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Topic Title: Will the damage ever be undone Topic Summary: Created On: 04/19/2017 04:56 AM |
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04/19/2017 07:17 AM
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No one can or should be forced to take them down living or owning property on on public roads. What people rightly object to is having them on government property. Maybe that's traditional, but given our modern socieity of many religions it is an establishment of religion. If a small town had giant menorah on their city hall lawn that might not go over so well either.
What self rightgeos assholes you guys must be to think that that the local town hall shouldn't have a nativity scene on their government grounds. Seriously, what is wrong with you to think thats a bad thing? If the populace of your town is primary Christian, why should they bend to your religion of Atheism. Yes, Atheism is a relgion. You having faith that a God does not exist is no different than someone having faith that one does. In the end, both don't really know. BTW - Your panties must really get in a bunch during the annaul lighting of the Whitehouse Christmas Tree |
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04/19/2017 08:10 AM
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Can't have freedom of religion without freedom from government religion. That is why there is an establishment clause in amendment 1 to the constitution. Before you say "Congress shall make no law..." and "city council is not Congress". Equal protection under the law secured by later amendment to the constitution means that the Bill of Rights restricts the town council right along with the feds. Nativity scenes are put on the courthouse lawns for a very declarative purpose and that generally trips over establishment prohibition no different from Roy Moore putting a huge 10C monument in the Alabama Courthouse rotunda. I'm sure the town has ample lawns and church fronts where a nativity can be displayed.
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04/19/2017 10:39 AM
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Maybe if opiodx and the violent racist doltblight types who spout a perverted view of religiosity they try to claim as christian, (or any other form of religiosity)
studied the history of the early united states, they might understand why the brilliant statesmen (aka founding fathers) who formulated our form of government did what they did. Which brand of "christianity" are the dumshit religious right nazis referring to? Some states were catholic. Some were some form of "protestant". But, which form of catholic: reformist, orthodox, eastern orthodox, roman? Irish, british? How about protestants: puritan, calvinists, baptists, southern baptists, quaker, amish, methodists, episcopalian, lutheran. And invariably some ultrafundamentalist radical versions of all them. Wars and battles were fought between neighboring states over this. (all over europe!) God help you if you crossed the wrong county line in early america. Lynchings, burnings, murders were quite common. Each faction thought they, and they alone, had the lord's true answer. So. trying to figure how to deal with this god forsaken mess and its corrupting influences already ahold of america: The founders came up with the utterly brilliant doctrine of separation of church and state. Period ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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04/19/2017 10:48 AM
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Can't have freedom of religion without freedom from government religion.
Complete utter BS. Its freedom from religion that you, miker, and the rest of the Aethists cry for. Your religion (or lack thereof) does not make it OK to prevent others from celebrating theirs. Seperation of Church and State was meant to keep the State from creating/enforcing laws based on religion. If the State did, it would have direct impact on your life, and force you to do things you do not believe. That is completely different than a local goverment, made up of local people, from celebrating/displaying religous items. That does not impact your life, or force you to do anything. Totally different. If the local populace was Muslim, and their City Hall, which consisted of mostly Muslims wanted to display a Muslim symbol during a Muslim Holiday. I don't care. The irony is, either would most of you. Lets be real here, you only care if its a Christian symbol. Bunch of Christian-phobes....... |
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04/19/2017 11:00 AM
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Complete utter BS. Its freedom from religion that you, miker, and the rest of the Aethists cry for. Your religion (or lack thereof) does not make it OK to prevent others from celebrating theirs. So when a government allows a Christian nativity scene, but does not allow another religion to display there's what exactly is that then? That is the problem with people like you and the infection that has spread across this country through indoctrination. You think YOUR belief is the only one that matters. It is ignorant, arrogant, and narcissistic. I don't give a crap what religion you celebrate. I don't give a crap about what you put in your yard to celebrate it. What I do care about it one religious belief being given preferential treatment over other religious beliefs by the government because it goes against everything this country was founded upon. Asking for all religious view to be treated equally is not preventing you from celebrating yours. Asking that your religious beliefs not take away from someone else's right to celebrate theirs is not either. In God We Trust - On currency and license plates. It does not belong there. One nation under God - This does not belong on the pledge either and wasn't originally there to begin with. Prayer in public school? - Absofuckinglutely not. How about we have your children pray to Allah? Would you like that? Didn't think so. |
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04/19/2017 11:24 AM
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That is the problem with people like you and the infection that has spread across this country through indoctrination. You think YOUR belief is the only one that matters. It is ignorant, arrogant, and narcissistic. I don't give a crap what religion you celebrate. LOL, where have I ever said that mine is the only one that matters? You certainly are on record saying yours is the only one that does. The very panty waddage caused by goverments displaying anything Christmas related is you being arrogant thinking only your faith should be honored.
I don't give a crap about what you put in your yard to celebrate it. What I do care about it one religious belief being given preferential treatment over other religious beliefs by the government because it goes against everything this country was founded upon. Are you saying we should do away with Christmas? Government should not close on this holiday? Asking for all religious view to be treated equally is not preventing you from celebrating yours. Asking that your religious beliefs not take away from someone else's right to celebrate theirs is not either. In God We Trust - On currency and license plates. It does not belong there. One nation under God - This does not belong on the pledge either and wasn't originally there to begin with. Prayer in public school? - Absofuckinglutely not. How about we have your children pray to Allah? Would you like that? Didn't think so. Again, I don't give a fuck. If you're a Christian, you should be allowed to pray in school. If you are Muslim..ditto. But its the likes of you, and your arrogance/self rightesnouse because you belive in nothing, that prevents either. |
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04/19/2017 12:24 PM
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Happened back home when I was kid. The Jews got "waddage". Eventually the city let them install a Menora.
Of course people can pray in school. Government school can't make the kids pray though.
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04/19/2017 11:24 AM
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edit: double post
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04/19/2017 11:32 AM
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Complete utter BS. Its freedom from religion that you, miker, and the rest of the Aethists cry for. Freedom from government religion. The government part is key. The freedom to practice religion enshrined as a right in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution does not extend to the government. People can celebrate their religion just fine without defacto establishment.
I don't believe you. You people don't even want to allow Muslims to practice religion on private property. I refer you to Murfreesboro Tennessee for one of many examples.
Bunch of Christian-phobes.......
Find us one real example to demonstrate the point.
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