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Topic Title: Will the damage ever be undone
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Created On: 04/19/2017 04:56 AM
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 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 04:56 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 05:00 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/19/2017 05:08 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 05:14 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 05:17 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 05:52 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 06:01 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 06:22 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - surferclimber - 04/22/2017 09:04 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 06:33 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 06:38 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 06:59 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 06:34 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 06:48 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:02 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 07:58 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:00 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 07:04 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:08 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 07:17 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 08:10 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - nukeh2o - 04/19/2017 10:39 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 10:48 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 11:00 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 11:24 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 12:24 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 11:24 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 11:32 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 07:09 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 07:04 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:15 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:17 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:21 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/19/2017 07:22 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:23 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 07:25 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:26 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:32 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 07:42 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 10:32 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 11:42 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 12:18 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 08:01 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 10:44 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 11:01 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 11:04 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 12:08 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 10:49 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 10:59 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 11:13 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 11:48 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 12:33 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 12:35 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 11:48 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 12:04 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 12:12 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 12:19 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 12:36 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 12:50 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - RegularJoe - 04/19/2017 01:31 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 05:54 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 12:45 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 12:53 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/19/2017 01:17 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - Cole - 04/19/2017 08:57 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 01:20 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 02:17 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - scombrid - 04/19/2017 05:52 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 01:25 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 01:33 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 01:36 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 02:34 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/19/2017 04:19 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 02:19 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - RegularJoe - 04/19/2017 07:15 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/19/2017 07:30 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/20/2017 05:17 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/19/2017 08:24 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 03:50 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 05:39 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/20/2017 06:59 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 05:46 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/20/2017 06:08 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/20/2017 07:07 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 07:26 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 07:35 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - RegularJoe - 04/20/2017 08:09 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - SuperTeeBird - 04/20/2017 10:28 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - obx2 - 04/20/2017 07:03 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 07:21 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 07:08 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 07:41 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 08:29 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 08:31 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - RegularJoe - 04/20/2017 08:35 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 08:37 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 09:23 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 09:43 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 11:55 AM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 12:31 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 12:54 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/20/2017 01:27 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - WG - 04/20/2017 01:36 PM  
 Will the damage ever be undone   - miker - 04/23/2017 01:43 AM  
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 04/20/2017 07:26 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: obx2

We are all hypocrites. We are humans with inherent evil. That is why socialism will never work (but I digress)



Without any spirituality/faith, there is nothing to combat that evil.





The concept of original sin is Abrahamic is nature. I have to ask why you are so afraid to proudly state your beliefs. Let me guess, it is easier for you to argue behind a veil of secrecy?

Anyways, the concept of original sin has been completely invalidated by science. You might as well tell me the earth is 6000 years old while you are at it.

 04/20/2017 07:35 AM
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miker

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Wow, you really haven't been paying attention to anything I've written pertaining to this subject. My religion? I don't have a religion. I just know there is a God of some sort out there and we are not meant to comprehend him/her/them. Your arguments/responses are based of a preconcieved, notion of me. No where have I said I'm a Christian, much less even mentioned Jesus. I'm sorry that you're so deep down the rabbit hole of your prejudice that its preventing you from opening your mind and actualy listening/reading/comprehending what I am saying enough to have an honest discussion. You falsely equate I as a Christian, just because I spoke up on this topic.


I may have falsely equated you as a follower of an Abrahamic religion (there are many) but that is only because you represented yourself as such. You did so again even after responding to my posts with this quote above by expressing your belief in original sin.

Note, I didn't mention Jesus in that wall of text you quoted either, so I not sure why you brought him back into the conversation other than you making the incorrect assumption that I am assuming you were Christian. You very obviously express some Christian values and express some Abrahamic based beliefs. Whether or not you identify with any religion or not is irrelevant to my comments and that is what you fail to see in entirety.

I don't care what your beliefs are. What I do care about is a specific set of religious beliefs giving preferential treatments through state sponsorship. What I do care about is religious ideology influencing government policy in a negative way.
 04/20/2017 08:09 AM
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RegularJoe

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Originally posted by: miker
the concept of original sin has been completely invalidated by science.


I learned long ago that participation in, or even reading threads like this is a pointless, futile waste of otherwise productive time.

But just to pick nits, statements like that quoted above strike me as overstepping their bounds.

If "science" has no data point to represent a "God/god/deity" as an action-causing entity, and "sin" is generally referred to as something that violates the law of said supreme deity, then... is the concept of sin even germane to science?

Granted, you didn't say, "completely disproven," or "completely proven false," but you also could have said, "declared irrelevant to physical science" or something along those lines.

Just wondering if you wanted to clarify, defend, or cite references for the original statement.
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