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Topic Title: Japanese limestone neoprene wetsuits?? Topic Summary: And a couple opinions of past suits Created On: 10/08/2019 07:16 AM |
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10/08/2019 07:16 AM
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A lot of these newer wetsuits are labeled as having limestone neoprene or Japanese neoprene - how is the material in comparison to the standard neoprene? Less comfortable / lighter?
Any other material/ brand recommendations ? Haven't bought a suit in a couple years so I'm not up on all the tech. Main concern is comfort/stretch. I'll say that the rip curl E4 from a few years ago was super warm for a 3/2, but felt really tight in the shoulders (rough for paddling). Had a Hurley 3/2 about 5 years ago and it was ultra comfy, nice and stretchy, but pretty cold. Wind cut right through it. It was their basic $250 model. Also had a huuuge waist for a large. Must have been 36" - all kinds of slack in the belly. While I'm at it - O'Neils current base model top (the $50-60 ones) are terrible in every way. Bought one last December. Harsh to touch, stiff. I actually returned it for a rip curl in the same price range and it was great. Edited: 10/08/2019 at 07:17 AM by J20 |
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10/08/2019 07:22 AM
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I got an O'neill hyperfreak last year and its basically like being naked with a jockstrap on.
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10/08/2019 09:03 AM
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Asking for a friend - what does it feel like if you are a woman?
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10/08/2019 09:19 AM
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10/08/2019 06:38 PM
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The newer neoprene formulas have come a long way.
My favorite suits at the moment are from hyperflex. Parent company is henderson scuba, one of americas oldest makers. They have a great product size range, great prices. Super friggin stretchy. Only thing close is oneill.... but: half the price ------------------------- spindrift |
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10/09/2019 05:56 AM
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From a friend: like you just ran into trump.
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10/09/2019 07:33 PM
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Edited: 10/09/2019 at 10:11 PM by ww |
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10/10/2019 05:03 AM
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Two things,
1) I keep coming back to Rip Curl and yes, they're tight if you go by the sizing chart. I buy one size larger, a Large Short even though I'd be a Medium on the chart. 2) I'm fascinated by the "limestone neoprene": CaCO3 to CaO via high temp oxidation. CaO + 3C -> CaC2 + CO, then use the carbide (CaC2) to make acetylene, dimerize and halogenated to make the chloroprene for neoprene. Ya, but where do the 3Cs come from? The only reference I see is that they typically come from petroleum coke. In other words, it's a petroleum hydrocarbon byproduct wetsuit, not a limestone one (?) Doesn't sound nearly as attractive. And then again, I could be wrong... (curse the lack of line breaks) ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway Edited: 10/10/2019 at 05:08 AM by 2nd Light Forums Moderator |
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10/10/2019 05:10 AM
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^Dang show off! Thanks!
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10/10/2019 05:14 AM
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I don't know why I can and some can't but at least it looks better. |
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10/10/2019 05:51 AM
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The Rip Curl E Bombs always feel a bit tight at first but they always break and become much more soft by the end of the season for me.
Rip Curl and Xcel make the best off the rack neoprene imo. Theres always the boutique ones but I'm not paying $600 for a suit lol
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10/10/2019 05:53 AM
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Does tom still use an old 386 machine?
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10/10/2019 06:14 AM
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8086 with dual floppies bitches! Hack that!
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10/11/2019 11:32 AM
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The japanese limestone based neoprene has been used in freediving suits for years. But they are also a little different with fit. you need to lube yourself up to get in them.
any one seen these yet
https://www.quiksilver.com/men-highline-pro-1mm-wetsuit/?npk=356843144&heid=5e93049dba04a65a0f5df2c314843361d8db8a79be82119e3db5f700a3d7c1a2&camp=em_qs_us-en_e_neolane_193-highline-pro-wetsuit_-_all_wetsuits_-_broadcast_10032019&utm_source=adobe_campaign&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=193-highline-pro-wetsuit&bxid=356843144
Edited: 10/11/2019 at 11:38 AM by rjbeavis |
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10/13/2019 04:34 PM
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$700 for a suit that is 1mm thick but equal to a 3mm with more flex . Good for water temps 56 to 64 , but seems to have limited size selections available
Edited: 10/13/2019 at 06:11 PM by Kimo63 |
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10/13/2019 06:46 PM
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The Highline Pro website looks overwhelmed by visitors and looks close to a sellout.
Only a bit more expensive than Hurley's made-in-Japan 3mm wettie that supposedly can cover 4mm territory.
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10/14/2019 02:22 AM
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10/14/2019 03:25 AM
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ugh, wetsuits
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10/09/2020 05:22 AM
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ugh, wetsuits ------------------------- |
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10/14/2019 12:29 PM
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My first wetsuit was a navy bell helmet suit with hot water ports. Wasn't conducive for flotation. Then I got a Bailey suit with, what seemed like, shag carpeting inside the legs. During that time, we had access to Barrier Island NC property while the condos were being built. The first building erected was the pool/hot tub. We'd surf the break over the dune, then run back and jump into the hot tub to get out of our gear. One day, I stood up and my legs swelled out 5 times the size, due to the hot water. My buddy's legs blew out. Apparently, the "carpet" was what kept mine from doing the same. We got to use that for 2 years.
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10/22/2019 01:55 PM
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I just decided to splurge on a custom 7till8 Japanese limestone wetsuit. Will probably be a month before I get it but I'll share my experience and thoughts.
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10/22/2019 04:22 PM
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I was in San Diego last week and caught a deal at Ocean Beach. A "last year's" O'Neil Hyperfreak 4/3+ which I needed for a bucket trip to NZ/Australia next March.....Fits snug but stretchy as hell. I need to tie off in the pool and paddle......
Per the website O'Neill's exclusive Technobutter 3x pre-stretched neoprene with featherlight ENVY foam rubber core.. Chest/Lower Body: Technobutter 3. Back/Arms/Shoulders: Technobutter 3X. External Key Pocket with Loop. I bought it for the external key pocket. Edited: 10/22/2019 at 04:25 PM by RocketSurf |
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10/23/2019 01:51 PM
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I'll stick with my Japanese Squeeze. Surf all day, polka all night, everything is alright.
Japanese Squeeze ------------------------- Surf all day, polka all night, everything is alright. Edited: 10/23/2019 at 01:53 PM by vwsurf |
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10/08/2020 05:25 PM
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It's that time of the year again . Who is going Japanese this year ? I'm thinking about one of the cheaper Vissla suits , like the 3/2 chest zip
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10/09/2020 05:15 AM
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Hyperflex is selling its rather expensive Greenprene, which might be mostly of interest to those who develop rashes from neoprene. I bought a 3/2 out of curiosity, found I froze in 60ยบ water last year. Oversensitive Floriidian.
Edited: 10/09/2020 at 05:25 AM by ww |
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10/09/2020 10:12 AM
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as long as you dont defecate in them.....or do!
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10/09/2020 10:40 PM
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