Well, we've all seen the following video. But now, there is the official executive summary below the video. Total strangeness for sure!



UFO EXECUTIVE REPORT

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Pretty freaky.

Plenty of naysayers, but the jet pilot who was one of the few with actual eyeballs on it seems convinced it was a physical craft.. and not one of ours.

The video is total legit.

Now, if the "Executive report" is "real", then this is a fairly big step towards "disclosure".

Not sure about it all, at all. But, Mrs. Dingpatch has said some very disturbing things about such and, she really has "been there" and seen "it".

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https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-encounter-with-unknown-object.t9333/

 

 

 

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https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz-tic-tac-ufo-flir-footage.t9190/

 

 

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'Supersonic Tic Tac' UFO stalked US aircraft carrier for days, Pentagon report reveals
By Jacob Dirbhuber | The Sun

A supersonic UFO shaped like a Tic-Tac stalked a U.S. aircraft carrier for days before vanishing into thin air, according to a bombshell Pentagon report.

The object, which could reportedly hover in midair and make itself invisible, bamboozled U.S. Navy fighter pilots during a training exercise in the Pacific Ocean.

The leaked report, obtained by Las Vegas's KLAS tv station, tells how the USS Princeton, a Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser, had multiple radar contacts with what it dubbed a Anomalous Aerial Vehicle (AAV).

In November 2004, the ship's ultra-advanced AN/SPY-1 multifunctional phased-array radar caught the object hovering at 60,000 feet before nosediving to the ocean surface in a matter of seconds.

It then sped off so rapidly that crew members thought it was a ballistic missile.

It appeared again two days later, and a pair of high-tech F-18 jets were scrambled to intercept it, but pilots reported that the object had turned itself invisible.

It could still be detected as it was triggering a a circular disturbance in the water "about 50 to 100 meters in diameter."

The craft was described as "solid white, smooth, with no edges... uniformly colored with no nacelles, pylons or wings", and looked like "an elongated egg or Tic Tac," according to one of the pilots.

Days later, a second jet spotted the same disturbance - and this time saw the UFO hovering above it "like a Harrier [jump jet]".

When the two pilots returned to the ship, crewmates put on tin-foil hats to greet them and asked eager questions about their "UFO flight."

The report adds that the USS Louisville nuclear attack submarine was operating in the area but reported no disturbance.

An E-2C Hawkeye surveillance plane managed to detect the object, but was unable to lock on, suggesting that it was able to dodge radar.

It adds that the craft matches "no known aircraft or air vehicle currently in the inventory of the United States or any foreign nation."

This story originally appeared in The Sun.

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Above article found here:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/

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Reads like a ghost in the machine. "Turned itself invisible" means they didn't really have eyes on it at any point.

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These guys were on Tucker Carlson the other night with footage of "unexplained orbs". The orbs were illumination flares over BT-11 and BT-09 at the mouth of the Neuse River. Not a great deal of credibility if they act like Northrup Grumman flare over a know bombing target are mysterious. They are pulling everybody's legs. Fravor admitted as much on Joe Rogan's show.

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Well, the "Neuse River" stuff is not associated with the "Nimitz Encounter" video and testimonies.

The AN/SPY-1 system does not suffer from "parallax".

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These folks aren't terribly discerning if they are touting the "orbs off the coast of North Carolina" as UFOs.

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https://www.metabunk.org/fravors-hypersonic-ufo-observation-parallax-illusion-comparing-accounts.t10941/ I don't trust these witness accounts or their interpretation of the data

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You have a blip on the radar that nobody ever really saw. You also have the guys that were scrambled to intercept the blip and when they returned to the ship they were greeted by giggling ship mates in tinfoil hats. There's some serious leg pulling going on.

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UFO Promoters Using Debunked Images in their Promotions

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Discovery Channel Running a Hoax

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At this point you are going to have to take me up in the ship or produce a corpse.

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The old, original Metabunk stuff did seem to be reasonable but, , , , It has now been established that what is in the Navy videos is officially real; as witnessed by the pilots and the radar.

There has been a major shift in all of this over the past year. "UFO" is now "UAP" (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and, as such, UAPs do exist. We have no idea what they are but, the old "Venus" and "swamp gas" explanations are no longer valid. High ranking folks will now say that UAPs are real. Top Secret cleared PhDs have said that what ever they are, they are real.

I would only assume that "they" are actual aliens but, at this point that is only a "feeling". Mrs Dingpatch did say very clearly that she had ", , , , been in THAT room, I have been in the Weirdo Room at Wright-Pat, , , ,". (WTF would she call a weirdo?)!




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Edited: 01/06/2020 at 05:36 AM by dingpatch

Very good question, she did marry you, right? JUST KIDDING DING! We love ya dude! Post on!

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I have seen the saucers. They are no joke.

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A "28,000" feet drop in .78 seconds roughs out to 24,475 MPH!!!!

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Works out to parallax driven illusion.

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Yeah, it's horsecrap, just like 'Squatch, Nessie and deep state.

Nearly everyone on this planet has a video camera now. What have we discovered? Ghosts, aliens, miracles, ESP, auras?

We have discovered that our pets are hilarious and that our law enforcement is in need of some reforms.

Edited: 10/14/2019 at 01:33 PM by TeeBirdForever

Have you seen the saucers?


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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Well, but, , , , we are losing sight of the simple fact that the "Tic Tac" in the "Gimbal" video was a real object that showed on some of the world's most advanced radar systems, and also had "eyes on" by highly trained naval personnel. The "Gimbal" video that we have is a compressed and trimmed short version (back in 2004, such video and other digital things were sized in KB, not todays MB and GB. Original, shipboard personnel, report that they saw the longer (about 15 minute?) high resolution version and that the "object" was clear-as-a-bell.

Opinion: Here's a believable explanation of those UFO videos released by the Navy

Published: Oct 15, 2019 12:42 a.m. ET

Jurica Dujmovi? says a military patent could explain mysterious objects caught on video by a jet-fighter pilot

Cue "The X-Files" music and put on your tinfoil hats. We're going for a ride.

Last month the U.S. Navy confirmed that three videos of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) taken by airplane pilots a few years ago are indeed authentic. (Notice we're not saying "unidentified flying object," or UFO.) This means the videos went through the U.S. military, so it can be assumed they have not been computer-generated or altered.

Three clips dubbed "FLIR1," "Gimbal" and "Go Fast" show two encounters between Navy aircraft and UAP. The object was tracked by the aircraft's Raytheon RTN, +0.33% AN/ASQ-228 Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pod, and in all three videos, it performed maneuvers that cannot be executed using current aviation technology.

Commander David Fravor, who flew one of the fighters in the video ("Gimbal"), describes the object as "Tic Tac"-shaped, 40-feet long, with no wings, exhaust or discernible propulsion. After some maneuvering, the object ended up hovering above the water. Moments later, it rapidly ascended to 12,000 feet and finally accelerated away at a speed the commander suggested was "well above supersonic."

Unsustainable G-forces
When asked if a human pilot could survive such an acceleration in a modern aircraft, Fravor responded with a resounding "no." Acceleration of that magnitude would wreak havoc on the human body: broken bones, shifting of organs, burst blood vessels and even death would occur as the body was crushed with G-forces it could not withstand.

But let's consider for a second that the mysterious object in question was manned by a human pilot. In that case, the vehicle would have to be equipped with the technology capable of reducing the inertial mass of the object by generating gravity waves to reduce G-forces during acceleration.

Navy patent
Perhaps this could be achieved if the outer shell of the craft were turned into a cavity wall filled with gas, which would vibrate thanks to microwave emitters. This description was taken from a patent the U.S. Navy applied for in 2016, which says such a peculiar craft could move with great ease through air, space or water by being enclosed in a vacuum plasma bubble or sheath.

That could be the UAP that Fravor saw during his documented flight. Gravity manipulating tech at play could explain how the craft was able to effortlessly perform certain maneuvers such as suddenly turning sideways without losing altitude (aka knife-edge flight) in the FLIR1 video, or rapidly changing in-flight direction without visible inertia.

While the patent for the mysterious craft was approved last year, there is no indication that it was built or tested. Then again, it's hard to imagine that a military aircraft equipped with this kind of technology would get any publicity.

Accidental release
If it indeed was this craft in the video, it was built and tested prior to the patent application. However, it could be that the cat got out of the bag. That could be why the Navy reluctantly acknowledged the authenticity of the footage, while also outlining that it wasn't cleared for public release.


So far, the pieces of the puzzle seem to be falling into place. Then again, at about the 1:17 mark in the video above, one pilot says: "There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the ASA." ASA is most likely AESA, the APG-79 radar's "search while track" feature that enables it to follow multiple targets without degradation to its search capability. Having one experimental craft exposed during a mission is a likely event, but what about a whole fleet?

Two explanations
We have two possibilities: First, there was more than one mysterious aircraft at the location, but it's unlikely any of them was our patented vehicle.

Another explanation could be that because of the vacuum sheath or another type of stealth technology surrounding the UAP, radar erroneously reported multiple bogies, where in fact there was only one.

That would also explain why the pilot had a hard time locking on to the target in "FLIR1" and "Go Fast" videos. The speed must have played a role as well. Clinicians have a saying: Common things are common. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

So what do you think is more likely? A Navy experimental aircraft, inadvertently uncovered by pilots, or an alien UFO? My bet is on the latest Navy patent, but I'm open to suggestions. Please share them in the comment section below. You can take your tinfoil hat off now.

Jurica Dujmovic is a MarketWatch columnist.

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Haha. I still side with Scombrid.

We have a mountain of evidence for evolution yet millions don't believe it. We have no solid evidence for aliens and yet millions believe that.

Humans are clearly susceptible to crazy ideas. We have a weakness for myths. That was useful until the enlightenment when it became a liability.

This just proves that Ding watches some whacked out stuff.

Mathematically speaking, there has to be other life in the universe, but traveling a billion light years to torment farmers and other rural humans? Prolly not.

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I was right.

There must be, yes.

Here's a listing of the problems with us finding out anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Ok, Ok, so let's just skip all of the talk of "aliens". But, still, there is Mrs Dingpatch's statement about being in the "weirdo room". She did in fact work for senior General officers at Langley and it was serious enough that she made the call, under orders, to have people terminated for simply revealing that the "unit" existed (by doing so, the offenders showed that they were immediate threats to Critical National Security.)

But, the facts remains that the objects in the Navy videos are real and actual and, at that, they are true Unidentified Arial Phenomena. The "Metabunk" analysis is now moot and was from a time when there were still those who said that the videos were fake. I know that searching some of the sources may be rather distasteful for some of you but, you will find recent interviews with senior government officials who verify the reality of the videos.

There is still a large cadre of very religious individuals who will do anything they can to discount any/all of this.

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There is a large cadre of individuals with scientific training who are interested in the results of experiments on quantum mechanics and gravity waves. That has produced results.

DNA tests on bigfoot hair have not.

My dad was a chemist for the army. In '61 he was transferred to Germany. He had a "Cosmic Clearance" while serving. There was an Ancient Aliens about a general who was sent to Germany around that time to review Nazi files of UFOs. He had a "Cosmic Clearance". When my sis and I asked him, in the past, if they were real, he'd just stare at us. He's 95 and in hospice. I told him his granddaughter wanted to know if UFOs are real, and just check the yes or no box on a piece of paper, not to be opened until he's gone. He did it and we'll see. Hopefully not for a while.

Just remember: SILVER! foil hats everyone.
Not tin or aluminum!
Soros has an army of aliens hiding behind the moon, waiting for their orders. To join an army of antifas posing as homeless folks! To take over merica!
Btw: Oakley actually has a line of tin foil lined hats......lol
duhh....

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^Can't say I disagree, silver has excellent conductivity, but not everybody is born with a silver hat on their head. I think copper is the working man's silver, as far as hats go. Aluminum is fine in a pinch, maybe silver for really dressy occasions, but copper, now that makes a statement. Anybody tried oxygen free copper? I can't say that I can tell the difference...

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My wife and I saw one the other day in our car. Check it out...

Ok, OK, keep having your fun at the expense of reality, , , , ,

But, to keep your concentration on aliens, , , , this is the scene from the Roswell movie where Mrs. Dingpatch told me that she had been there; she had been in the Weirdo Room at Wright Patterson AFB. She never said another word about it and I never asked her about it. It is very disturbing to think about, , , ,!



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The "Weirdo Room" .... hate to admit it, but I've seen that ......






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This clip totally makes me believe you. Very disturbing indeed.

Sorry boys, but I am not making this up. She never actually said that she saw an alien but, otherwise, as has been asked; WTF is a "weirdo"????

Mrs. Dingpatch really did work for Those Who Do Not Exist. I will not tolerate your BS about her. She was a true American Warrior. Were you ever in combat in Laos? I'm doing my best to get all of this "out of my system".

She died of PTSD induced alcoholism because of all the nasty shit she did and saw. We had dinner with one of her MIB Generals when he retired and moved here. She asked him how he "lived with it". The retired Bird Colonel that was with us said he would answer for the General: "Jan, we all took The Oath, we were given our orders, we ran the flag up the pole, and completed our missions. That's how we live with it, every day".

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Edited: 01/09/2020 at 02:10 PM by dingpatch

Aw comeon Ding, nobody and I mean nobody is disrespecting the Mrs. (Except, perhaps, in her choice of a Mr. (KIDDING! ONLY KIDDING!!!)). I'm in the camp that suggests that the Universe seems to be about 15B years old. The Earth is about 5B years old. Our civilization is only a couple thousand years old. So, it seems like there's been plenty of time gone by to develop some super-advanced-galactic-traveling civilizations. We're looking all around us in the sky but not seeing anybody. With all that time, shouldn't somebody be where we're looking; or, in the words of Fermi, "Where is everyone?".

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How is this for a coincidence? Last night I downloaded a star app to learn about some of the stars I see at night. These apps are fantastic. But, i then was googling and wiki binging on constellations and such and found the Drake Equation and was reading about that. Then, I said enough and went to binge watch the amazon series 'The Expanse'. And on that show withing a half hour after reading about the drake equation, it was mentioned and explained in the show. I think it was Season two episode 9. I was like what? They are speaking to me...where is my tin foil hat!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

It's the Proto-molecule speaking to you Dave.

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Hmm, what should I use this double post for?

Oh, I know! Aliens made me do it!

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Copper FTW.

Top it with a microphonic dual triode.

Slimy- if you open that paper, PM me the result, I'm curious to know


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When America was "great"

"My dad was a 'chemist' with a 'cosmic' clearance".

HAP, Ya, ya, let's have a lot of fun with it.

Just as long as you are not simply showing Ignorant Naivety. I know that certain things are very hard for certain people to accept but, as such, this world is very much more complex than many can imagine. Mrs. Dingpatch was in fact "cleared" above the POTUS. She was point blank told by a General at Langley; ", , , , , the President is a civilian, he HAS NOT been cleared". I've tried to make this clear before, but again: her clearance level was, as the conspiracy theorists would claim, was "MAJESTIC / D-5".

For example: A few years back, Nel and I were at a local eating establishment having some BBQ and drinks at the bar. A gentleman came in and sat next to Nel. They struck up a conversation about this-and-that. He had just retired at the rank of Bird Colonel from the Air Force. He had been a Special Forces pilot flying "special" C-130s out of Eglin AFB and had been very highly "cleared". Nel said something about her previously having had a "XYZ123" (above) Top Secret clearance. He took issue with that, saying that he had never heard of such a thing. He had flown Delta and SEAL Teams on Super Top Secret missions and he was cleared "to the top". Well Nel, in her special way, and she was not trying to dis the guy, basically told him that he had only been an expendable tactical asset and that, as such, he was only cleared for what he needed to know. He was Very Upset and got up and moved to another section of the restaurant!

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Edited: 01/13/2020 at 04:51 AM by dingpatch

Ding, you bash religion on here every day and call it nonsense. Now you are bashing me for being skeptical of this nonsense and taking offense to it. No proof has been given. So give it a break and stop taking it so seriously.... It's all BS. You know it.



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Sorry, but none of thos is BS, it caused Nel to drink herself to death.

The BIG BOSS Takes a Liking to Nel

First, I need to preface this for you to separate the "before and after" of the Boss's involvement.

Twenty-five years ago I worked at a local defense contractor as a buyer. I became friends with one of the electronic techs, we will name him "Joe". He was a retired Air Force "lifer" with 20-plus years of service. One day we were talking about this-and-that and I mentioned that Nel had been in the Air Force (AF) at Patrick and that she had been the first woman assigned to "Them". Joe got a look on his face and asked "THEM ?". Yes. He uttered an expletive. He went on to say that he had been assigned to Patrick and the Cape many times during his career and that he had had a Crypto Clearance. He said that as far as he knew he had just about the highest clearance around those parts, being that he maintained and repaired all of the "crypto" kind of equipment and such. He said that he had thought that he had "seen it all" at the Cape and Patrick. But, one day he got an odd request that he should show up at a certain building with his gear for a briefing! He knew where it was at and otherwise knew that there was nothing there to "fix". He gets there and is taken into a room that had AF personnel, men in Dark Suits and armed guards! They sit him down and begin "briefing" him about where they are going to take him and what needs fixing. He thought that all of this was quite odd, and what really set it all off was when one of the AF types told him in very pain language; "Do Not Avert Your Eyes"! What? He was pretty sure that he was cleared for anything around but, he had never been told to not avert his eyes! Heck, he had had less hassle going down into nuke ICBM silos!

So, they put him into the middle of the rear seat of a car, with an armed guard seated on each side, and off they go. They get to the location and he is somewhat surprised because it is a well-known building and, as such, is pretty "public". He'd been in it to fix all sorts of various equipment and really could not understand what all the "security" was about. He did not know that "Them" were located there. They take him in past the normal "authorized only" entrance, then past a "you really better know what you're doing here" door, and then they get to a door that has its own armed personnel and signage that is pretty much "skull and crossbones", otherwise known as "Shoot To Kill". The one guy is still telling him to not avert his eyes! It's starting to sink in and then he realizes that the two armed guards that are with them, one on each side of him, have their holsters unbuttoned and their hands are on their grips!!! They are not there to protect him, they are there to protect against him! He said that he had never been so scared in his life. They get into the vault and everything is covered in black cloth, all except the chairs. The one guy unbuttons a bit of the black canvas and says "this is what you are to repair, and Do Not Avert Your Eyes"! When everything is fixed they leave and return to the original "briefing" building where he is debriefed with all of the standard "you were never there", 'we were never here", etc, just like in the movies. He signs a new security oath and he's free to go.

Well, Nel worked in that vault. She typed like a bandit on her IBM Selectric typewriter and at the end of the day, , , , the platens and print balls were removed and put into a double lock safe that was locked by two Officers with two separate keys. The ribbons were removed and incinerated under witness of an Officer and an armed guard! Every day. Just business as usual in the vault, even though it was already a "shoot to kill" security zone.

So, those are examples of the "normal" security sphincter factors involved. Then the General got involved in Nel's life.

The unit had a Commanding General, although he was "never there" and otherwise I assume most people in the unit did not know him. Unit locations had a O-5 or O-6 in command. When he was there he was in a civilian "suit and tie" and usually had a defense contractor ID. His regular office was at a place called "Langley". For the most part, Nel never wore a uniform on base and also had a "fake" defense contractor ID.

So, anyway, I have to assume that the General was aware of the "discomfort" that a woman had caused in the unit and he decided to meet Nel. It was just two civilian contractors having a discussion. It came to be that the General decided that he could use someone with Nel's qualifications and clearance. So, she more-or-less became his "administrative assistant" when he was local and/or otherwise at Langley when he needed her to be there. This was all fine-and-dandy but, Nel's clearances needed to be greatly upgraded so that she was cleared for everything on the General's desk! The General was involved in things that the local commanders had no knowledge of. This started Nel's journey into the Black. She ended up traveling to all sorts of places and doing all sorts of things, most of which never happened and otherwise never existed.

I'll leave this chapter with this: Early on in her experience at (I assume) Langley "something" of worldly importance happened or was about to happen, or what-ever. Nel was pretty concerned and asked the General if the President knew and/or what the President was going to do or say about it. Then, right out of the movies (not sure of the exact words said), , , , "Get in here. Close the door. Sit down. I'm only going to say this once and I never want to hear another word about it! The President is a civilian, he Has Not Been Cleared".!!!!! Nel said that that was the moment she really understood what she was involved in.

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We all gotta believe in something, I guess...

No need for speculation anymore folks! They's aliens (and fungus) among us!
They're already here! I personally sat next to one in a country bar other night. For real: that orange colored dufus: alien.
Homeless: aliens, all of em. There's an entire fleet waiting to subjugate us, on soro's orders! Alex Jones has all the info you need to know.
We're all doomed....
Btw: I saw sasquatch riding a flying unicorn.
They were doing stunt aerobatics in formation with a squad of....wait for it....flying monkeys!
They'd love to come and meet us. They're afraid they'd blow our minds......etc.
Doubt if you dare. And at all costs, avert your eyes...

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It is hard for me to "suffer such fools" but, , , , for your edification, , , ,

Here is the flight suit they gave her to wear when they rushed her, and a Major, to SE Asia in the back seat of F-4s, non-stop. An "A" Team then took them into Laos. They were flown back to Patrick in F-4s the next day. Me: "What???". Her: "When the call came in I was the only person available that was cleared for the mission". This suit was the only thing they had in the Ready Room that fit her.



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Cool. Get back at us when you have proof of life.

That reminds me of the drug talks my dad used to give my brother and me. It was mostly about breaking the law. But when he got to the part about LSD, he'd say, "That stuff you get from the street isn't anuthing like WE make." They used to give pure LSD to grunts then send them out in the bush.

Will do!

I'll tell ya what's out of this world.

How can Ken Jennings and those other two guys remember all that stuff?????????

I say let's be astounded and fascinated by what's right in front of us.

Hey, I knew a few of the "answers"
I'm just not that quick !!
When they respond, I say to myself.... I knew that

Yes, truly amazing!
Who's going to win?? I'm thinking "Jeopardy James" Holzhauer.
He's a gambler, but Ken has been gambling more now too.








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Edited: 01/09/2020 at 08:32 AM by SunriseSurfer

I won't be forced to agree with anyone, but if they are no longer possessed of their legendary rhino skin it's time to chill out on the pushback.

So go we all.

Cheers, mate.

I'm not telling you what to do baby Yoda; only myself.

Carry on.

Sorry. I love sci-fi.

Everyone loves baby Yoda.

so the pentagon officially released the videos themselves. i would say that this makes them legit and not fakes

Edited: 04/29/2020 at 11:25 AM by RiddleMe

I was unaware that it had been claimed that the videos were fakes.

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The videos were and are still unremarkable and now we have metadata to analyze with an official release/declassification.

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Raptured Christians=Alien Abductions. There will be no science denying, when the science deniers are gone.

I'll believe this alien BS before I believe Christian BS.

HAP,

And please remember that Mrs. Dingpatch told me, while we were watching the "Roswell" movie on TV, , , , , when it came to the scene where Sec. Forrestal was at Wright Pat inspecting the debris and bodies for President Truman, , , , "I've been in that room, I've been in the "Weirdo Room" at Wright Pat, , ," !!! It was very upsetting to say the least. She never again said anything about it and I never asked.

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LOL I still don't believe this crap either though. Sorry. I'd love to see proof though one day. Heck, I'd love to see proof of paranormal life too. Right now, just fun to watch in movies. Well except christian movies. Those shits are lame AF.

HAP,

I sent you a PM

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Further analysis of the videos is more-or-less moot. They are real and official. The Navy and DoD have taken very good looks at them. And, regardless of any uniformed detractors, , , these objects had "eyes on" and were tracked with the best radars we have.

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I know they are real.

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Technical anomalies in gear are real.

Most reports
But not all
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of course ya'll have no pictures
or ya'll would have been removed
by aliens
i believe

I probably posted this before but it applies here. This was chasing fancy boats while taking pic. Didn't notice what was trailing it until years later.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1.../in/datetaken-public/

Then years later saw this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1.../in/datetaken-public/

Years later saw this taken before the others.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1.../in/datetaken-public/

Close up.

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The object in those videos also had eyes on from navy fighter pilots. It wasn't technical anomalies unless they were lying and doing so in a coordinated effort real time and coordinated with said anomalies.

Edited: 05/11/2020 at 07:27 AM by RiddleMe

Nope, was night time and they could not see anything but what was on the tracking system.

maybe everything i've seen about it is wrong then?

https://nymag.com/intelligence...ot-chad-underwood.html



clear blue sky seems to indicate day time.



what am i missing here?

also this from two of the pilots in a live science article:



also from commander fravor:



maybe i am wrong, but it sure seems from the pilot interviews i saw myself and what was reported in other interviews that they had eyes on too

Why would they be using infrared in the day? Also, not seeing anything regarding time at all. A day is 24 hours long. Blue skies happen at night as well.

Edited: 05/11/2020 at 09:55 AM by HAPDigital

umm ok

It's quite possible it was day but nothing states time. Was hoping a number on the camera images would show time. I cannot see it. I guess infrared can be used in the day with filtering to see heat sig but you have two different kinds of images within these Navy videos. One shows a black object and the other a white object. So what does that say about the heat signatures? See what I am saying? Nothing is consistent. Also we have no reference of time. What I see from 20+ years of camera experience, also operating aerial cameras, is sensor artifacts. If you get that it stays with the lens wherever it goes unless you change direction then it will fall out like a lens flare. But these videos show absolutely nothing that proves ET life, just some images with glitches.

Multiple ships tracked it on various system including AEGIS on a cruiser, the instrumentation on the jets did, and eyes on by the pilots. It was something, probably not alien, but something. Commander Fravor, has said in several interviews he had eyes on. Other pilots did as well. Just hard to imagine a congressional hearing along and the Navy + Pentagon making official statement if it was 'instrumentation error'. Add in there have been multiple incidents with different pilots, I just dont see it being a instrumentation and human visual error.

Then the big question is why in one infrared image recording the object is black and the other it is white. This means completely opposite heat signatures.

Dunno man, not an expert on the systems those jets use or what they specifically mean. I know the signature isn't 'just' heat. Emissivity, reflectivity, background, and sensor waveband all comes to play on the signature.

Edited: 05/11/2020 at 11:23 AM by RiddleMe

Joe Rogan is a show host with opinions. I do not bash his show nor his guests. I'll only bash them if I know it is BS. LOL Kinda the same way with Bill Maher, he has lots of good and lots of bad. But I do not bash people that post his stuff, maybe just the message. Anyway, I saw this and I thought it was interesting. I understand the pilots believe they saw something. But what they have seen is not enough for me to believe any of it because I cannot see it and what I have seen is things that commonly happen to cameras. It's like the Jesus in the toast or the weeping Mary statues. Sure I see it, but is there enough there to make me believe it is God or Aliens? No. There is enough there to make me think it is camera anomalies. Again, though, I watched this and I do not remember any of them saying they saw anything besides what was on the cameras. But this vid was a while ago.

no, it means its equal opportunity aliens

Ok it was definitely day time for Fravor's encounter. His training op started between before "noon or 1 o'clock' by his own words, watching (well listening) to one of his interviews now.

Yeah yeah I know Joe Rogan, but it doesn't change the pilots own words. 22 year vet, Squadron Leader, and Top Gun pilot.

Maybe, just odd that several different ships, one a cruiser with AEGIS, and instrumentation on several different aircraft all experienced failure at the same time. Even if the pilots never had visuals, it strikes me as completely odd. I am sure something explains that isn't attributable to little green men, but still.

Lights and reflections can do crazy things to cameras and the eyes.

Cameras and eyes sure. Camera's eyes and the instrumentation of the most advanced warship in the world at the time (and other ships). Those weren't cameras and eyes. We are talking about multiple simultaneous system failures plus the cameras and eyes. Not to mention the Navy and Pentagon believing it is real enough to warrant action. Then there was the congressional hearing on it too. There was something, not just light on a camera and the sun in a pilot's eyes. It can't be explained away that simply, too many other factors and systems involved.


Edited: 05/11/2020 at 12:45 PM by RiddleMe

They are cameras with sensors, nothing particularly special about them besides a hefty price tag.

And, yes, I know that all of this is way too hard to believe and otherwise understand for some here, , , , to a point, this may be in too much conflict with your view of the world you think you live in, , , ,.

In my work experience since 1986 I was involved with the procurement and repair of Infrared weapons targeting systems very similar to what the Hornets were using (US Navy IR Hellfires, US Army Kiowa Warriors and Apaches). The F-18 aircraft themselves may/may not have cameras capable of "white light" imaging. But, all of these "videos", that some here are disputing, are captured by infrared sensors. All of the sensors are capable of switching back-and-forth between "Hot is white/cold is black" and "Hot is black/cold is white; such is very common for various purposes/reasons.

When these UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, the officials no long call them "UFOs") first appeared the radar folks on the Princeton thought that there was a malfunction so, they took the whole radar system down and recalibrated it. When they were done and turned everything back on, , , , , the UAPs were still there and the tracking was better and clearer than before. The upgraded AN/SPY-1B radar system on the USS Princeton was, at the time, pretty much the most advanced radar in the world. It does not suffer from "parallax" like some of us camera hacks do. And, regardless of some of your objections, The DoD and the Navy say that these "objects" are real and that the videos, and their sound tracks, are authentic. NOBODY is saying that these UAPs are being piloted by alien beings, but everybody agrees that they are "not of this Earth" (not China, Russia, US made).

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Edited: 05/11/2020 at 04:56 PM by dingpatch

And, in regard to the quality of IR imaging, , , , I get this all the time. In 2002 I first took on the procurement and repair of the IR sensor for the Kiowa Warrior. The sensor was made in Germany and when it was first made many-years-ago it was The State Of The Art IR Sensor. Even though, IF I remember correctly, it had a Image resolution of around 320 (in TV picture terms you would understand). When we moved to designing a new, modern, IR sensor everybody on the Army Customer's side was Thrilled To Death with what we delivered. Yet it was only a little better than what we would call "480"! A "1080" image in the IR world was only a dream.

And, these sensors were certainly expensive and very "special". Sure, they were VERY expensive but not for the "Government waste" ideas you may have. On the Kiowa Warrior the "window" on the targeting system's outside shell (the window was germanium and only let if IR light) cost close to $3000 a piece, in "quantity". Germanium is a grey crystaline metal the Does Not pass "white light", only IR. At the time "Three Nines" germanium cost $2000 a kilo. "Three Nines" is tech speak for 99.999% purity. The price is set every day at the commodities market in London. We had to wait in line to buy it. Then all the IR lenses in the sensor were also Three Nines gemanium and had special, Top Secret, optical coatings that cost about $1200 each, and so on, , , , ,.

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Ding, If I ever see something that makes me believe, I'll be the first one to say Dingpatch was always telling people this shit was true and nobody believed him. I'll be like....




I'd love to see proof of something else out there. It'd be awesome. Would worry for my kids because most scientists say the day we see alien life, it's over for us.

Maybe they planted the Covid on us?

Research the Aztec, New Mexico UFO crash and recovery in 1948. The resultant "hoax" stories have been debunked by witness, death bed, testimonies, , , ,. SOMETHING is "going on".

"When most people think of UFO crash retrievals, they think of Roswell. While the Roswell case is worthy of research and attention, it wasn't the only likely case of a UFO crash retrieval. Before anyone talked about Roswell, people were talking about another UFO crash: one in Aztec New Mexico on March 25, 1948. The case was discussed in a book published in 1950 and before long subject to a journalistic attack that completely discredited it - at least as far as the public and most UFO researchers were concerned. For years afterward, the Aztec case was widely regarded as a hoax. A few brave souls over the years continued to look into the case but it took the research of Scott and Suzanne Ramsey to convince the research community that this crash happened. The Aztec Story is remarkable mainly due to what actually happened so many years ago, but also due to the incredible effort of the Ramseys to rehabilitate this story and bring it back into our history, where it deserves to be."



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In the past I never thought of what this was but, , , , here you go, , , ,

I was born in October 1951. We moved to Titusville in early 1954.

So, when I was 2 1/2-3 1-2 I was messed with in the middle of the night by "The Bug Man" while I was in my bed/crib i. I woke up screaming that The Bug Man had bitten me. "No, no, it was just a nightmare, go back to bed. OK. I clearly remember him and his long, spindly, fingers fucking with my head while he stood over my head from the head end of the bed. Woke up in the morning and I had a bloody spot on my right temple just above and forward of my ear. Hmmmmm? Of course, back in the 50s here in Florida, it got badly infected. To this day I have a nickel sized scar almost to the bone! Anyway, about a week after the "bite" my parents had to take me to the doctor because I had stuffed my right ear with bits of rolled up newspaper. The doctor asked me why I did it, , , , "to keep it from falling out". WTF?!?!

The Bug Man looked like what you can guess but, he was all kinds of pastel black light colors. I never knew how to describe them until the first day I went into the "Blacklight Room" at BK Music in Cocoa Beach. Creeping Holy Shit Fire! That's what the Bug Man looked like, I had not thought about him in many, many, years! Here is a picture of the Bug Man, without the vivid pastel black light colorings:



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excellent story. mine is kind of similar. I may share it one day..on a happier note ..I think everyone who went into that room was bit by "the bug man"

Edited: 05/11/2020 at 06:17 PM by StirfryMcflurry

You should be damn glad you tasted bad!



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not how i would describe aegis, nor would anyone really. multiple different ships with different systems, different kinds of jets with different systems, and human visuals all occurring simultaneously to create a hoax real enough that the government believes it is real too

got it. pretty sure nothing would change your mind.



Edited: 05/12/2020 at 06:13 AM by RiddleMe

They believe they are aliens? Never saw that said by an official.

sorry, no. not at all.

didn't think what i wrote implied that, but obviously it must of. what i mean to say is that they believe it is credible that something more than multiple simultaneous systems error along with multiple human error/delusion/whatever was out there. not that whatever it was was alien. maybe advanced tech nobody is aware of (or they aren't but aren't saying), maybe some other logical or scientific explanation, maybe something else (like aliens, interadimensional beings). but it was 'something'.

It's the modern day Area 51. I say this to my kids all the time: If there are ghosts or aliens, we'd be seeing them things all the time. It wouldn't be so minimal and only at night in the dark alone etc etc. That shit would be everywhere. LOL

Edited: 05/12/2020 at 11:37 AM by HAPDigital

That first one is easy, it is quite obviously that dude's pants flying out of the helo. Why else would he be in his skivies with his ass hanging out of it?

That or his lunch box flew out.

The US Navy has released incident reports from pilots describing their encounters with UFOs, including one detailing a silver object 'the size of a suitcase'

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Anyone watching the Skinwalker Ranch tv series?. My family moved to Utah in 76. Sis married ranchers son in Skull Valley which, it seems, is part of the mountain range. He's seen multitudes of weird crap in the skies there.

New Navy footage leaked.. Close encounter...