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Supported by the libtards on here!
As Democrats consider the idea of reparations to black Americans for slavery, polling indicates that the public is far from convinced about the idea.
House Judiciary Democrats on Wednesday were holding a hearing in the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties subcommittee on H.R. 40 -- a proposal by Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Texas, to set up a commission to study and develop a response to the question of reparations for slavery.
But polling suggests that such a commission would also need to change the minds of a significant number of Americans for the move to get support.
A Fox News poll in April found that 60 percent of Americans oppose paying cash reparations to descendants of slaves, while just 32 percent support it. A Rasmussen poll in the same month found that just 21 percent of likely voters think taxpayers should pay reparations to black Americans who can prove they are descended from slaves.

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 06/19/2019 09:06 AM
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that idea is crazy

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They should go after the descendants of those who captured and sold them into slavery!

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 06/19/2019 10:26 AM
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There really isn't any reason to pay much attention to this. This is just the Democrat candidates trying to differentiate themselves as candidates and draw attention to themselves by going extreme left. They have zero intentions of actually having to do anything with this. It is pandering, plain and simple. While we are at it, let's go ahead and have the government pay insurance benefits to the families of anyone whose homes were damaged in the United States prior to insurance being readily available.
 06/19/2019 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper There really isn't any reason to pay much attention to this. This is just the Democrat candidates trying to differentiate themselves as candidates and draw attention to themselves by going extreme left. They have zero intentions of actually having to do anything with this. It is pandering, plain and simple. While we are at it, let's go ahead and have the government pay insurance benefits to the families of anyone whose homes were damaged in the United States prior to insurance being readily available.
The point is to get the prog horde of candidates to sign on to it. That will further turn most of the electorate against them. And it won't help them with blacks, as blacks know that they are lying about it.

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Originally posted by: crankit

Supported by the libtards on here!


As Democrats consider the idea of reparations to black Americans for slavery, polling indicates that the public is far from convinced about the idea.


House Judiciary Democrats on Wednesday were holding a hearing in the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties subcommittee on H.R. 40 -- a proposal by Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Texas, to set up a commission to study and develop a response to the question of reparations for slavery.


But polling suggests that such a commission would also need to change the minds of a significant number of Americans for the move to get support.


A Fox News poll in April found that 60 percent of Americans oppose paying cash reparations to descendants of slaves, while just 32 percent support it. A Rasmussen poll in the same month found that just 21 percent of likely voters think taxpayers should pay reparations to black Americans who can prove they are descended from slaves.




 06/20/2019 05:04 AM
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By definition, reparation doesn't necessarily mean cash.
 06/20/2019 05:44 AM
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Going to be a full scale 4 ring Circus. Most of these people do not have the wherewithal to put together the required documents to get an ID. How in heck are they going to "Prove" that one of their ancestors was a slave?
 06/20/2019 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Going to be a full scale 4 ring Circus. Most of these people do not have the wherewithal to put together the required documents to get an ID. How in heck are they going to "Prove" that one of their ancestors was a slave?


Yep, them damn negros cain't do nuthin!

 06/20/2019 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: dingpatch Going to be a full scale 4 ring Circus. Most of these people do not have the wherewithal to put together the required documents to get an ID. How in heck are they going to "Prove" that one of their ancestors was a slave?
Yep, them damn negros cain't do nuthin!
Not very perceptive, are you? In any event, I have the perfect solution. Let the states decide on whether to award reparations. That would end this whole thing quickly.

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As seen by how McConnell's words were twisted yesterday, the goal is to brand anyone who says a negative word about this idiotic proposal as a racist. It's basically a trap.
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Should I do the right thing? Or should I try to keep more of my money?

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Who deserves it more, did you own any slaves?

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 06/20/2019 12:34 PM
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I don't mind paying my share to the government as long as my government does the right thing.

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 06/21/2019 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by: all3

I don't mind paying my share to the government as long as my government does the right thing.


Please explain to me how the government "does the right thing". Barack Obama's family owned slaves and his dad's family wasn't here until after slavery had ended. Does his family pay or receive reparations? Not even a quarter of the people in the South owned slaves. Do all white people have to pay, including whites who immigrated after slavery had been abolished? Do they also have to pay for the sins of their whiteness? What about blacks who immigrated here after slavery had been abolished? Do they get to cash in? Does a black person have to prove they were an ancestor of a slave? Do percentages count? If so, how does that work? If you are deciding who pays and who receives based on skin color alone, how on earth would that be anything other than the definition of a racist policy?

Cash doesn't solve problems. Opportunity solves problems. Affirmative action was already put in place to assist with giving minorities opportunities. The fact that the Democrats are pushing this should be a big indicator that Democrats are concerned that Trump's message that Trump is doing more than just talking about minorities' problems is resonating with minorities. Trump has taken steps towards prison reform, has minority unemployment rates at the lowest points in recorded history, and is working to give them purpose. The Democrats are talking about giving minorities a handout, which will never come to fruition because it is a couple hundred years too late, while the Republicans are actually delivering on giving opportunity and purpose.

Edited: 06/21/2019 at 05:19 AM by Sniper
 06/21/2019 06:06 AM
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Opportunity solves problems.

Free or reduced cost education.
 06/21/2019 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: all3 I don't mind paying my share to the government as long as my government does the right thing.
Please explain to me how the government "does the right thing". Barack Obama's family owned slaves and his dad's family wasn't here until after slavery had ended. Does his family pay or receive reparations? Not even a quarter of the people in the South owned slaves. Do all white people have to pay, including whites who immigrated after slavery had been abolished? Do they also have to pay for the sins of their whiteness? What about blacks who immigrated here after slavery had been abolished? Do they get to cash in? Does a black person have to prove they were an ancestor of a slave? Do percentages count? If so, how does that work? If you are deciding who pays and who receives based on skin color alone, how on earth would that be anything other than the definition of a racist policy? Cash doesn't solve problems. Opportunity solves problems. Affirmative action was already put in place to assist with giving minorities opportunities. The fact that the Democrats are pushing this should be a big indicator that Democrats are concerned that Trump's message that Trump is doing more than just talking about minorities' problems is resonating with minorities. Trump has taken steps towards prison reform, has minority unemployment rates at the lowest points in recorded history, and is working to give them purpose. The Democrats are talking about giving minorities a handout, which will never come to fruition because it is a couple hundred years too late, while the Republicans are actually delivering on giving opportunity and purpose.
Every taxpaying American pays. Black, white, brown, decendant of slave, descendant of founding fathers, new immigrant, whatever. It's part of being a citizen. You take the good with the bad. I would think percentages matter and I'm more about giving them land, maybe a new Homestead act.

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 06/21/2019 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by: all3

Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: all3

I don't mind paying my share to the government as long as my government does the right thing.


Please explain to me how the government "does the right thing". Barack Obama's family owned slaves and his dad's family wasn't here until after slavery had ended. Does his family pay or receive reparations? Not even a quarter of the people in the South owned slaves. Do all white people have to pay, including whites who immigrated after slavery had been abolished? Do they also have to pay for the sins of their whiteness? What about blacks who immigrated here after slavery had been abolished? Do they get to cash in? Does a black person have to prove they were an ancestor of a slave? Do percentages count? If so, how does that work? If you are deciding who pays and who receives based on skin color alone, how on earth would that be anything other than the definition of a racist policy?

Cash doesn't solve problems. Opportunity solves problems. Affirmative action was already put in place to assist with giving minorities opportunities. The fact that the Democrats are pushing this should be a big indicator that Democrats are concerned that Trump's message that Trump is doing more than just talking about minorities' problems is resonating with minorities. Trump has taken steps towards prison reform, has minority unemployment rates at the lowest points in recorded history, and is working to give them purpose. The Democrats are talking about giving minorities a handout, which will never come to fruition because it is a couple hundred years too late, while the Republicans are actually delivering on giving opportunity and purpose.

Every taxpaying American pays. Black, white, brown, decendant of slave, descendant of founding fathers, new immigrant, whatever. It's part of being a citizen. You take the good with the bad. I would think percentages matter and I'm more about giving them land, maybe a new Homestead act.


So descendants of slaves have to pay and then they get money back? Do rich black people get reparations? You going to take money from poor people of all minorities and hand it over to black people, regardless of their economic status, based on something they never had to go through, that happened a couple hundred years ago? That sounds like it will go over well. I think you should try it.
 06/21/2019 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by: all3

I don't mind paying my share to the government as long as my government does the right thing.


I'll be your government!

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Originally posted by: all3 Should I do the right thing? Or should I try to keep more of my money?
You should do the right thing - give checks to all the black folks that you come across. If the gov't doesn't do it - which they are not - you must still do the right thing, right? Let us know how that goes.

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we all know what your point is
you are pinning too much hope on the stupidity of the electorate tpap
not as many are going to buy the rights lies this time.

America making up for the legacy of slavery with reparations as cash payment still are a net negative (positive among younger voters)
but they poll much higher if you are talking about generic targeted government help to try and clean up the legacy of our early economy.

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Originally posted by: crankit Supported by the libtards on here!
As Democrats consider the idea of reparations to black Americans for slavery, polling indicates that the public is far from convinced about the idea.
House Judiciary Democrats on Wednesday were holding a hearing in the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties subcommittee on H.R. 40 -- a proposal by Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Texas, to set up a commission to study and develop a response to the question of reparations for slavery.
But polling suggests that such a commission would also need to change the minds of a significant number of Americans for the move to get support.
A Fox News poll in April found that 60 percent of Americans oppose paying cash reparations to descendants of slaves, while just 32 percent support it. A Rasmussen poll in the same month found that just 21 percent of likely voters think taxpayers should pay reparations to black Americans who can prove they are descended from slaves.
So are you saying our government shouldn't make amends for wrongful past deeds? Or are you claiming our government's support for slavery wasn't wrong?

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 06/19/2019 12:44 PM
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He's just claiming you bring this up in the Oak Hill flea market and the MAGAs going to get upset at ya

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 06/19/2019 02:29 PM
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Why would MAGAs get upset? They don't want to take responsibility?

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I'm thinking we set up a new "Homestead Program" for the decedents of slaves. Maybe on BLM lands in Utah and Nevada. Hopefully on that land buddy used to run his cattle on, or maybe Bears Ears. That would have something for everyone, piss off the environmentalists and piss off the racists.

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Oh no all3 they take responsibility for picking up their food stamps and taking their oxy when the feel they should and such.

MAGAs just don't want anyone to get ahead of them.

That's why they hate segregation, affirmative action, immigrants, school teachers, schools, minimum wage, student discounts, socialism, competition, other nations and especially reparations.

That's a pretty good idea about the land though.

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yes all3 don't let a good idea, fairness, climate science, the longing to reserve our environment, or being morally just come between you and your money. That ain't the miserly GOP way.

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

yes all3 don't let a good idea, fairness, climate science, the longing to reserve our environment, or being morally just come between you and your money. That ain't the miserly GOP way.


YEAH!

That applies to you to greenjunk.

Better start spewing a boatload of cash!

WE WANT TO SEE THE RECIEPTS TOO!

OR YOUR JUST ANOTHER POS COMMIE DEMOSHIT THAT SPOUTS BULLSHIT ALL DAY LONG!



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 06/21/2019 07:05 AM
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stokedp brilliant idea!!

We don't need more parties we need more governments!!

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 06/21/2019 02:19 PM
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Jeez do a little research. There is precedence.

The Japanese Americans that we put in camps (who were taxpaying Americans) lost most or all of what they had. Then they were "freed" and payed taxes and some became well to do. Every American citizen internee received a payment.

Yes there was a commission set up to study what to do. Yes they came up with a plan. Yes Ronald Reagan (who if he was alive today would beat twitler's a$$ for being such sad excuse for a man) approved it.

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