Arms are dead tired - 9 hours in the water past two days....

Recently got interviewed on NPR. Here's the piece:

Shifting Sandbars

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"It's always better than it looks from the crossover."

Thanks for the link.  

Nice! NPR coverage.

Bankers and Realtors really hate these kinds of words; "Let me put it this way," he says: "My daughter is 7 and I'm not planning on leaving her the house as a legacy. So when she's 40 and 50 years old, I think we're probably going to be somewhere else.

A "20/30 something" would be nuts to buy beach side.

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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

The folks at Yale are much smarter than me.  If they say the seas are rising 3.4 millimeters a year and project a 60 centimeter increase in the year 2100 then I'm good with that.  I won't be here then and and extra 2 feet of water level will probably cause the waves to hit the reef in a better spot making for our own Tressles.  

I'm a 30-something and stoked to buy a house here.  Sure there might be a 50 or 100 year storm event but that's what insurance is for.  If that happens it's not just Satellite Beach that's in trouble.  The world will go though just as it always has.  Might as well live it free from fear.

Yalereport

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I agree. What is sad is now that NPR has recoginized our own little "Mayberry by the Sea" as in trouble we will get alot less resistance to covering the reef with bandaid sand.

What we need is a good documentary on the Unique ecosystem that we are fortunate enough to enjoy here in the mid-reach area. Something that will make the uninterested residents of the barrier island open their eyes and see what a treasure we have here.

Edited: 09/19/2014 at 07:18 AM by chopola

My comments on the destructive $34 million planned dredge project are here:

http://www.crsurf.com/docs/Mid...nts-letter-GG-2012.pdf

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Good piece Dan. 

Here's a link to one on pulling house out in NY that were "Sandy-ed" into submission. 

$600M in federal funds to do the work. 

There are no cheap options in regard to sea level rise.

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/19/349559031/some-on-staten-island-opt-for-buyout-of-houses-that-dont-belong

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Very interesting, Tom.

Thinking about land buybacks vs. cost of sand: how much beachfront real estate could be bought for $30 million... in cubic yards?

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"It's always better than it looks from the crossover."

LOL @ "Mayberry by the Sea."
never heard that one before
but fitting

We have a whole army of Barney Fife's

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Don't know about "by the yard" but I like to do

back of the envelope calculations to get a scale on things.

So -

$34M might buy and remove 34 beachfront homes or about

7-15 blocks of oceanfront back to A1A.

Or it might buy a small hotel / condo or two so maybe

one or two blocks.

At the rate of renourishment every 8 year or so

it might take, get ready for this,

a very long time (< I did the math )

to buy out Brevard's beach front, or even Cocoa Beach's. 

Now that the brain has been exercised,

time to go do the arms (see original post).

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These are good, solid numbers. Or good enough, anyway.

So buybacks don't make economic sense, then, until land values plummet.

And land values don't plummet until a storm does significant damage to the infrastructure.

On the other hand, if the landowner is responsible for replenishing his own beach, his land value decreases relative to the cost of replenishment, which makes buybacks more feasible.

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"It's always better than it looks from the crossover."

so, if you are curious, the surfrider folks (sebastian for now, cocoa beach if willing) will be doing sand calculations very soon using ocean engineering folks (it's their job) and other engineers (like me) to push the calculator buttons. Please contact me if you have desire and experience with actual engineering calculations or the desire to try to make sound decisions with engineers helping out. I've been tainted somewhat at UF by starting the Ocean engineering master's track through Dr. Dean, but jumped ship when I realized I wanted a more stable career.

^More info on the Surfrider project please?  

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Take a handful of sand and hold your hand flat open at water level and very slowly move it one way ... you'll notice the trailing edge of the sand slowly erodes – physics is happening.  If it happens at a small scale … it happens the same way on a large scale.  Florida is nothing more than a limestone rock covered in sand (especially along the coast) and the whole continent is moving to the west – very slowly mind you – so the trailing edge, our beaches, are disappearing.

Now add to the equation higher sea levels and it exasperates the issue.

Tom, the Sebastian Inlet Chapter of Surfrider Foundation is going to work with the county to improve standards for future dune fill which uses upland sources. Unfortunately this doesn't affect the quality of the dredge fill in the North and South reaches. But it's a start.

Thanks Mike, that's a good choice of project.  

Seems with all the beach renourishment that rehandling that sand and moving it to the dunes 

might be a better option than using the upland deposits (?) as a source.  

Some of what I saw placed in the Mel Beach area after the 2004 storms

was closer to sandy soil than sand.  

 

 

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