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Topic Title: Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach
Topic Summary: Red tide suspected
Created On: 09/30/2018 06:55 AM
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 09/30/2018 06:55 AM
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3rdworldlover

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This is a first in my 20+ years of surfing, diving and fishing these waters.

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That is totally fked.

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 09/30/2018 01:08 PM
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Curious to see if it is actually Karenia brevis. Pictures and video that I have seen so far show water color that is not indicative of red tide. Looks like tons and tons of sargassum rafting in and that stuff stinks when it rots but it isn't red tide toxin. The sargassum plague is another problem that has gotten progressively worse over the last few years and it is probably due to extra carbon dioxide and nitrogen what should be oligotrophic water fueling extra growth. Ocean circulation patterns are probably causing it to pile up in places where it previously did not as well. But it isn't red tide.

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 09/30/2018 03:36 PM
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This June story in Science (metered paywall) covers the Caribbean sargassum explosion. Experts are Chuanmin Hu at USF-St Petersburg and Amy Siuda at Eckerd College, also in St Pete.
 09/30/2018 08:12 PM
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Heard from relatives its apparently our of control in the some of Caribbean. .. Saw a pic of a spot we went to a few years ago with it piled up solid at least a few feet high on the beach.. None a few years ago... Made the outbreaks we have been getting lately in brevard look like nothing in comparison.. It's really restricting surfing, esp on the eastern facing beaches... Hopefully it's not coming up our way.. If so - Bad news!

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Seems to be sargassum. It started coming in really thick last weekend. Super thick in Lake Worth today.
 10/01/2018 03:28 AM
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seaweed + runoff= bad news

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I'm not sure what rock those scientists have been living under but I recall a fair number of times that sargassum has inundated our beaches here on the Treasure Coast. It isn't some new horror produced by our extravagances. Red Tide would be different. I hope I never see that here.

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Greensleeves

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Well we all remember our bout of red tide here in Brevard. 10 Years ago maybe? Nasty nasty
 10/01/2018 08:53 AM
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tom

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Yep. Data from December '07

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We have had red tide in CB sometime in the last 7-8 years.
 10/01/2018 09:18 AM
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My memory tells me there was another bad one in '98-'99 but the record doesn't go that far (starts 2000). Here's a bit from an '02 red tide fish kill news article, New Symrna:
Volusia County Beach Patrol officials said they have not received any reports of health problems to people like they did in 1999, when a red tide bloom around Canaveral National Seashore and Bethune Beach gave swimmers puffy eyes and skin rashes.


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I'm genuinely curious about the skepticism to this being Red Tide. It looks like that skepticism has popped up in this thread as well. In the paper today, the PB lifeguard was writing in marker "possible" between the printed words "BEACH CLOSED" and "RED TIDE." Does it matter if it's really "Red Tide" if it's bad enough to close the beaches and people are getting sick with symptoms consistent with red tide. I know I went out in Jupiter a week ago and I just thought I was out of shape or catching a cold but I never got really sick. Just headaches and coughing for a week+. If it's rotting Sargasso seaweed or injection-well bacteria bubbling up, is that lifeguard going to write on the posted paper "it's actually not Red Tide, its this or that." What's with the doubt? The symptoms are real
 10/01/2018 12:10 PM
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ww

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I think some test results might be available late today or tomorrow. Here's where they'll be posted: Florida DEP
 10/01/2018 02:02 PM
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If you do a forum search red tide looked pretty bad here in 2007. That stuff does suck.
 10/01/2018 03:22 PM
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FWC press release. Red tide. Low to medium concentrations. The state will take more samples in St. Lucie County.

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 10/02/2018 05:31 AM
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I remember October 2007 being at the pier before sunset and the red tide was so thick in the air you could see it and I could not make it down to the water. Eyes on fire and lungs filled with what felt like bugspray(OFF) That shit lingered around for I wanna say a week or two. Havent seen it like that since. A combo of human greed (septic fertilizer lake o runoff) and what I believe to be a natural toxin like this is a recipe for disaster.
 10/02/2018 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by: PUNCH22 I'm genuinely curious about the skepticism to this being Red Tide. It looks like that skepticism has popped up in this thread as well. In the paper today, the PB lifeguard was writing in marker "possible" between the printed words "BEACH CLOSED" and "RED TIDE." Does it matter if it's really "Red Tide" if it's bad enough to close the beaches and people are getting sick with symptoms consistent with red tide. I know I went out in Jupiter a week ago and I just thought I was out of shape or catching a cold but I never got really sick. Just headaches and coughing for a week+. If it's rotting Sargasso seaweed or injection-well bacteria bubbling up, is that lifeguard going to write on the posted paper "it's actually not Red Tide, its this or that." What's with the doubt? The symptoms are real
It matters because different things have different impacts and necessary precautions. As it is, it is red tide according to the tests. The choppy water from all this onshore wind is going to make the aerosols from that crap way worse than when the water is flat calm. Onshore wind plus red tide is a nasty combo.

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 10/02/2018 06:25 AM
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daner

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It also matters because red tide is most likely the canary in the cage saying we are adding to much pollution to the ocean. The sargasso seaweed not so much. At least locally.

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 10/02/2018 06:40 AM
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The proliferation of sargassum in the carribean and tropical Atlantic since 2011 is unprecedented in the historical record. It is a harbinger of chemical changes too. Kind of like red tide having been around forever but the frequency and duration of blooms increasing.

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