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Topic Title: Beaches closed from Jupiter to Palm Beach
Topic Summary: Red tide suspected
Created On: 09/30/2018 06:55 AM
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 10/02/2018 06:59 AM
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daner

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I'm not sure the sargassum floating in here is unprecedented. I recall it fouling my leash and covering the beaches many times of the past 30 years. But I was saying it's not a local pollution problem indicator because it comes from - well the sargasso sea.

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 10/02/2018 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by: daner It also matters because red tide is most likely the canary in the cage saying we are adding to much pollution to the ocean. The sargasso seaweed not so much. At least locally.
Skepticism can be healthy but the anti-science/anti-expert sentiment that's infiltrated the surf community is really disheartening. As soon as this conversation turns to pollution and our impact on the environment, the "it's a totally natural and reoccurring event" crowd gets going.
 10/02/2018 07:17 AM
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Yes the Sargassum bloom isn't local, it just drifts in when the currents dictate, as always. But the amount of the stuff that is out there in the tropical Atlantic and Caribbean and southern Gulf is off the charts compared to historical records. There is increasing evidence that the stuff in the deep tropics and Caribbean is not originating in the Sargasso Sea but is actually growing and proliferating in the affected areas. Increases in dissolved CO2, dust from Africa, upwelling from really intense cyclones, are a few suspected sources of nutrients to fuel the growth.

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PUNCH22

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Originally posted by: scombrid Yes the Sargassum bloom isn't local, it just drifts in when the currents dictate, as always. But the amount of the stuff that is out there in the tropical Atlantic and Caribbean and southern Gulf is off the charts compared to historical records. There is increasing evidence that the stuff in the deep tropics and Caribbean is not originating in the Sargasso Sea but is actually growing and proliferating in the affected areas. Increases in dissolved CO2, dust from Africa, upwelling from really intense cyclones, are a few suspected sources of nutrients to fuel the growth.
That article ww posted was nuts. Mysterious Masses Seaweed Assault Caribbean Islands

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 10/02/2018 07:37 AM
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 10/03/2018 05:59 AM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: miker Well someone figured out a use for it
The sarassum wrack line in great for dune development (especuially in out flat beaches up here, but A few years back when we had ALOT wash up in st. augustine. I used a bunch to mulch in my veggie garden with GREAT results (makesure you rinse off th salt first though). (and before the "police" comments....yes, it's usually illegal to harvest in some places.... but I'm such a rebel

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 10/03/2018 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by: PUNCH22

Originally posted by: daner

It also matters because red tide is most likely the canary in the cage saying we are adding to much pollution to the ocean. The sargasso seaweed not so much. At least locally.


Skepticism can be healthy but the anti-science/anti-expert sentiment that's infiltrated the surf community is really disheartening. As soon as this conversation turns to pollution and our impact on the environment, the "it's a totally natural and reoccurring event" crowd gets going.


I hope your not implying I am anti science for I am not. Holding a PhD and published dozens of scientific papers and my name being on a couple of US patents for my work I have a healthy respect for it. But science is also not flawless.



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 10/03/2018 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by: daner I hope your not implying I am anti science for I am not. Holding a PhD and published dozens of scientific papers and my name being on a couple of US patents for my work I have a healthy respect for it. But science is also not flawless.
Nope, no implication. My apologies if that seemed aimed at you. It wasn't. "UPDATE All Palm Beach County beaches from Lake Worth Beach north to the Martin County line will remain closed on Wednesday. Lifeguards and staff at Palm Beach County beaches reported continued irritation, according to Palm Beach County Public Affairs Department."
 10/03/2018 07:53 AM
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Changing wind patterns are another symptom of climate change. Sargasso has always been there, perhaps a change in wind flow is the cause of the increase along shorelines.

I saw a crap load of baby Triple Tail clinging to it while surfing the other day.

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 10/03/2018 11:38 AM
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PUNCH22

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Lots of dead fish washing up in PBC!
 10/03/2018 11:38 AM
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ww

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Dead fish on the beaches in northern Palm Beach County--WPBF. WFTV has video of dead fish.
 10/03/2018 12:35 PM
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Waverider969

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how are the conditions in Brevard county? I'm heading up this weekend. Hopefully cleaner and better surf for the weekend
 10/03/2018 03:04 PM
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SurfCaster

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If it's in PBC now it will be in Brevard soon...#$&%!

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 10/03/2018 04:06 PM
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ww

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The Wednesday FWC map is negative for us.
 10/04/2018 05:26 AM
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3rdworldlover

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The FAK
 10/04/2018 06:43 AM
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johnnyboy

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The smell is getting worse. You would think with stiff onshores it would be minimized. Nope.

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 10/04/2018 07:10 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Mullet Marshal just said in public hearing that PBC samples are positive for red tide. This is coming from the GOMEX loop current, and very rare but not unprecedented.
 10/04/2018 08:04 AM
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Beaches in northern Miami-Date County are positive and have been closed (Miami Herald)
 10/04/2018 08:09 AM
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 10/04/2018 10:48 AM
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Red Tide Rick says that Federal Government has had decades to address this and yet here we are. He also said he is probusiness, anti-regulation and that Corporations should police themselves and have immunity from lawsuits.

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