https://www.raw.surf/blog/seba...-its-history-of-groms/https://www.raw.surf/blog/sebastian-inlet-fl-and-its-history-of-groms/

Edited: 01/03/2019 at 08:20 PM by rawsurf

I understand the desire to drag Lisa along on the coat tails of "world champions" from Florida, but having grown up with her in Daytona until she ran away to California and really learned to surf, I hope people will just focus on people that really did blossom at the inlet. Caroline Marks for example. She'd be a great name to include.

I totally agree pompano.

I surfed there a ton in early 80s. I never remember seeing any of those names there. I never had problems catching waves at first peak. Sure it was crowded at times, but never saw the localism they describe in that article. Now, in the 70s maybe and I only saw those joe pro surf the inlet when there was a contest. Saw the hobgoods all the time surfing Satellite, but never at the inlet. Maybe our paths didn't cross and maybe they did. I'm sure they did. We all did. But, interesting that they are trying to build it up like it was some Da Hui inlet pack. It wasn't. Everyone was friendly I thought. I'm sure I got cut off at times, but that can happen anywhere there are a ton of people surfing.

Sorry man - if you never saw Morc, Kech, Spier or Hartley out, then you def were not there 'a ton'. Most on that list were pretty reg. Even though a North FL surfer, Lisa is forever linked for scoring that cover shot there, and she did surf there from time to time. When I was 16 back in the 80's, a well known local in the hierarchy rooted me hard for paddling for and missing a wave - lesson learned - don't do that. If you paddle for it you better get it, or you were going to hear about it. And then you better rip the bag out of it, or you were headed north. I saw plenty go down there, all that has been described and much much more.



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I saw and met Matt Kechele and Hartley, but only a couple times. Maybe that was their spot they frequented the most. Never had a problem. Never saw the "pecking order". Glamorizing that aspect of localism is kind like bullying. I never saw it. Maybe it did exist, but is it worthy of a name drop and one with Lisa Anderson kind of making it a legend or myth?!? I paddled out at first peak and caught waves. It was crowded at times like I said, but no one regulated it like it insinuates. Paddle out anywhere where it is a single point wave like first peak was and sure there is going to be jockeying for position. But, overall I found everyone nice. I was in High School so prob could have been considered a 'grom'. I surfed it a lot. Especially in the summer when looking for anywhere to surf. late 70s/80s/90s. But, whatever, hold on to that I wasn't there... Bleh...

Edited: 01/07/2019 at 01:51 PM by Central Floridave

You were there, and there allot, but not when it was 'good' that also brought the thems. With respect- Your timing musta not been there either, and since you didn't cop to that possibility, we ain't never go'in to the casino together either. Bad timing=bad luck

Let's be honest, groms get more leeway at known spots than your standard new face in the lineup. I remember when I was a kid first time surfing the inlet I catch a left at 2nd peak and head straight at a local coming right from 1st Peak. Lets just say I didn't do that again, but he didn't try and send me to the beach or anything. It was more like hey grom wake up. There is a way things should work at these hot spots, just watch any recent video of Pipe when it's going off; the crowd is very orderly and the etiquette is quite apparent (not saying it's always been like that but I am quite impressed from what I see in edits from recent years there). If you're a new face you should absolutely realize you are and realize getting waves won't be easy/fun if you immediately paddle to the peak and hassle for sets. You hangout a little wide, be friendly, catch some insiders, and wait for some space to open up before you start moving into better position (I used to not really get this but it's worth it). I surfed Hatteras Lighthouse on a proper Hurricane swell this past fall and had a blast. First Peak is only a windswell spot now due to all the beach renourishment so people can kind of do what they want there now since it doesn't really get crowded much anymore. Night and day difference since back in the day, and idk about u guys but I think this has had a massive affect on FL surf culture. I mean are there any FL Millennials who have any hopes whatsoever of filling Slater's, Hobgoods', Lopezes' shoes? I'd say unfortunately no...

Red board = "Party's Over"....nuh said....there was a pecking order, but it slowly disappeared like the wave itself. I just went real early to get a few uncrowded waves then as the line up filled up, the jockeying, drop-ins, began. I only had an issue with one person down there, glad he moved away.

Edited: 01/08/2019 at 10:40 AM by SurferMic