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Topic Title: Project Stingray Topic Summary: fake cell towers Created On: 08/07/2015 11:58 AM |
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08/07/2015 11:58 AM
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I couldn't find the older post of this, but here is an article of the fake cell towers being used out in Cali. The cops can spy on your phone calls and texts without a warrant.
Long article, but worth the read: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...-snoop-on-cell-phones/ ------------------------- GOP: Gaslight Obstruct Project |
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08/08/2015 07:53 AM
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Like the new tower at the baseball field in IHB? I thought it was for Obama and jade helm.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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08/10/2015 05:13 AM
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Kinda suprising to think that everybody walking around with a radio transmitter (cell phone) thinks that only the intended recipient can recieve the signal. People are funny. ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway Edited: 08/10/2015 at 05:24 AM by tom |
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08/10/2015 05:54 AM
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The old analog cell phones were really easy to listen in on 15-20 years ago, but current generation digital calls are highly encrypted, leading people to think they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, and historically the same level previous generations expected from landlines.
I'm not sure what recent court rulings have been on "reasonable expectation of privacy" but we know courts like FISA value their privacy, so it may take some digging to find out. With that said, a Stingray is actually routing your call (as well as monitoring it) instead of your cellular carrier. Thus, the cell companies could conceivably sue the police for theft of revenue. (Back in the days of per-minute charges, that might have been a feasible court case.) If Brighthouse, for example, had a cable running to my house, but didn't give me a descrambler for certain channels, and I built my own to decode them (simply reading a signal that was already there), you can be sure they and the courts would be all over me. Really no different than an antenna. |
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08/10/2015 06:24 AM
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^All true but any transmission can be intercepted and codes are, well you know. Rules (laws) aside, I just think it's funny (or maybe innocent/naive) to think otherwise. My understanding is that some organizations go to great lengths to protect even audio from improper intereception ... ------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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08/10/2015 04:48 PM
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08/10/2015 06:22 PM
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lol ^ nothing at all!
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08/11/2015 06:48 AM
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Creating this sort of technology for the Government to use on us is part of what makes our locale economy strong!
------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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09/04/2015 07:25 AM
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09/16/2019 11:22 AM
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Turns out Israel wanted know what was being said in the Whitehouse too.
http://www.politico.com/story/...spying-devices-1491351 ------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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09/16/2019 04:34 PM
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Oh that swilly Mossad! Always up to something wacky! ------------------------- |
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09/17/2019 05:07 AM
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As I would understand it, , , , your cell phone connection and conversation is deemed "private".
Interestingly though, IF you have an old-style "cordless phone" in your home, those conversations ARE NOT private due to the fact that you are using "public" radio frequencies! ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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09/17/2019 10:13 AM
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There's nothing private, but I'd recommend Signal as your text messaging app.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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09/17/2019 07:21 PM
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I don't know, What's App is great, if you really, really like being tracked, recorded and having the occasional file pilfered.
------------------------- I was right. |
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09/18/2019 05:36 AM
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I tried a case with feds last year. WhatsApp spoofing totally ineffective. The state won't spend the money to do that thorough of investigation but the feds will if it's big enough. Nothing is ever secret. Nothing is erased and nothing is ever undiscoverable. It's just a question of who is doing the investigation and why. The bigger problem is that this technology is sold commercially and available to most people. It's shocking what a tech savvy person and a couple thousand dollars can be capable of.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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