you work in one of the fields then? what are your thoughts on nad boosting/restoration using things like nr combined with recent advances in stem cell manipulation, organ replacement, and dna manipulation with crispr buying people enough additional time, both quality health span and life span, to reach escape velocity? really only need 30 more years tops

also senolytics, age inhibitors plus a few of the new possible breakers with potential, and some of the telomerase enhancing breakthroughs? also any thoughts on rapa itself or any of the rapalogs? it has translated cross species for multiple species perfectly, should do so for humans as well for at least a few extra years. i have numerous friends involved in research, unfortunately none local.

Edited: 02/04/2019 at 06:27 PM by RiddleMe

http://time.com/5090112/infant-mortality-rate-usa/

Otherwise no jargon wars, thanks. Unless you have published something.

Edited: 02/04/2019 at 06:41 PM by TeeBirdForever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_extension

As I suspected it's controversial. I think a cure for cancer would be a good start. That's a tough mountain to climb itself.

IMO, stopping the natural replacement process is a very bad idea. Also, part of life is coming to grips with death. It's a very important part of life. Many fare very poorly at this endeavor, IMO especially in this day, to their great detriment as your death informs your life.

not to be rude but infant mortality rates, while disgusting for our country, is completely irrelevant to what i said. also, there was no intent of jargon wars, it is simply the name of the tech. apologies, your sarcastic post earlier made me think you were in the field so my posts were with that in mind

Edited: 02/05/2019 at 07:28 AM by RiddleMe

disagree again. obviously we have very different viewpoints. i never bought in to deathism. it should be and eventually will be a choice regardless of individual viewpoint. people like you can choose to die, people like me will be able to choose to live. regardless of individual choices regarding death, cessation of deterioration and decay due to aging will benefit everyone.

I agree with this guy.

Sci Am

the article is over 2 years old, before crispr was widely known, before senolytics, before mountains of cross species research on rapa and rapalogs, before numerous other advances, and obviously doesnt know both the breadth and extent of the breakthroughs made even relevant to two years ago. to top it off, he uses the third law of thermodynamics and a 12 year old paper as the basis for what he wrote. personally, this guy seems as much of an expert on this subject as trump does on the environment. i give it just as much weight

obviously life insurance companies disagree with this guy, they routinely write policies to 120 now.

The second law, not the third law. The third law is pretty esoteric; the second law is a wide ranging and profound discovery that sets limits on the effective use of energy.

The article seems to state that living until 120 is probably achievable. "If it helps more of us live healthy lives up to the ceiling of some 120 years, that would be welcome progress, but let's not delude ourselves into believing radical life extension is around the corner." By radical I assume he means beyond 120.

Misses like these make me even more skeptical, sorry.

Finally where is an overview of the huge breakthroughs of the last two years..."numerous other advances"?

research some of the items i mentioned. regarding summaries or overviews, google it maybe? not my source of info. i have several direct plugs, coupled with my interest and piles of research i have poured through. oh, yeah my bad. he did use 2nd law, not third. still irrelevant.

Edited: 02/06/2019 at 09:49 AM by RiddleMe

breaking into second post cause line breaks dont work for me. as a starting point look at cellular senescence and senolytics, restoration and rejuvenation of mitochondrial function, NAD+ via things like NR/NAM, AGEs AGE inhibitors and breakers, increased understanding of DNA expression/RNA, and how tech like CRISPR or similar can be used. just a starting point to get a better idea of the big picture. there is so so so much more.

My very best friend, Cocoa Beach local, is having open heart surgery on Tuesday. Some is genetic, but a lot is lifestyle. For your health. Consider where you are at. Check those blood chems. Review your diet, exercise. Other wise: when and where is the paddle out?

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Yep, and then factor in our environment. Styrofoam and bleached paper cups filled with scalding hot liquid, plastic packaging made God knows where and under God knows what conditions, vegetable soaked in weed killer, heavy metals in fish, carcinogens in farm raised seafood, exhaust spewing from the truck in front to you, micro plastics everywhere...

Either science needs to get busy or we need to get smarter about our physical world.





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Some great information on this thread.....but I just wanted to drop a little levity into the situation

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Most people the same age as me fall into two categories.

Wise and getting wiser.

Getting crazier and less rational by the day.

It's too late now, hahaha.