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 09/12/2019 05:13 AM
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RiddleMe

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In October 2018, the Corps began re-evaluating a portion of the property now known as the South Patrick Shores Subdivision to determine if the military acquired or used any part of the area. Research teams visited numerous National Archives facilities in three states, and teams were able to locate various letters and memoranda not previously available. Recently located records (not available during the investigation conducted in 1991) indicate that during the construction of the base, the Navy began using an area south of the base for disposal activities. As the Navy prepared to deactivate the base, teams from the public works department sought to restore the disposal area to the property owner's satisfaction. They burned all of the trash and other debris and buried what remained.
finally the gov acknowledges what those of us finding military waste in our yards already knew. possible tie in to the cancer cluster issue? probably
 09/12/2019 05:21 AM
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wow at the finding of fact (the other doc on the site)
The Navy approved NASBR in the summer of 1939, and construct ion began on 28 February 1940. 3 NASBR operated between 1 October 1940 and 4 September 1947, serving as a secondary field to the main 7th Naval District Naval Air Station at Jacksonville. 4 During the initial phases of construction, the Navy began using land immediately south of the installation in Section 23 as a " dump and destroy area ".
The restoration "process consisted of burning and burying all rubble, trash, etc. to a depth of eight to ten feet and covering it with six feet of soil.
and here it is. 'restoration' of land by the military. just burn it and bury it. wow
 09/12/2019 05:45 AM
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Here are the 1943 aerial photos from UF. Look at Tile 49 and 50 to get oriented, 50 is linked. Big disturbed area just west of A1A, south of the base could be the dump site? If so, that's the area between Pineda and S. Patrick Housing? Just a guess. https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00071730/00001/50x

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 09/12/2019 06:58 AM
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OK, I understand what RiddleMe is saying.

But, the "Navy" and "Air Force" dumps are two different concerns. It would be interesting to evaluate what/which types of "hazardous" chemicals they each used during their times. BRNAS operated from 1940 until 1947. PAFB did not start operating until 1949. I don't know if there is any clear information as to what the Navy "dumped" south of the base. Was hazardous "fire fighting chemistry", etc., in place during the Navy's tenure? It had always, more-or-less, been known that the SPS area was used by the Navy as a "junk/trash" dump. My specific location comments are in regard to the Air Force's "chemical" dump.

So, to get an orientation of what we are looking at in the 1943 photos:

The Navy's original runway configuration is still in place, the "main" runway is now much longer. In the 1943 image #50, there is an "inverted" Y lay out of ammo bunkers south of the runways. The five (5) left (western) ones still exist. The Southern boundry of the base is the East-West road (Old SPS 4th Street) running from A1A to the river which is what is now Pineda Causeway. The "cleared" area at the Southeast corner of the base is the old coastal defense radar site. South of that is a "disturbed" area just off of A1A that runs from about where Ocean Blvd now is down to aprox where Berkley is now; "Navy" activity or private land owner?

The Air Force's hazardous dump site is/was in the Red circled area of the attached photo. After all of this came out, the AF fenced of that portion of land and its surrounding water.




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 09/12/2019 07:17 AM
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RiddleMe

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neighbors have found pieces of airplanes, vehicles, ordinance, drums, and other crap buried in their yards from the military. voc testing in some of these areas have also shown cancer causing chemicals among others as well. now the government admits to it. not sure what that is going to mean for the neighborhood in the end, safe to say, between the af and usn, they have screwed up the area pretty good
 09/12/2019 04:17 PM
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Cole

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The sicknesses aren't a coincidence. None of this should be a surprise.

What in the hell is in the muck that they are getting ready to dig?

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 09/12/2019 04:57 PM
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RiddleMe

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Originally posted by: Cole The sicknesses aren't a coincidence. None of this should be a surprise. What in the hell is in the muck that they are getting ready to dig?
exactly. and they are staging off pineda where it could effect people
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