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 10/18/2019 06:36 PM
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garcia

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My roommate freshman year at UF (1973) played Wishbone Ash non-freaking-stop. I have not been able to listen to them since. The problem is the number admitted to the HoF every year. There are not five or so that are worthy of induction. To do so means there are five new bands, that come onto the scene EVERY YEAR, that will eventually deserve induction. That would be equivalent to inducting 50-60 EVERY YEAR into the baseball HoF. It is ridiculous. Drop it to one and we might not have this discussion. The induction would be obvious.
 10/19/2019 07:28 AM
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Thanks for making a list, here my comments:
Notorious B.I.G ........ Yes. took hip hop to gangsta rap. Very influential. I don't like it, but did help spawn a new genre.
Whitney Houston, ...... Yes. She is the epitome of rock n roll. Sing about love, sex, drugs, dies from cocaine overdose. Ultimate Rock Diva.
Pat Benatar ........ Prob most deserving YES. Love Benatar. She has done it forever and independently mostly and with her long time husband. YES.
Dave Matthews Band .... No
Depeche Mode ..... YES. Big fat YES. Very influential great songs. some of the deeper cuts aren't that good but they had me on the dance floor in the 80s.
Doobie Brothers ........ Yes love their radio hits. not to familiar deeper cuts. when Michael Mcdonnel (sp?) sang for them is when best.
Judas Priest ....... yes. Pioneered hair metal. MTV vids were cool. Breaking the Law, Breaking the law...
Kraftwerk ...... Yes, just for pioneering synth music. Songs get boring after awhile though. so border line yes.
MC5 ...... No, Detroit garage band rock. Whatev. Sure, maybe yes, but no if had it my way.
Motörhead ....... No. Weak music. Doesn't not move the needle for me.
Nine Inch Nails ....... Yes for PRETTY HATE MACHINE alone. Everything else is icing on the cake.
Rufus / Chaka Khan .... Love Chaka Khan. Would have to go back and listen to Rufus though. not familiar w/it.
Todd Rundgren ......... No.
Soundgarden ..... Yes. Early influential grunge. Gotta award the originals from a new genre.
T. Rex ...... No Bang A Gong...(on, my bands set list), But what else? Dunno.
Thin Lizzy ...... No but maybe yes. not too familiar with them.
 10/19/2019 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by: garcia

My roommate freshman year at UF (1973) played Wishbone Ash non-freaking-stop. I have not been able to listen to them since.


LOL, I remember that from a previous post of yours. Since they formed in 1969, all you could have heard then was what they did in their first 4 years as a band. Some good, classic stuff in there, lots of experimental, and some experiments that failed. Some trippy stuff that wasn't my favorite work either. Funny story: My wife and I were listening to my Spotify station in the car last week. I was telling her some of WA's older stuff was like a quaalude trip, and the next song that came up (which I had totally forgotten about) was called "714."

I only started digging into WA's work in 1985, so there was a 16-year archive by then. Lots of style changes, personnel changes, and different stuff. Next year is their 50th anniversary tour. Although people go to their shows for the classics, some of their new stuff is really good.

They were one of the first bands using two lead guitarists, basically in parallel with the Allman Brothers. That innovative sound was an inspiration for Lynyrd Skynyrd, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and many others.

Any musician who is still alive after 50 years of touring deserves some kind of recognition. To have influenced the music of so many successful bands, and still be able to kill it in concert at this age, deserves a bit more.

But music appreciation outside the R&R HoF is a lot like free-surfing. No rules. You do what you like, appreciate what you appreciate, and bond with others over what you have in common that makes you feel good.

And when you look at some of the clowns in the R&R HoF, you almost wonder if a serious band would really want to be in there with them.
 10/20/2019 04:10 PM
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I really think the problem is they admit too many bands each year. They struggle to fill the slots. I saw Chaka Khan and Rufus as one of the opening bands for the Stones (another was Hall & Oates if I recall). Neither was worth a crap even on a good day. It was August in the Gator Bowl, hot as freaking hell, all vendors ran out of everything, people trying to drink out of spigots in the bathroom and others dropping like flies. I will NEVER forgive the Stones for having those 3rd rate bands as openers. God, it was AWFUL.
 10/20/2019 05:11 PM
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Central Floridave

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Rock Hall of Fame Hall Nominees Doobie Brothers Looking Forward to Reunion if They Make the Cut
http://www.billboard.com/artic...all-of-fame-nomination
 10/20/2019 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by: garcia

I really think the problem is they admit too many bands each year. They struggle to fill the slots. I saw Chaka Khan and Rufus as one of the opening bands for the Stones (another was Hall & Oates if I recall). Neither was worth a crap even on a good day. It was August in the Gator Bowl, hot as freaking hell, all vendors ran out of everything, people trying to drink out of spigots in the bathroom and others dropping like flies. I will NEVER forgive the Stones for having those 3rd rate bands as openers. God, it was AWFUL.


I was at the Gator Bowl Stones Show!! and yes it was hot as balls!! The second band was J Geils and we didn't bother to get there until well into their set.

Remember Mick hosing down the people in front with a fire hose??


LOL !!!!! CentoDavo's criteria for HOF admittance is if he likes someone or not.



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 10/21/2019 04:18 AM
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The only thing I remember about the Stones that day was that they played a really, really short set. I'm sure they were about to pass out from the heat, but, after that concert, I have never wanted to see them again.
 10/21/2019 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by: Central Floridave Nine Inch Nails ....... Yes for PRETTY HATE MACHINE alone. Everything else is icing on the cake. .................... Todd Rundgren ......... No. .
SOMEBODY needs to go back to THE SCHOOL OF ROCK. 0/5 , take a lap & sorry about your luck , Dave!!!

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 10/21/2019 09:12 AM
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I too think Pretty Hate Machine is alone enough. That album was/is so good and affected so many artists that it merits the induction.

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 10/21/2019 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy I too think Pretty Hate Machine is alone enough. That album was/is so good and affected so many artists that it merits the induction.
vs/ compared to Todd Rundgren and his discography? You've got to be kidding. .................??

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 10/22/2019 07:10 AM
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Well. I was up above it. Now I'm down in it.

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 10/22/2019 09:31 AM
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^^ HELLO[/B]....it's ME!!!

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 10/29/2019 11:26 AM
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Central Floridave

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The comments are kind of funny on this article:

Trent Reznor On The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame: "I've Changed My Opinion"
Tom Breihan @tombreihan | October 29, 2019 - 1:19 pm
http://www.stereogum.com/20632...anged-my-opinion/news/
 10/30/2019 06:26 AM
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Thin Lizzy FTW. They were the real deal.

Pat Benetar gets my guilty pleasure vote for her hubby's hot guitar playing. Giraldo really is a top level guitar ace. NIN, MC5, yes, of course; real stuff. Todd, absolutely; so influential. Chaka Khan and T-Rex, yes.

As for the rest, there is no point in saying something unless you have something good to say.
 10/30/2019 08:36 AM
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LBLarry

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Pat Benetar gets my guilty pleasure vote for her hubby's hot guitar playing. Giraldo really is a top level guitar ace.


I agreed to go to a concert of her's about 15 years ago. I can assure you that 99.987% of all males in attendance were not there for Giraldo's axe skills. They were there with their wives / GF's for the guaranteed after concert sex, for agreeing to go.



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