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Created On: 05/25/2017 10:55 AM
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 05/25/2017 10:55 AM
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WG

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because:

"When it comes to health insurance, market-oriented solutions are the most expensive option.

This is a reality centrist Democrats found themselves facing awkwardly when they sat down to write the Affordable Care Act in 2009

"Moderates" liked the idea of subsidizing the purchase of private insurance more than they liked the idea of expanding a government insurance program. But they also liked the idea of spending less money rather than more. And it turned out that on a per patient basis, expanding Medicaid was cheaper than extending subsidies to buy private insurance. Democrats had to choose between their ideological aversion to government insurance and their ideological aversion to higher spending, and ultimately wound up deciding that a hefty dose of Medicaid expansion was a better idea than pushing the spending total up.

But this is exactly the point that Republicans - who are much more averse to federal social spending than even the most centrist Democrat - consistently refuse to acknowledge.

Almost across the board, government solutions are cheaper:

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 05/25/2017 10:57 AM
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SlimyBritches

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They can't fix it because their masters won't let them. How can they get trillions of tax credits when we try to help the sick and underprivileged. How un KKKristian of them.
 05/25/2017 11:08 AM
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They're really in a tight spot over this. That's part of why that meathead in Montana lost it and smacked around the reporter.



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 05/25/2017 05:04 PM
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SlimyBritches

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That and the reporter had recently wrote about some schit the pol was doing.
 05/25/2017 05:09 PM
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all3

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Yep, that reporter exposed that the guy had investments in sanctioned russian companies



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 05/25/2017 07:13 PM
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theglide

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That explains why Uday was there supporting him.
 05/25/2017 07:46 PM
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23 Million to lose their health insurance.. WINNING!

Winning so much they are sick of it- literally.. but cant go to the doctor LOL

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 05/25/2017 07:52 PM
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Cole

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55 with a minimum income? You are screwed.

7 out of the 10 of the states most dependent of Medicaid and social services voted for Trump. Now he is going to cut billions from the plan and Trump's explanation is... Now the people who pay for it get the say in what happens. That will go over well in the Rust Belt.


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 05/26/2017 04:24 AM
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RustyTruck

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...but at least they got a white man into the white house again....

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 05/26/2017 06:46 AM
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Until the federal (not local) government regulates the 'priviledge to practice' any and all medical related and ties it directly to the 'prices' that can be charged we will be on a downward slide and unable to compete globally.

The 'health insurance' industry has to go away period.  They are like having workers involved in making cigarettes or asbestos.. Sorry you chose the wrong profession or line of work..

The way that the system is set up we are essentially being extorted by both the health insurance and medical companies for our families health.

The upper level government level officials who make the rules that apply to us (not them) have golden parachute plans that we pay for.  They have no skin in the game.  If they had to buy their own insurance as individuals (not under a priviledged 'group'), the whole system would be changed to single payer overnight.

If we personally do not have insurance and have a severe 'event', we loose any equity we may have in our houses (when we sell), and all cash assets we have on hand.. We cannot afford to not have insurance - AT ANY PRICE.



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 05/27/2017 07:01 AM
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ww

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John Cassidy at the New Yorker made pretty much the same point.  Medicaid is pretty cheap and it has the potential to be expanded into a pretty cheap single-payer health care system offering universal, if kind of minimal, coverage to everyone.  Republicans are horrified by the notion of such socialized medicine, so are doing their best to destroy Medicaid.  

Florida is getting about 1.5 billion in aid to hospitals to make up for not participating in expanded Medicaid.  Of course the Legislature used that aid to cut its own aid to the hospitals.

Members of Congress and their senior staff do have to buy health insurance directly through Obamacare.  They cut themselves out of the Federal Employee Health Benefits (FEHB), an excellent setup.  

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