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WG

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There's Rumbling on the Right Over Trump

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but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 07/15/2017 08:07 PM
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dingpatch

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But, then again, the "right" is much further to the right of Trump.

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 07/16/2017 05:37 AM
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WG

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Trump has no ideology.

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but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 07/16/2017 07:42 AM
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WG

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Other than lying, cheating, stealing and grabbing pussy.

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but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
 07/16/2017 07:48 AM
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Watched Chris Wallace this morning. 

He (and to a lesser degree Brit Hume) certainly think this is not good for America and was very critical of Donnie Jr and the Trump clan's motives and handling of the events.

Fox News seems to be dividing into two factions.  Hannity and shills, and the normal folks who can't defend these actions any longer.



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 07/16/2017 07:56 AM
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WG

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And this is just from the first trickle of insight.
The full scope of these crimes will be revealed eventually.


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 07/16/2017 08:00 AM
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They have said all along that Trump is doing great things, why would they not want to back him?

He isn't the one that needs to come up with a health bill. Republicans in congress have blocked and hampered the ACA for years and years, it's their job to find a replacement.

Republicans wanted to ban Muslims, he did it.

Republicans want Mexicans out, Trump plans on doing that too.

Trump and Republicans are one in the same, if one goes down, they all should.




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 07/16/2017 12:24 PM
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Bamboo

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Peggy Noonan (aid/speechwriter to President Reagan and H.W.) - "Was it collusion? It was worse, it was classless."

Yep, money can't buy class.



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 07/16/2017 12:52 PM
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If this meeting was all there was, if it came to nothing, it merely shows that the Trumps were prepared to commit treason to win.
Not enough to take him down.
But does anyone believe that this was all there was?

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 07/16/2017 12:59 PM
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But does anyone believe that this was all there was?


No, if it was why has the administration been spinning this web of a cover-up for months?
 07/16/2017 01:02 PM
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http://thefederalistpapers.org...ium=FB&utm_campaign=LC

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 07/18/2017 06:09 AM
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WG

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As TrumpCareLess
goes down in flames,
more Republicans grok
how useless he is in advancing their agenda.

(not including polluters,
he's been great for their agenda)

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 07/18/2017 07:06 AM
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Trump vows to create a 350+ ship US Navy.

His pick for SecNav says basically - Ummm, probably not.

"That answer raised alarms in some circles where building a 355-ship Navy is a high priority. Spencer’s backpedaling on the Navy’s own stated goal of 355 ships was a similar dance to the one performed by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis when pressed in June about the larger fleet."

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/a-355-ship-navy-well-see-says-trumps-navy-secretary-pick

 



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 07/18/2017 07:27 AM
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Looking at their base and wondering: "Russia good or Russia bad?".

Depends on how many are evangelicals who drank the cool-aid.

 07/18/2017 07:34 AM
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WG

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We need/can afford more big ship or more ships, but not both.
I think a dozen cruise missile equipped drone carriers will be a lot more bang for the buck than another Ford class and it's F-35s.


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 07/18/2017 07:45 AM
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^^^^

Yeah, I don't know what the right balance is but am open to refreshing our fleet and right-sizing to meet our threats - and let the numbers fall where they may. 

My point was that the Trump wings it and says whatever strokes his base without any consultation with reality.



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 07/18/2017 08:45 AM
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WG

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I sometimes think he does consult reality only so that he can explicitly avoid it.


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 07/18/2017 08:50 AM
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I wonder if he'll have the Chinese build our war ships?



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 07/18/2017 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

I wonder if he'll have the Chinese build our war ships?


He likes him some cheap Chinese steel.

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 07/18/2017 09:35 AM
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“We're going to win so much. You're going to get tired of winning. you’re going to say, ‘Please Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don't win so much. This is getting terrible.’ And I'm going to say, ‘No, we have to make America great again.’ You're gonna say, ‘Please.’ I said, ‘Nope, nope. We're gonna keep winning.’

 

At least part of this is true - Please Mr. President, I have a headache.  Make it stop.



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