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 11/20/2017 11:12 AM
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WG

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"It was around this time that Donald Trump appears to have attracted the attention of Soviet intelligence. How that happened, and where that relationship began, is an answer hidden somewhere in the KGB's secret archives."

The dossier by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele asserts that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for "at least five years" before his stunning victory in the 2016 US presidential election. This would take us back to around 2011 or 2012.

In fact, the Soviet Union was interested in him too, three decades earlier. The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. " The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans.

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"In addition to shifting politics in Moscow, Kryuchkov's difficulty had to do with intelligence gathering. The results from KGB officers abroad had been disappointing. Too often they would pretend to have obtained information from secret sources. In reality, they had recycled material from newspapers or picked up gossip over lunch with a journalist. Too many residencies had "paper agents" on their books: targets for recruitment who had nothing to do with real intelligence.

Kryuchkov sent out a series of classified memos to KGB heads of station. Oleg Gordievsky - formerly based in Denmark and then in Great Britain - copied them and passed them to British intelligence. He later co-published them with the historian Christopher Andrew under the title Comrade Kryuchkov's Instructions: Top Secret Files on KGB Foreign Operations 1975 - 1985.

In January 1984 Kryuchkov addressed the problem during a biannual review held in Moscow, and at a special conference six months later. The urgent subject: how to improve agent recruitment. The general urged his officers to be more "creative." Previously they had relied on identifying candidates who showed ideological sympathy toward the USSR: leftists, trade unionists and so on. By the mid-1980s these were not so many. So KGB officers should "make bolder use of material incentives": money. And use flattery, an important tool."

That's when the Collusion started.



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 11/20/2017 11:55 AM
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Greensleeves

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That would probably coincide with US banks getting nervous about his ability to repay anything?

 

 11/20/2017 12:16 PM
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nukeh2o

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Good find, mr. wg.
It was pretty common knowledge in south florida that he was in the bag of russian badguys by the early 90's. After the fall of the cccp, ex kgb and spetznaz guys who had raped, pillaged and plundered their own country. Started getting nervous and needed a corrupt real estate dirtbag overseas to launder their loot, and get the hell out of Dodge City......
They found the right guy alright, in spades. Now they live in trump towers in sunny isles beach, aka little moscow. And run the underworld in new york and miami! Thanx donnie!
They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, havent they, stupid chumpfdirts.........

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 11/20/2017 12:58 PM
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Kompromat

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 11/20/2017 02:15 PM
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theglide

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When are the Russian sanctions (that were voted for overwhelmingly in the House and Senate) going to be implemented?

Is Trump afraid to implement them?

This is becoming a Constitutional crisis.
 11/20/2017 02:21 PM
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crankit

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Uranium1 Uranium1



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 11/20/2017 02:35 PM
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RustyTruck

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All the dots are being connected.

Soon enough they will know they've been had.

Mueller wants to talk to Hicks, Jared has been caught in some lies, the whole thing is coming apart.

Uranium won't save him.



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 11/24/2017 08:55 AM
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Crankit-

You forgot:

ANTIFA!!!

Nov 4th! The darkies are coming! To arms! To arms!

ANTIIIIIFAAAAAAAAAAAA!!



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 11/24/2017 01:07 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: crankit

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Why hasn't Trump implemented the sanctions issued by the congress of the United States?



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 11/25/2017 02:05 PM
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nukeh2o

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Originally posted by: crankit

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Yahbut, yahbut.......



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 11/25/2017 02:10 PM
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WG

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Just to be clear, it's after Thanksgiving and 30 years later and the Lying Sack of Shit traitor is President.

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Edited: 11/25/2017 at 02:21 PM by WG
 11/26/2017 05:16 PM
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Cole

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I still can't believe people elected the fcking moron.

Bush, McCain, hell, even Jeb...but, this tool? Really?

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 11/27/2017 11:30 AM
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Zeus

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Let's not foget the fact that Hillary lied, cheated and stole to make it through the primary.  She had tyrant written all over her.  Upon knowing that, any sane person would have voted for the devil himself over Hillary.  So in fact its her fault Trump won.  And we have the Russians to thank for pulling the curtain back for all to see.  They did us a favor really, and it was easier for them than nuking us if she'd won.

 11/27/2017 11:45 AM
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worksuxgetsponsered

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any sane person would have voted Gary Johnson over Hillary. Not sure how the tangerine tornado even ended up in the discussion


I fixed it with a little wrksux twist........

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 11/27/2017 12:24 PM
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Sniper

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You guys have lost it. Officailly f'ing lost it.

You guys think that 3-5 years ago the Russian government knew that Donald Trump would win the GOP primary in 2016?

Did any of you even read what WG posted? It literally tells you nothing.

Initially you thought that Donald Trump colluded with Wikileaks, who colluded with Russians, to release real dumbass emails, written by real dumbass Democrats. Then you said that Trump may not have colluded but his campaign did. Now you guys are saying that the Russians knew that Trump would win 5-10 years ago, so they have been working on setting this up since then. LOL

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 11/27/2017 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Sniper You guys have lost it. Officailly f'ing lost it. You guys think that 3-5 years ago the Russian government knew that Donald Trump would win the GOP primary in 2016? Did any of you even read what WG posted? It literally tells you nothing. Initially you thought that Donald Trump colluded with Wikileaks, who colluded with Russians, to release real dumbass emails, written by real dumbass Democrats. Then you said that Trump may not have colluded but his campaign did. Now you guys are saying that the Russians knew that Trump would win 5-10 years ago, so they have been working on setting this up since then. LOL
Do you realize Putin has been courting Trump since the 80's. Do you realize Trump took out ads in newspapers to bash Reagan about foreign relations (Russia)? Putin did not know anything would happen, but he tried for a very very long time and now has an ace in the hole. Also, do you think it is a coincidence that Trump bashes US International news outlets the same day Putin bashes american news outlets overseas?
 11/27/2017 12:48 PM
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theglide

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I smell a nice kettle of hot and steamy Earl Grey brewing..........

cranky, Zeus and Snipes don't throw away those "Don't tread on me" T-shirts, they're coming back.

The "Keep the government's hands out of my Medicare" one is worth a fortune!

 11/27/2017 01:51 PM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: Sniper You guys have lost it. Officailly f'ing lost it. You guys think that 3-5 years ago the Russian government knew that Donald Trump would win the GOP primary in 2016? Did any of you even read what WG posted? It literally tells you nothing. Initially you thought that Donald Trump colluded with Wikileaks, who colluded with Russians, to release real dumbass emails, written by real dumbass Democrats. Then you said that Trump may not have colluded but his campaign did. Now you guys are saying that the Russians knew that Trump would win 5-10 years ago, so they have been working on setting this up since then. LOL
Do you realize Putin has been courting Trump since the 80's. Do you realize Trump took out ads in newspapers to bash Reagan about foreign relations (Russia)? Putin did not know anything would happen, but he tried for a very very long time and now has an ace in the hole. Also, do you think it is a coincidence that Trump bashes US International news outlets the same day Putin bashes american news outlets overseas?


Trump has managed over 500 companies in over two dozen countries. Lots of people have been courting him since the 80's.

The majority of American news outlets deserve to be bashed. Most of them have been reduced to propaganda. It is for this reason that people's confidence in the ability of American new outlets to report the news without trying to shape the news, has been on the decline for over 20 years.

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“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 11/27/2017 03:13 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Sniper
Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: Sniper You guys have lost it. Officailly f'ing lost it. You guys think that 3-5 years ago the Russian government knew that Donald Trump would win the GOP primary in 2016? Did any of you even read what WG posted? It literally tells you nothing. Initially you thought that Donald Trump colluded with Wikileaks, who colluded with Russians, to release real dumbass emails, written by real dumbass Democrats. Then you said that Trump may not have colluded but his campaign did. Now you guys are saying that the Russians knew that Trump would win 5-10 years ago, so they have been working on setting this up since then. LOL
Do you realize Putin has been courting Trump since the 80's. Do you realize Trump took out ads in newspapers to bash Reagan about foreign relations (Russia)? Putin did not know anything would happen, but he tried for a very very long time and now has an ace in the hole. Also, do you think it is a coincidence that Trump bashes US International news outlets the same day Putin bashes american news outlets overseas?
Trump has managed over 500 companies in over two dozen countries. Lots of people have been courting him since the 80's. The majority of American news outlets deserve to be bashed. Most of them have been reduced to propaganda. It is for this reason that people's confidence in the ability of American new outlets to report the news without trying to shape the news, has been on the decline for over 20 years.
Spoken like a true Nazi.
 11/27/2017 03:15 PM
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theglide

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to report the news without trying to shape the news, has been on the decline for over 20 years.


True, Faux Entertainment has been in existence for 21 years.
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