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Topic Title: White House scandal explodes: Dozens of Trump officials lack full security clearance!!!
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 02/12/2018 07:33 AM
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Washington - Thirty to 40 White House officials and administration political appointees are still operating without full security clearances, including senior adviser to President Donald Trump Jared Kushner and -- until recently -- White House staffer Rob Porter, according to a US official and a source familiar with the situation.
The White House claims that the backlog of interim security clearances is a procedural consequence of the review process carried out by the FBI and White House Office of Security, which can take time to complete.
But several sources, including intelligence officials who have served previous Democratic and GOP administrations, describe the backlog as very unusual and make clear that the process should have been completed after a year in office.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/09/...-clearances/index.html

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 02/12/2018 07:42 AM
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Check all that apply:

___   FBI conspiracy

___   Rougues gallery possibly not participating and multiple lies/fibs found extending the reviews (this does happen)

___   Complete incompetence of current administration

 

 

 02/12/2018 08:26 AM
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RustyTruck

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This is something that would have been unconscionable under any previous R or D administration.

But the new GOP tribe will mostly ignore it I suspect.

I'll be on the lookout for any R's who come forward to protect the country.



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Which is scarier - that Trump doesn't read his daily intel briefing, or that Jared Kushner does?

https://www.washingtonpost.com...utm_term=.69c7880fd5fb

It is hard to tell what should be more worrisome: the fact that the commander in chief doesn't bother to read his daily compilation of the nation's most urgent intelligence, or the fact that his son-in-law - who has been unable to obtain a security clearance - does.

Those two stories were three pages apart in Saturday's print edition of The Post.

On the front page, my colleagues Carol D. Leonnig, Shane Harris and Greg Jaffe reported that Donald Trump is the first president since Richard M. Nixon not to regularly review the document known as the President's Daily Brief, the distillation of information picked up around the world by U.S. intelligence agencies.

Jared Kushner's inability to get a permanent security clearance, for reasons that are not entirely clear, has become a source of vexation at the White House. But in the meantime, he has a temporary status that allows him to "see materials, including the President's Daily Brief, that are among the most sensitive in government," they wrote...


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But the new GOP tribe will mostly ignore it I suspect.

Yep.

Not only will they ignore, but they will defend Trump's actions and make excuses.

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 02/12/2018 08:49 AM
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Seems like this should be more of a concern than the private email server thing.
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The Repugs already did what they were paid for. Giving massive tax cuts to those that need it least. They don't have to do anything else. They're set for life.
 02/12/2018 09:12 AM
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That's what you think, Slimy.

Next will be a trend that has been growing in conservo states: making someone getting public assistance in any form to get a job. Meaning, there are a bunch of people who can't work or can't get jobs or don't live in areas where there are jobs, and boom, 40 or 50% are cut from the rolls. Insta-savings.

Then, social security will be privatized: meaning Wall Street is now in the game bigger than ever.

Finally, the VA goes away and with it enters private insurance, for profit hospitals and profit to those who write the laws.

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Coleslaw is a complete blithering IDIOT!

He just cant stop lying his ass off!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11...ner-trump-family.html

http://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2...earances-presidential/

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Driving more Americans deeper into poverty and hopelessness just makes the revolution inevitable.

For a century, "welfare state" capitalism has kept things in a sort of balance. Corporate Dems and organized labor forced the capitalists to share enough to maintain a sizeable middle class and keep the "American Dream" alive.
Since Reagan, the conservatives have essentially defeated organized labor and supported policies which accelerated the upward transfer of wealth.

Democrats have been utterly ineffective in mounting significant resistance, probably because they represent the same corporations who now sell to global markets and no longer need an American middle class.

I've been shocked by the resurgence of all flavors of socialist theory among the youth/students of my son's generation. They run the gamut from Marxist/Leninist/Maoists (state communism) to anarcho-syndicalist/communist (libertarian communists if you will). They are all over the place, but one theme is clear, a large segment of the youth no longer sees capitalism as sustainable or desirable.

I should start a new thread, I know I've gone off topic; perhaps I can steer it back by staying that there is a school of thought on the left that trump is a good thing the way a wild fire is good for new growth in the forest.

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 02/12/2018 10:01 AM
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Start a new one      I thought that things were going to smooth out but they seem to be splintering

 

 02/12/2018 11:19 AM
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Sadly, it has been backed up for a long long time in regards to doing investigations, polygraph (depending on clearance), and issuing the clearance. Even renewing my clearance, which is far easier than issuing a new one, took a year longer than it was supposed to. It was supposed to be done in March 2015 and wasn't completed until May 2016. I was basically working with an expired clearance for several months. This has been a common and widespread problem for years. I mean sure blame Trump for last year or so of this mess, but you will also need to blame Obama for it as well because it greatly predates the current president.
 02/12/2018 11:58 AM
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Having an overdue Background Investigation does not mean you lost your clearance.   When you lose your clearance you wil be notified in writing that your clearance is revoked and no longer valid.  Also JPAS and other tools will reflect that you lost your clearance.    Going longer than the designated time for phased periodic reinvestigations is fairly common and has been for at lest two decades.   

 

Interim clearances have limits - holders cannot access certain types of information at the level of their interim clearance, if at all, depending on the subject  (Reference DOD 5220.22).



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 02/12/2018 12:23 PM
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I don't think it is the responsibility of the applicant to work on his clearance. The people in charge of granting or denying are at fault. Grant the clearance, or deny it. Somebody is not doing their job, get rid of them.
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3rdworldlover

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shutdown, slowed-down, under-staffed and shitty pay
Who wants that job?
 02/12/2018 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by: chopola

I don't think it is the responsibility of the applicant to work on his clearance. The people in charge of granting or denying are at fault. Grant the clearance, or deny it. Somebody is not doing their job, get rid of them.


Been a problem for years. On what grounds would you claim someone isn't doing their job? Sometimes inability to keep up with demand is caused by something other than that ya know.
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We're not talking about government contractors over at Harris, we're talking about the staff of the White House.

A year in, those checks should be complete, unless there's some reason one might not want them to be complete.

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 02/12/2018 12:36 PM
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You would think. 18 months in and my new hire still doesn't have his clearance.
 02/12/2018 12:38 PM
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chopola

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

shutdown, slowed-down, under-staffed and shitty pay

Who wants that job?



There are lots of people that would love those jobs.
 02/12/2018 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by: chopola I don't think it is the responsibility of the applicant to work on his clearance. The people in charge of granting or denying are at fault. Grant the clearance, or deny it. Somebody is not doing their job, get rid of them.

Maybe, but it is the applicant's responsibility to provide complete and accurate information on the SF-86, and apparently at lest a few in the WH didn't. 

So, since they didn't provide complete and accurate information you are saying they should be denied?



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