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Created On: 04/17/2018 08:10 AM
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 04/21/2018 07:29 PM
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fishkller

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Theres a meme for that.. step up your game!!




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 04/25/2018 07:15 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: onegoodturn hmmm, they were going to a real estate convention. dressed like that?

 

Painted a couple of rooms in our house while it was raining this weekend. I stopped at Sugar Shack in paint spattered cloths for a coffee red velvet cake doughnut on the way to Home Depot for another can of paint. People do sometimes go out in public in paint spattered clothing.

Did you know that they were meeting a realtor and that they were working on a property in the area as opposed to your suppositions?

 



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 08/08/2018 09:35 AM
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scombrid

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Let's revisit how Miker and Jonny approached that Philadelpia Starbucks case. Miker and Jonny said those guys were being assholes and loitering after being asked to leave. They even question the guys' story about being their to meet a business associate. But the people that were there said that the guys asked for the bathroom key and then sat down and that was it. The people that were there said that a jogger came in and used the bathroom without buying anything. The people that were there said that multiple people were just hanging around for extended periods. The guy that was meeting them to talk about the property they were working on showed up in the video of them being escorted out. But Miker and Johnny just doubled right on down with the assumption that these guys made some kind of scene. But they always consider all the facts and a fair and balanced way.

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 08/08/2018 10:27 AM
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miker

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Geesh scombrid. Did you get so triggered in that other thread that you had to bring this one back from the dead?

As I mentioned to you in the thread where you posted this exact same thing, you are wrong to lump me in with Johnny as much of what you posted didn't apply to me. You are also now being temporally disingenuous as well.

Not at all. I agree with you that there is still bias and racism in this country. However, it is a place of business and they weren't doing business there. Whatever reason they were asked to leave is irrelevant at that point. What proof do you or anyone else for that matter have that racism was involved in this incident outside of a bunch of other angry people that 'say' it is? For fucks sake, I don't even use a gas station bathroom on a road trip without buying something from the store. What is so hard about buying a $2 coffee if you are going to hang out there for a while? The truth is, nothing is hard about it. Refusing to do business there followed by refusing to leave when asked was nothing more than these two being an asshole and trying to create a situation.


I also made some posts about how it is wrong to always assume racism and about how people are no longer given the benefit of the doubt.

By the way, did you ever find out if the manager was actually racist? As more facts came out after the original posts, it sure seems like she had unconscious bias.

Edited: 08/08/2018 at 10:30 AM by miker
 08/08/2018 10:28 AM
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Cole

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What's the matter Mike, don't like to be proven wrong?
 08/08/2018 10:31 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: Cole

What's the matter Mike, don't like to be proven wrong?


Not sure what you mean, I wasn't proven wrong about anything.
 08/08/2018 10:33 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: miker As I mentioned to you in the thread where you posted this exact same thing, you are wrong to lump me in with Johnny as much of what you posted didn't apply to me. You are also now being temporally disingenuous as well.
I can go through the thread and find you correcting his mistakes then?

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 08/08/2018 10:37 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: scombrid

I can go through the thread and find you correcting his mistakes then?


Don't play logical fallacy games with me Scombrid.
 08/08/2018 10:38 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: miker Is there a history at this Starbucks of black people only being asked to leave if they weren't paying customers?
Witnesses said these two guys were singled out. Witnesses said a white jogger popped in, got the key, used the restroom, and then left without buying anything. Can't know for sure the motivation of the store manager. But we all know what that looks like; unless all the witness are lying for some reason.
If this was proven to be racist in nature, why did the black officer on the scene allow them to be handcuffed and escorted off the premise?
Not his job to make such judgments once called.
If this was clear cut discrimination, why is the black police chief supporting the actions of his officers?
They did their job.

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 08/08/2018 10:44 AM
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I already called you out for playing temporal games with me Scombrid.

If you want to go the route you are, then you need to correspond the timing of my posts with the timing of information as it came out and was generally known. The situation was fluid.



Edited: 08/08/2018 at 10:44 AM by miker
 08/08/2018 11:04 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: miker Why exactly? My wife and I were asked to leave a busy cafe while on vacation until the rest of our party showed up to make room for other customers. We stepped outside as asked and waited for her parents and brother to show up. Nobody got arrested. So two guys waiting for someone get asked to leave because they weren't ordering anything in a busy Starbucks. Rather than doing what they were asked to do, they decided to be assholes and refused. They were then escorted off the premises for trespassing by police. So what exactly the problem? Having extra melanin content is now an excuse to be an asshole? Edit: To be fair, I usually step outside *anyways* unless it is raining if I am waiting for someone is a business is crowded. I guess common courtesy isn't so common.
Looks like the opening post of the thread was a foregone conclusion.

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