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 08/12/2018 06:24 AM
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dingpatch

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From the For What it's Worth department. . . . .

Can't find the original link now, maybe you can help.

But, while everybody is still howling about Russia getting into the DNC server and perhaps Clinton's, , , , there is an un-talked about point in regard to Clinton's email server.

It seems that in all of the "30,000" emails there is an unlisted, foreign, recipient that they were also sent to and it Was Not Russia. It seems that the email server was not hacked "after the fact", but that it had already been hacked and all new emails were automatically copied to the foreign address of the unlisted recipient. China?

True? False?
 08/12/2018 10:24 AM
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Like anyone gives a shit when we have a traitor in the WH?

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 08/12/2018 11:32 AM
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Cole

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The Clinton server was never hacked.
 08/12/2018 11:53 AM
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KeyserSoze

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So, in short, one of the lead investigators in the Clinton email case apparently learned that
a foreign entity was getting all Clinton's emails - including many that contained classified
information - and ... did nothing.


link

In 2012, according to server records, a hacker in Serbia scanned Clinton's Chappaqua server at least twice, in August and in December 2012.

link


No sense looking for that, 'cause we don't care about all that now!
Probably just more fake news






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 08/12/2018 01:34 PM
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Opening post conflates the confirmed Russian hack of the Democratic National Committee with the controversy over Clinton's private email server that she was using while acting as Sec. of State. And yes, security of her private server (or lack thereof) is a real concern. But it is still a different story from the DNC hack.

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dingpatch

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But, then again, , , , the Russians may have done all kinds of things to the DNC. BUT, then again, who here is so simple minded to think that ONLY the Russians ever did such a thing? Hell, a group of teenagers in Pakistan could have pulled off a better hack.
 08/12/2018 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch

But, then again, , , , the Russians may have done all kinds of things to the DNC. BUT, then again, who here is so simple minded to think that ONLY the Russians ever did such a thing? Hell, a group of teenagers in Pakistan could have pulled off a better hack.


That is just laughably stupid.
Maybe a 400 lb dweeb drinking mountain dew too, right alt breit dimwit?
Can pakistan put a human in orbit? Can they build advanced weapons systems?
Nope. Dumfuk towelhead dorks, who only have nukes cuz chumps buddies the koreans handed it to them.
It's the russians, dimpatch......wise up

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 08/12/2018 06:41 PM
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Hey, hey, hey, , , , come on now, , , , we aint talkin rocket science, just the DNC.
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And we could go on about khan and pakistan's nuke program. Does anyone actually think a pakistani islamist anti science towel head actually came up with a design for a nuke? Like teller, fermi, sakharov? Oppenheimer?
And now it turns out our florida election systems have been compromised. Hmm, who could possibly be behind that?
Your boy chump has been laundering money for russian criminal gangsters in miami and new york since the 90's. In other words:
Putin already has in place a paramilitary group of thugs, ex kgb and spetsnaz operatives. Wanna know where they live?
Why, chump branded properties, of course.
Who could possibly have an interest in interfering in America's electoral processes to benefit their traitorous benefactor and landlord? And themselves and putin? A fat guy on a couch?
Either you wake up, wise up. And stand up to defend our priceless constitution and electoral systems.
Or you are a stinking traitor.....
It's happening now, folks


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 08/13/2018 04:46 AM
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Cole

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Probably just more fake news

Even if it is real, it's non consequential; Clinton is now a private citizen who has zero effect on, in and around Washington.

You have to admit the story is strange: 'Oh, it's going to a different server, but we aren't going to bother finding out where it is and who controls it.' That seems a tad strange, doesn't it? Now don't get me wrong, if Clinton was intentionally colluding with a foreign power, she should be held accountable, though her email debacle did cost her the election and that's a pretty severe penalty in itself.

We do know the DNC was hacked and the hacked information was released by Wikileaks. The hacker was Russia, Trump publicly asked them to hack more and Trump's adviser was seen coming from the embassy where Assange lives... and Assange is the head of Wikileaks. Trump is president. Shouldn't you be concerned that the sitting president of the United States might have achieved his status through the workings of a hostile foreign government?



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Dingbat caught in a time machine. Twitler's apprentice records conversations in the "secure" White House. Seems maybe security breaches may be more prevalent in the fast food eating high turnover Trump administration? Of course they are!

Yeah the White House is secure with the crazies in there currently...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/omarosa-trump-news-situation-room-recording-security-concerns-john-kelly-white-house-a8488746.html

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 08/13/2018 06:51 AM
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The top secret meeting at Mar a Lago!



Yea but Clinton's email. lol
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Is Trump's phone an open recording device?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/2...er-security/index.html
 08/13/2018 10:20 PM
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Always this whataboutism now.
They don't even try to pretend or prove that the LSoS didn't commit treason by conspiring with Russian State and oligarchy operatives to skew the election in his favor with massive campaign of lie promotio, effectively targeted via identity data theft.

Some at the top of the pile have likely been told what Mueller's got, they know how bad it's gonna be.
All they can do is demonize the truth finders and law enforcers. And they aggressively divert attention away from the Trumpian shit mountains of theft and lies to Clinton's molehills of aggressive protection of her man.
Oh, yea her emails. LOL

This is gonna get real good.

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 08/14/2018 06:58 AM
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I continue to be amazed at how so many seemingly otherwise intelligent people can still be bickering and fretting over this political BS like spoiled children, when it has become so painfully obvious that the whole lot of them are corrupt and crooked as hell. Anyone and everyone with any integrity has gotten, or is getting out of the swamp and no one up there can be trusted anymore. They all say one thing and do another, and are solely focused on their party's control and investigating or obstructing their opposition. You have to admit their job is no longer about constitutional governance or what's best for the nation. To make matters worse, the far left and the far right have begun to wage war on anyone and anything they think is leaning moderate, and both sides have proven they will eat their own for it. Both are rapidly becoming equally fascist, hypocritical and hateful. No good can come from any of it either, regardless of who come out on top. Be it a sharp turn right or a sharp turn left, tyranny and dictatorship are in our future unless we stop fueling this nonsense. And let there be no doubt we the people are fueling it and fanning the flames as they grow.
 08/14/2018 07:18 AM
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I continue to be bored by those that throw their hands up after they come to the conclusion that they can't do anything, criticize everyone else, and then offer no solution.

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Russian Collusion: It Was Hillary Clinton All Along
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Russia Investigation: It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.

That's the stunning conclusion of a RealClear Investigations report by Lee Smith, who looked in-depth at the controversial June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between officials of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign staff and a Russian lawyer known to have ties with high-level officials in Vladimir Putin's government.

The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.

But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup - part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.

Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted.

But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.

Memos, emails and texts now in Congress' possession show that the Justice Department and the FBI worked together both before and after the election with Fusion GPS and their main link to the scandal, former British spy and longtime FBI informant Chris Steele.

As a former British spook in Moscow, Steele had extensive ties to Russia. That's why he was picked as the primary researcher to compile the "unverified and salacious" Trump dossier, as former FBI Director James Comey once described it.

Steele's dossier, for which Fusion reportedly received $1 million, was largely based on interviews with Russian officials. And who paid that $1 million? As we and others have reported, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, then under Hillary's control.

The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.

The great irony here is that, after more than two years of investigating, the only real evidence of collusion with Russians at all points to Hillary Clinton. It was she who hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump using Russian sources.

But now, it turns out, it goes even deeper than that.

Events surrounding that now-famous June 2016 Trump meeting suggest it, too, was a concoction of Hillary Clinton and her deep-state allies. And that meeting was the basis for much of the later Russian collusion "investigation," if it can even be called that.

Bruce Ohr, the No. 4-ranking official at the Justice Department, "coordinated before, during and after the election" with both Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and with Steele, notes Smith.

This shouldn't come as a surprise, given that Ohr's wife Nellie, a sometime employee of the CIA, was also working for Fusion GPS.

The FBI fired Steele in October 2016 after it discovered that he leaked information to the press. But that meant nothing. Bruce Ohr merely continued as the conduit from Fusion GPS for information related to Steele's bogus Trump dossier.

The FBI and Justice used information from that 35-page document as the pretense for the FISA wiretap on Trump aide Carter Page. Far from being limited in scope, those wiretaps in essence provided a backdoor key to the entire Trump campaign - and the basis for the Russian investigation.

So far so good.

But an earlier investigation by RealClearPolitics showed that as early as March 2016, the FBI, other Western intelligence sources and Clinton campaign operatives contacted the Trump campaign about potentially damaging information about Clinton.

They were in effect live-trolling the campaign.

This is significant. Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Putin-connected lawyer who contacted the Trump campaign about having dirt on Hillary Clinton, was a client of Fusion GPS when she met with Donald Trump Jr. and others in the Trump campaign.

And she was accompanied by a former Soviet military counterintelligence official, now working as a lobbyist, named Rinat Akhmetshin.

Let that sink in for a moment.

What's especially curious is that GPS' Glenn Simpson admits he had dinner with Veselnitskaya both the night before and the night after the Trump Tower meeting.

Any possibility there was no discussion of the meeting between the two? Seems highly unlikely. Veselnitskaya herself subsequently claimed that the talking points for her meeting with the Trump people were provided to her by Simpson.

Once in the meeting, she quickly dropped the promises of having dirt on Hillary Clinton and instead brought up Russia's long-standing desire to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, under which the U.S. imposed sanctions on a number of Russian moguls and government officials.

In short, they were baiting a trap for the Trump campaign to make it appear as if they were colluding with Russian officials.

Given the nonstop media coverage following leaks by the FBI and Justice, it seems the meeting served its purpose: It sowed the seeds of suspicion about the Trump campaign's supposed Russian collusion.

The evidence goes even deeper than what we have summarized here. We suggest you read Smith's piece, linked above.

Congress, using the documents it pried out of the Justice Department after repeated requests, is busy getting at what might turn out to be the scandal of the century. And Congress is now doing the work the Justice Department and FBI won't.

"So here you have information flowing from the Clinton campaign from the Russians," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes told Fox News on Sunday.

Was Hillary The Real Colluder?

Nunes, who heads Congress' investigation into the matter, said it was likely that information "was handed directly from Russian propaganda arms to the Clinton campaign, fed into the top levels of the FBI and Department of Justice to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a political campaign that has now colluded (with) nearly every top official at the DOJ and FBI over the course of the last couple years. Absolutely amazing."

We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.

As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign - aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality.
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