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3rdworldlover

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Pathetic

 08/19/2018 09:27 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Rudy was wrong to assume it will only be Comey's much more credible testimony vs. Trump's lies. Whitehouse counsel, Don McGahn has been shoring up the obstruction case by interviewing with Mueller.

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08...ler-investigation.html
 08/19/2018 12:29 PM
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Rudy Rudy, Rudy...damn that was hard to watch. "The truth isn't the truth" and "Don't do this to me!"

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 08/19/2018 02:52 PM
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Yup

The 9/11 Nosferatu sure sold his soul to the highest bidder.

Hope you got a good price Ghouliani..


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 08/20/2018 06:53 AM
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Greensleeves

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But slime balls are still slime balls
 08/20/2018 06:58 AM
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miker

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Wasn't his point basically that someone's truth from their perspective might be different from someone else with a different perspective. Not making excuses for him, but it sure seems like that is what he was trying to say.

Yeah truth is truth, but a perspective doesn't always provide the full truth.

Edited: 08/20/2018 at 06:59 AM by miker
 08/20/2018 07:10 AM
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Thanks for trying Miker but:

"When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well, that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth. Not the truth," Giuliani said Sunday.

"Truth is truth," Todd replied.

"No, no, it isn't truth," Giuliani said. "Truth isn't truth. The President of the United States says, "I didn't ..."

"Truth isn't truth?" Todd interjected. "Mr. Mayor, do you realize, what ... I think this is going to become a bad meme."

"No, no, no ... don't do this to me," Giuliani said.

"Don't do 'truth isn't truth' to me," Todd continued.

"Donald Trump says I didn't talk about (former national security adviser Michael) Flynn with (then-FBI Director James) Comey. Comey says you did talk about it. So tell me what the truth is," Giuliani said.
 08/20/2018 07:33 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves
Thanks for trying Miker but:

"When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well, that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth. Not the truth," Giuliani said Sunday.


Right. I watched the interview and what you quoted supports what I said. Ghouliani also immediately recognized that what he said was going to be taken in a way it wasn't meant, so did Todd.

Edited: 08/20/2018 at 07:34 AM by miker
 08/20/2018 08:26 AM
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I don't think he could have picked a more sloppy way to try to say that testimony is not truthful.

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 08/20/2018 08:31 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Hard work, lawyering for that jackass.
 08/20/2018 08:48 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: scombrid

I don't think he could have picked a more sloppy way to try to say that testimony is not truthful.


No doubt about that.
 08/20/2018 08:59 AM
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"When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well, that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth. Not the truth," Giuliani said Sunday.

Makes no f-ing sense. He's saying his client is a liar.
 08/20/2018 09:04 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves it's somebody's version of the truth. Not the truth,"
That is what he really meant to say and it us just about as bad as the meme-able sound bite, just not as blatantly silly and meme-able. Filed in the same drawer as Conway's alternative facts.

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 08/20/2018 09:13 AM
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 08/20/2018 10:23 AM
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johnnyboy

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Rudy impersonating Kelly ann? I guess a law degree and a NYC pedigree make the stupidest sounding attempt at relativism sound better than it did coming from Kelly Ann conjob. Someone should tell Rudy that he is inching very close to complete absurdity with every appearance. I would like to see a Meet the Press with both Rudy and Kelly Ann claiming alternate facts and the truth is not the truth with an internet meme counter going at the bottom, like the GOP used to do for the national debt clock.

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 08/20/2018 11:51 AM
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Whether someone attended a meeting or not is not a matter of perspective. Whether someone had a priori knowledge of some thing is not a matter of perspective. It is a yes or no. This isn't six blind men of Indostan grasping at various parts of an elephant. And even if it is, each can still testify truthfully about what he experienced. The man who felt the ear can truthfully declare "I grabbed something that felt like a fan" without risk of committing perjury.

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