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Topic Title: Massive America First Rally, 1939
Topic Summary: Madison Square Garden
Created On: 10/29/2018 06:40 AM
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 10/29/2018 06:40 AM
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3rdworldlover

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 10/29/2018 06:49 AM
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miker

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Q: What relevance does a 79 year old, pre-holocaust event have to do with modern society in this country.

A: None
 10/29/2018 07:05 AM
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HAPDigital

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Complacency is as complacency does...
 10/29/2018 07:11 AM
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3rdworldlover

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A white nationalist playing the part of victim of the press while speaking of making America great again as the crowd worships symbols of the nation

Never seen anything like it
 10/29/2018 07:24 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover
A white nationalist playing the part of victim of the press while speaking of making America great again as the crowd worships symbols of the nation

Never seen anything like it


What are you afraid of? Nazi's and white supremacists gaining actual power in this country and causing a second holocaust? That would never happen, period.
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3rdworldlover

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Also, foreign actors posing as American patriots before a mob longing to be fooled. That's happening now, on a much larger scale on social media, manipulating fears of immigrants and whatever else to divide and foster hatred.



*Fred Trump, or Drumph was it?, allegedly among other notables in attendance.

Edited: 10/29/2018 at 07:31 AM by 3rdworldlover
 10/29/2018 07:35 AM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: miker Q: What relevance does a 79 year old, pre-holocaust event have to do with modern society in this country. A: None
You seriously don't see parallels to some of the shit that's occurring in this country? C'mon maaan
 10/29/2018 07:41 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Apparently, mass genocide has to happen again before people see that really bad shit was happening all around them.
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He might come around when they make him touch the lamps..

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"Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it."



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miker

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Originally posted by: jdbman

"Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it."


Knowing history is exactly why we won't repeat it.
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You are some whacked out dudes. But, for my purposes, I heavily encourage you progs to keep comparing us voters to Nazis. That's the kind of think that gets our side out to the voting booths in droves.
What are you afraid of? Nazi's and white supremacists gaining actual power in this country and causing a second holocaust? That would never happen, period.
It might under progs. That is what they want, when you get down to it.
"Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
Yes, but Germany had a very different history than us. Virtually nooe of the factors that led to Hitler exist here.

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miker

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Originally posted by: Plan B
You seriously don't see parallels to some of the shit that's occurring in this country? C'mon maaan


Are you afraid that somehow <1% of the population that consists of some sort of white supremacy group is going repeat history? Won't happen.


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miker

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Apparently, mass genocide has to happen again before people see that really bad shit was happening all around them.


Silly comment, really.

Are you afraid of a mass genocide in this country? Honestly? LOL
 10/29/2018 08:29 AM
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miker

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover
Also, foreign actors posing as American patriots before a mob longing to be fooled. That's happening now, on a much larger scale on social media, manipulating fears of immigrants and whatever else to divide and foster hatred.


If you want to address hate, then you need to take a few steps back and address *all* of it. That hate in this country doesn't follow party lines....
 10/29/2018 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by: miker

Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover



Apparently, mass genocide has to happen again before people see that really bad shit was happening all around them.




Silly comment, really.



Are you afraid of a mass genocide in this country? Honestly? LOL



My point is that bad things are already happening, enabled by a self-proclaimed nationalist manipulating the masses with disinformation, nationalist propaganda, and repeatedly calling the media and political opponents the enemy of the government.

I never proclaimed we are heading for genocide. Looks more likely that we'll just kill each other, mostly with stupidity.
 10/29/2018 08:56 AM
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Yeah bad things are happening. Trump is a demagogue. How exactly is raising the specter of Nazi ideology helping the divide in this country? How about the gross generalizations I have seen people make comparing conservatives to Nazi's ? Also, I hope you don't think for a second that Trump has the market on manipulating the masses cornered. Disinformation and manipulation of people has been going on for quite a long time. Sensationalism, partisan reporting, spin, and prioritization of commercialism over the truth is long running issue that greatly predates Trump.
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scombrid

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Yeah the infection has been festering for a long time. Trump and his rallies are an infection gone septic. Those rallies and Alex Jones following represent >1% of the population. Just because someone doesn't label themselves a Nazi doesn't mean that their nationalistic fervor fed with Trump's brand of conspiracy theories and fear mongering isn't analogous to the type of jingoistic fervor that the original Nazi's used to rise to power.

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Originally posted by: miker How about the gross generalizations I have seen people make comparing conservatives to Nazi's ?
The conservatives need to do more to speak up. When Alex Jones got kicked off youtube and twitter there was an outcry that those platforms were censoring "conservative voices". Accepting Jones and people like him as a "conservative voice" should be unacceptable for anyone that calls himself a conservative. Surely conservatives can figure out how to defend free speech without accepting people like Alex Jones into the "conservative" tent. But you know, they don't. You read it and hear it all the time. They decry censorship of "conservative voices" every time somebody like Alex Jones does something crazy and gets the ban hammer on some platform. Our 2ndlight microcosm is an example. You see any conservatives telling FK to shut up with the Birther nonsense? Nope. As far as I am concerned they are all birthers until they start correcting the loons.

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 10/29/2018 09:30 AM
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Some people are so deeply ensconced in their bubble of privilege, that it's absurd to them that the breakdown of civil society happening around them can ever effect them personally.



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