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Topic Title: The Bolsheviks are Here
Topic Summary: History Repeating?
Created On: 03/06/2019 09:14 AM
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 03/06/2019 09:14 AM
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Zeus

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2019 in the US is all the sudden starting to look way too much like 1917 Russia, with Vladimir-Ocasio-Lenin playing the Bolshevik lead roll. If you don't know Russian Revolution history, now would be a good time to study it before this country reaches the tipping point where we can't help but repeat it. Because if we do, we're historically only about 3 years from our very own Joseph Stalin. I don't think even the farthest left progressive wants that. Do you?
 03/06/2019 10:51 AM
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tpapablo

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That's exactly what they want. Not our garden variety progs here. They are assuming that for the first time in history a socialist take over would be different and that paradise will be at hand. They are merely the useful idiots that Lenin spoke of. But those at the top want to be our Stalin and have every intention of being one. The problem is that we have a Constitution that forbids the taking private property without paying for it. So, that would stop socialism here in its tracks. Thus, they will have to proclaim a dictatorship to get rid of the Constitution. Venezuela would be the better example. That's exactly what they did there and what they want to do here.

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theglide

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Medical coverage and raising the minimum wage is Joseph Stalin, yet you see no parallel with what's going on now and Italy's Benito Mussolini?

Please..........................



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johnnyboy

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You should actually read history instead of having some chicken little tell you what it means. The irony is that this is a surf forum and you know nothing of the serfs.

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 03/06/2019 12:27 PM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: theglide Medical coverage and raising the minimum wage is Joseph Stalin, yet you see no parallel with what's going on now and Italy's Benito Mussolini? Please..........................
That's not socialism. By its definition, socialism entails the state seizing the means of production. I assume that this is what the socialists want. And, no, I see absolutely no parallel between the U.S. now and italy back in the 1920's. Zero. As of yet, Trump has not formed a secret police, outlawed opposition parties or done away with the constitution.

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 03/06/2019 12:41 PM
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Cole

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Trump is the closest thing the US has ever had to a dictator.

Two hour ranting speeches, desires for a state news service, division through fear and intimidation, purposeful leaks to dictate the narrative, attacks on our allies, closed door meetings with autocrats, funding from oligarchs, attacks on the judiciary, questioning voter security, self rule through memo and executive order.

No, we don't need history books, you need to look into the mirror at the person that elected this Banana Republic kook.

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RustyTruck

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You guys crack me up. As the furthest left 2nd Lighter, as soon as the shooting stops I expect to be appointed political commissar of the people's beaches. Tpap, I'll try to get you into a nice gulag since you're occasionally coherent and interesting. Zoos I'm afraid won't be so lucky.



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nukeh2o

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Yep, they're here alright. They live in chump branded properties in sunny isles beach and new york City, aka little moscows.
Two of fat mcdonnie's 3 bimbo wives are native speakers of russian.
They contribute laundered money to, and have memberships in: the current traitorous version of the once proud nra
These two goober chumpgoons have about as much knowledge of the disgraced homophobic homosexual drug addicted lying failure of a senator named Joseph McCarthy as they do the Russian revolution.
They wouldn't know an actual Bolshevik from a gerbil enema.
duhh

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Edited: 03/06/2019 at 01:10 PM by nukeh2o
 03/06/2019 01:37 PM
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Sniper

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About damn time Trump starts slow-walking and stalling at every opportunity.

Enough is enough.

This isn't soviet Russia. In America, we investigate crimes, not people. You accuse someone of a crime, then investigate to determine whether or not they are guilty. You don't just investigate someone until you find something to pin on them. These tactics would put most people behind bars for something.

"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria, Joseph Stalin's longest-serving secret police chief



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 03/06/2019 01:44 PM
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Cole

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The Trump clan can't be bothered with laws.

Want proof? Look at the string of convictions.

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wbsponger

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Originally posted by: Sniper About damn time Trump starts slow-walking and stalling at every opportunity. Enough is enough. This isn't soviet Russia. In America, we investigate crimes, not people. You accuse someone of a crime, then investigate to determine whether or not they are guilty. You don't just investigate someone until you find something to pin on them. These tactics would put most people behind bars for something. "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria, Joseph Stalin's longest-serving secret police chief
Yeah thats how the Republicans got Bill Clinton convicted on those Whitewater related charges
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3rdworldlover

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Hilarious
 03/06/2019 02:23 PM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck You guys crack me up. As the furthest left 2nd Lighter, as soon as the shooting stops I expect to be appointed political commissar of the people's beaches. Tpap, I'll try to get you into a nice gulag since you're occasionally coherent and interesting. Zoos I'm afraid won't be so lucky.
Thanks, man.

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Sniper

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Originally posted by: wbsponger

Originally posted by: Sniper

About damn time Trump starts slow-walking and stalling at every opportunity.



Enough is enough.



This isn't soviet Russia. In America, we investigate crimes, not people. You accuse someone of a crime, then investigate to determine whether or not they are guilty. You don't just investigate someone until you find something to pin on them. These tactics would put most people behind bars for something.



"Show me the man and I'll show you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria, Joseph Stalin's longest-serving secret police chief


Yeah thats how the Republicans got Bill Clinton convicted on those Whitewater related charges


There might be some truth to what you say but without Linda Tripp taping Lewinsky and going to authorities with what she learned, I'm not sure that Clinton would have had any problems. Lewinsky was trying to get Tripp to perjur herself in the Jones v. Clinton suit to cover up Lewinsky's relationship with Clinton. This stuff just fell in the Republicans' laps and then Clinton stepped in it.

In Trump's case, no one has come forward with anything except the Stormy Daniels stuff, which Cohen pretty much took off the table in his hearing last week. Just lots of looking for it.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 03/06/2019 03:33 PM
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LOL the irony of Zuess posting a Bolshevik comparison when the usual 2L clowns cry any time a dictator parallel is mentioned.. is apparently lost on.him.

Websters needs to add Zuess alongside Tpattycake's entry under 'ironic'

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 03/06/2019 04:31 PM
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nukeh2o

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Irony? What a riot
Howzabout these profoundly ignorant chumpfdirts blathering bullshit about "bolshevik" influence in america
That was spoon fed to them by RT and GRU bot propaganda sources.......again
Aka: "bolshevik" russian government created and maintained misinformation channels.
You chump idiots are laughably stupid, easily led and controlled, traitorous sheep......mmmbbaahaahh
Putin's sponsorship of loofa boy has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams.
Because of you dimwits
duuhhhh......

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Edited: 03/06/2019 at 04:43 PM by nukeh2o
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theglide

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That's not socialism.


Thank you tpap.
 03/06/2019 04:50 PM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: theglide

That's not socialism.




Thank you tpap.


Good catch. Although Medicare is "socialist" in the sense that there is public ownership and accountability for the finance part.
But, it's not socialized delivery of care. Your care is between you and the provider. M4A just means you can see who you want, and you won't go broke if you get sick or lose your job.

Sound good? Even better, it's CHEAPER than the current system.


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Edited: 03/06/2019 at 04:50 PM by RustyTruck
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johnnyboy

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If you ask what is greatest threat to the concentration of wealth into the fewest hands, the answer is taxes. That is why the super wealthy seek anarchy. This labeling and villainizing of socialism is just anti government propaganda aimed at preventing the richest one percent of our citizens from paying for health care.

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 03/06/2019 05:32 PM
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3rdworldlover

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We'll certainly end up just like Venezuela and the USSR if we have public health insurance and universities, trains and windmills. Never mind that Trump has more in common with Maduro and Putin than any other politician in US history.
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