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Topic Title: Crisis? What Crisis?
Topic Summary: We ain't got no stinking crisis
Created On: 04/03/2019 05:32 AM
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 04/04/2019 11:35 PM
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Greensleeves

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Yes asylum laws have thresholds for proof. Not everyone gets through that hurdle.

I do not agree that we can't reduce the flow of people with aid. This is real and worth trying. We are good at exploiting and it is coming back to f with us. Are we good at humanitarian assistance? The GOP sure as he$$ isn't they barely want to help people here.

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 04/05/2019 04:10 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Easy to say when you're descendents of people who came when there were no immigration laws.



Most of these people are native Americans. They were in the Americas before Columbus. Now colonists want to put up a fence and tell them they don't belong here.


I'm all for them coming here, LEGALLY. If they want to form caravans to intentionally overwhelm our facilities, and exploit our laws, so they can be released into the U.S. to await the asylum hearing that they have no intention of ever going to, then they need to be taught a lesson.
 04/05/2019 04:16 AM
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RustyTruck

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It is LEGAL to seek asylum. The rest of what you said is faux propaganda. It's not for you to decide if an asylum claim is legitimate. Send judges instead of a stupid wall.

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 04/05/2019 04:18 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Easy to say when you're descendents of people who came when there were no immigration laws.



Most of these people are native Americans. They were in the Americas before Columbus. Now colonists want to put up a fence and tell them they don't belong here.




These are two completely different places and have SEVERAL countries in between...with THEIR OWN BOARDERS!

You're a SERIOUS idiot!

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Edited: 04/05/2019 at 04:19 AM by Fish Killer
 04/05/2019 04:22 AM
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Fox sent a "reporter" down there to stand next some ICE agents in body armor, like a cosplay actor. The ICE agents interviewed didn't have body armor. Leave it to fox to pretend the border is war zone. Literally no one else thinks so. Governors have even refused to send their state's national guards.

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 04/05/2019 04:24 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Fox sent a "reporter" down there to stand next some ICE agents in body armor, like a cosplay actor. The ICE agents interviewed didn't have body armor. Leave it to fox to pretend the border is war zone. Literally no one else thinks so. Governors have even refused to send their state's national guards.


The Border Agents wear body armor.....for a good reason.

Idiot.

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 04/05/2019 04:26 AM
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RiddleMe

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck It is LEGAL to seek asylum. The rest of what you said is faux propaganda. It's not for you to decide if an asylum claim is legitimate. Send judges instead of a stupid wall.
yup legal at a port of entry to seek asylum. not legal to cross the border without permission. truth is most dont quality for asylum. these are the laws we have now, nothing more. to change that, the laws need to change first
 04/05/2019 05:03 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Zeus

Pretty sure there would have been a lot done if not for stonewalling by the loony left majority in the House. I agree a wall is not the answer, but I also contend wide open boarders aren't either. When political posturing is more important than the nation's best interest, its a sure sign our government is totally FUBAR, with the emphasis on BAR.


Have you even bothered to see the attempts at southern border immigration reform over the last two decades? It sure as shit isn't Democrats doing the blocking.

If you want to see the guilty party, look in the mirror.

 04/05/2019 05:31 AM
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Sniper

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Mexico and South America aren't sending doctors and engineers. They are sending unskilled/uneducated people. The United States isn't really manufacturing that many products these days. Farming and most other industries are in the process of automating as much as possible. Do you Democrats see the demand for these unskilled jobs in the United States going up or down in the future? It would appear that Democrats have absolutely zero foresight. Either that or Republicans can be for air and water and you will be against it.
 04/05/2019 05:35 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole
It sure as shit isn't Democrats doing the blocking.


LIAR!

http://www.investors.com/polit...emocrats-open-borders/

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Edited: 04/05/2019 at 05:40 AM by Fish Killer
 04/05/2019 06:56 AM
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Greensleeves

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No country is "sending" anyone. Low skilled jobs? Huh? Of course they will go up with population.

Minnow muncher posts something from Irritable Bowel Daily as some sort of truth.

The truth is this country feeds off of illegals whether they are Democrat or Republican.


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 04/05/2019 07:07 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

No country is "sending" anyone. Low skilled jobs? Huh? Of course they will go up with population.

Minnow muncher posts something from Irritable Bowel Daily as some sort of truth.

The truth is this country feeds off of illegals whether they are Democrat or Republican.


What jobs for unskilled workers are you saying are growing at the pace of illegals entering the country?

That may be true. We need to stop the bleeding and figure out who is here. Without doing both of those, we are driving blind. We are writing checks like crazy but never balancing the checkbook. We are just hoping. It is a recipe for disaster.
 04/05/2019 07:14 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

It is LEGAL to seek asylum. The rest of what you said is faux propaganda. It's not for you to decide if an asylum claim is legitimate. Send judges instead of a stupid wall.


yup legal at a port of entry to seek asylum. not legal to cross the border without permission. truth is most dont quality for asylum. these are the laws we have now, nothing more. to change that, the laws need to change first


"most dont quality for asylum"

When did you become an immigration judge?

Truth is, your generalized opinion on the merits of refugee status is completely irrelevant.

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 04/05/2019 07:22 AM
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RiddleMe

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so are yours. what is your point? your opinion is no more and no less valid than mine. anyhow, i wasnt suggesting they not be given their day in accordance with the law. however they have to follow the law, which means going to a port of entry instead of crossing illegally. that part is clear and not a matter of opinion, can we agree on that?

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 04/05/2019 09:44 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: RiddleMe

so are yours. what is your point? your opinion is no more and no less valid than mine. anyhow, i wasnt suggesting they not be given their day in accordance with the law. however they have to follow the law, which means going to a port of entry instead of crossing illegally. that part is clear and not a matter of opinion, can we agree on that?


I don't believe I've offered an opinion in this thread. You seem to be trying to argue against some position I haven't taken.

Zoos is worried about "caravans". Those people are presenting themselves at points of entry and being mistreated.

You're questioning the merits of asylum claims in general terms, and I'm reminding you that it's up to a judge to decide.


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 04/05/2019 11:27 AM
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RiddleMe

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what sort of response do you expect when you are hostile like that? if you arent interested in opinions then you are in the wrong place. this forum is almost all opinion. thanks for reminding about due process though, not sure why you felt the need to given i mentioned that already, but you do you bro
 04/05/2019 02:12 PM
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RiddleMe

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really we arent that far apart rusty. we should probably just agree to disagree on the minor differences and focus on the macro
 04/06/2019 04:53 AM
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Cole

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If the president of the country doesn't bother with e-verify, why should anyone else?
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