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Topic Title: 100,000 Americans Die from Air Pollution
Topic Summary: Trump continues to roll back regulations
Created On: 04/09/2019 01:02 PM
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 04/09/2019 01:02 PM
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Cole

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More than 100,000 Americans each year die of heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses caused by air pollution spewed from factories, motor vehicles and even bucolic-seeming farmland, according to a new report that contradicts an EPA panel whose members downplayed the risks during a public meeting last month.

http://www.usnews.com/news/nat...pollution-study-finds


78 Environmental Rules on
the Way Out Under Trump

Since his first days in office, President Trump has made eliminating federal regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as overly burdensome to the fossil fuel industry, including major Obama-era policies aimed at fighting climate change.


http://www.nytimes.com/interac...nt-rules-reversed.html

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 04/09/2019 05:22 PM
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Human wrecking ball!
 04/09/2019 09:44 PM
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republicans don't want clean air, or a clean indian river lagoon.

they need a wall.

a wall is all that matters.
 04/10/2019 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole More than 100,000 Americans each year die of heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses caused by air pollution spewed from factories, motor vehicles and even bucolic-seeming farmland, according to a new report that contradicts an EPA panel whose members downplayed the risks during a public meeting last month. http://www.usnews.com/news/nat...ollution-study-finds 78 Environmental Rules on the Way Out Under Trump Since his first days in office, President Trump has made eliminating federal regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as overly burdensome to the fossil fuel industry, including major Obama-era policies aimed at fighting climate change. http://www.nytimes.com/interac...nt-rules-reversed.html
If true, which I doubt, they would have been exposed to those pollutants during the Obama years. You don't just breathe in a whiff of pollutant and get a heart attack. The damage takes place over time. Thus direct your impotent rage toward Obama. Remember your favorite saying on the economy? Thanks Obama? Well, here you go. As far as undoing regulations, all I can say is that he hasn't done enough and needs to keep going. If suspending the rule that having a mud puddle on your property makes it a wetland for federal purposes gives people heart attacks, so be it.

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 04/10/2019 07:37 AM
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Cole

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Understated as always. The shit kills people. Doing less is not the answer.

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Come tpapsmear, your failure to understand a long term connection says more about you than the fact that it's happening.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy Come tpapsmear, your failure to understand a long term connection says more about you than the fact that it's happening.
I do understand that we have one of the best environmental records of any country in the world, we have clean air and water, and that the EPA under Obama was hurting our economy for no tangible environmental gain. I also know that progs are liars. And it is a lie that Trump is doing anything to degrade our environment. How do you progs like to put it? Ah yes, he is taking "common sense" (ironically, progs have less common sense than any other humans in existence) steps regarding stupid environmental restrictions. But you guys seemingly know how to use the internet. Post on here all instances where the environment has deteriorated due to anything that Trump has done. Prove me wrong.

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Even my dog knows not to shit where she sleeps.

Future generations will curse us all for greed and hubris.

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The numbers tell a different story. Perhaps that's why we use data instead of comparisons.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

The numbers tell a different story. Perhaps that's why we use data instead of comparisons.


What happens when someone alters the data...for decades?

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Even my dog knows not to shit where she sleeps. Future generations will curse us all for greed and hubris.
No they won't. I don't curse earlier generations who polluted far, far more than we do. Seriously, what kind of nut would do that?
The numbers tell a different story. Perhaps that's why we use data instead of comparisons.
Well, I invited you to post data. Show us the data.

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Welcome to "the greediest generation"


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I am amused by some far right types that are up in arms about the algae blooms in Florida waters but that turn around and cheer for further weakening of EPA oversight of "Waters of the United States". That weakening basically gives the Phosphate mines a green light to do whatever the hell they want, downstream folks be damned. The right wing sportsman here want MOSAIC STOPPED but they vote to gut EPA, DEP, etc... They want LESS REGULATION but they are pissed off that "The State" won't stop construction of a road or development that happens to go through a patch of countryside that they like.

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I am amused that progs are screaming like little school girls about things getting worse under Trump but cannot provide any proof. I can be persuaded on this if there is evidence. But I haven't come across any. If something or other was only, 4 ppm under Obama and is now 5 ppm, that should be easy to find. So, let's have it, girls.

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Don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

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Originally posted by: Cole

More than 100,000 Americans each year die of heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses caused by air pollution spewed from factories, motor vehicles and even bucolic-seeming farmland, according to a new report that contradicts an EPA panel whose members downplayed the risks during a public meeting last month.



http://www.usnews.com/news/nat...ion-study-finds





78 Environmental Rules on

the Way Out Under Trump



Since his first days in office, President Trump has made eliminating federal regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as overly burdensome to the fossil fuel industry, including major Obama-era policies aimed at fighting climate change.





http://www.nytimes.com/interac...nt-rules-reversed.html


More babies are maimed and ripped from wombs yet you are concerned about pollution?
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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Originally posted by: Cole



More than 100,000 Americans each year die of heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses caused by air pollution spewed from factories, motor vehicles and even bucolic-seeming farmland, according to a new report that contradicts an EPA panel whose members downplayed the risks during a public meeting last month.







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78 Environmental Rules on



the Way Out Under Trump







Since his first days in office, President Trump has made eliminating federal regulations a priority. His administration, with help from Republicans in Congress, has targeted environmental rules it sees as overly burdensome to the fossil fuel industry, including major Obama-era policies aimed at fighting climate change.











http://www.nytimes.com/interac...nt-rules-reversed.html




More babies are maimed and ripped from wombs yet you are concerned about pollution?



You'd prefer to kill them slowly with poisoned air

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In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".
 04/11/2019 05:19 AM
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Cole

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http://www.usnews.com/news/hea...so-do-er-visits


What is Trump doing to decrease this risk? That's the point.

Here is a real world example.


http://www.scientificamerican....lute-waterways/



And then there are Mercury emissions.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...sary/ar-BBRxEb9


Fortunately, Trump has little to no understanding of the law, so a great deal of his destructive agenda has been held in check by the courts, but for how long.

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Edited: 04/11/2019 at 05:53 AM by Cole
 04/15/2019 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo



Originally posted by: Cole







More than 100,000 Americans each year die of heart attacks, strokes and other illnesses caused by air pollution spewed from factories, motor vehicles and even bucolic-seeming farmland, according to a new report that contradicts an EPA panel whose members downplayed the risks during a public meeting last month.















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More babies are maimed and ripped from wombs yet you are concerned about pollution?






You'd prefer to kill them slowly with poisoned air

If they are allowed to breathe they have a chance, seems you prefer murder and mayhem in the womb or out as it may be


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RustyTruck

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I prefer to mind my own business, as should you.

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