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Fish Killer

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Controversial Steele dossier back in spotlight after Mueller report's release
By Adam Shaw

Did Mueller's team know Steele dossier was biased?

With Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia report now out in the open, attention is likely to return in coming weeks to the salacious and unverified anti-Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele -- a dossier whose more sensational claims were not substantiated by Mueller's team.

The dossier, funded by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign, sent shockwaves through the country and the halls of power in D.C. when it was published in January 2017, complete with lurid tales of a sex tape featuring prostitutes that the Russian government was said to be holding over President Trump's head.

But despite an intensive two-year investigation, Mueller's team found no evidence of any such tape. It also said it didn't have evidence of another claim in the dossier that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen met with Russian officials in Prague.

The New York Times, in a lengthy article on the Steele dossier's current standing, noted that there is no evidence in the Mueller report on a number of claims: "DNC moles, Romanian hackers, Russian pensioners -- or years of Trump-Putin intelligence trafficking." But a lawyer for Fusion GPS, the firm that commissioned the dossier, told The Times that the Mueller probe backed up "the core reporting" in the Steele memos -- including that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed "a covert operation" to have Trump elected.

Now, with a redacted version of Mueller's report public and pressure building for the release of an unredacted version, attention is set to turn toward the investigation by DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who confirmed at a panel discussion in March that his office is continuing to review potential surveillance abuses by the FBI. That review began last March, and Fox News was told last month that it's nearing completion.

At the heart of the controversy over the Steele dossier is not just how reliable its contents were, but also what role it played in the FBI's application for a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) warrant against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. Horowitz has said he will address the question of whether the FBI followed all "legal requirements" when applying for that warrant.

Politico reported Wednesday that Horowitz's team has been "intensely focused on gauging Steele's credibility as a source" for the FBI. One official told the outlet that he had the impression that the IG report "is going to try and deeply undermine" Steele.

Republicans in Congress have long focused on the dossier, claiming that it formed the origins of what became Mueller's Russia investigation. They and the president have noted in particular the dossier's funding by the DNC and Clinton campaign.

"You can't have the FBI using one party's opposition research document to launch an investigation and spy on the other party's campaign," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said on "Cavuto Live" on Saturday.

On Thursday, California Republican Devin Nunes told Fox News' Sean Hannity that the report shows that the dossier also formed part of the memo that established the scope of the special counsel's investigation.

"On Carter Page and [former Trump campaign chairman] Paul Manafort, that information came from political opponents, the Clinton campaign fed right into the FBI, directed to the special counsel to go investigate what was in the infamous Steele dossier," Nunes said. "That is the only thing of relevance that was in today's 450-page report."

According to Politico, Steele intends to rebut the IG's characterizations in the form of a rare public statement, but he has declined to be interviewed -- citing the potential impropriety of his involvement in an internal Justice Department investigation as a foreign national.

The Times, meanwhile, reports that Steele made it clear to associates in 2017 that he considered the dossier to be raw intelligence -- a starting point for further investigation.

The IG probe isn't the only investigation where the Steele dossier may face scrutiny. Attorney General William Barr told lawmakers that he intends to review FBI and DOJ conduct during the formative days of the Russia investigation -- where the Steele dossier played a role.

Trump, meanwhile, has pledged to "get to the bottom" of the origins of the Russian probe, and has promised to "turn the tables" and investigate the investigators -- which could include closer scrutiny of the role that Steele's infamous dossier played.

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 04/21/2019 05:31 AM
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Butter email!

Benghazi!


Man, is this playbook getting old.

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 04/21/2019 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Butter email!



Benghazi!





Man, is this playbook getting old.


The IG probe isn't the only investigation where the Steele dossier may face scrutiny. Attorney General William Barr told lawmakers that he intends to review FBI and DOJ conduct during the formative days of the Russia investigation -- where the Steele dossier played a role.

Trump, meanwhile, has pledged to "get to the bottom" of the origins of the Russian probe, and has promised to "turn the tables" and investigate the investigators -- which could include closer scrutiny of the role that Steele's infamous dossier played.



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I see you replaced phony with biased. That's a nice concession. How does it feel to know that your traitor in chief avoided indictment because all of the best and brightest he hired refused to carry out his crazy old man directives. Enjoy that victory lap.

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 04/21/2019 08:07 AM
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This report says the FBI had a dozen good reasons to investigate. That's just a fact.

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Originally posted by: Cole

This report says the FBI had a dozen good reasons to investigate. That's just a fact.


Were talking the actual 'probable cause' for the FISA Court to get the numerous warrants to SPY on Trump!

The Steel Dossier is FUCKING FAKE!

MORON!

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The facts say otherwise.

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 04/21/2019 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

The facts say otherwise.


Your FAKE facts!

Got ant REAL facts?

The Steel Dossier is a PROVED FAKE!

FACT!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/pa...res-why/#c504e3668674

http://www.washingtontimes.com...sier-charge-unverifie/

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Edited: 04/21/2019 at 03:28 PM by Fish Killer
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Russia, Russia, Russia, all the while ignoring the plain fact that getting "dirt" on your political opponent, from any source, is totally fair game in American politics.

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I got my facts from the mueller report.

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 04/21/2019 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I got my facts from the mueller report.


Liar!

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If only you could read.

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 04/22/2019 04:25 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I got my facts from the mueller report.


You haven't listed any facts.

Idiot!

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I watched 3rd do it with quotes directly from the mueller report and you reacted predictably and consistently. Making you deny, overlook and flat out lie about that info again seems redundant to me but maybe you and your new messiah can contemplate what he meant when he said circle jerk. Like many of your responses, they are a demonstration.

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 04/22/2019 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I watched 3rd do it with quotes directly from the mueller report and you reacted predictably and consistently. Making you deny, overlook and flat out lie about that info again seems redundant to me but maybe you and your new messiah can contemplate what he meant when he said circle jerk. Like many of your responses, they are a demonstration.


3rd hasn't posted on this thread.......or anything about the FAKE Steel Dossier.

Go take another BIG hit off your crack pipe!

You need it!

Fool!

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Edited: 04/22/2019 at 05:24 AM by Fish Killer
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I got my facts from the mueller report.


Perfect. If the dossier was true and had some good dirt on Trump then I'm sure Mueller would have done his best to highlight it in his report. How could he not? Since it sounds like you can read and you read the report, does it sound like, based on what you read in the report, that the Mueller team put a lot of stock in the Steele dossier?

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

If only you could read.


Back at you....

Idiot!



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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Russia, Russia, Russia, all the while ignoring the plain fact that getting "dirt" on your political opponent, from any source, is totally fair game in American politics.


No, it isn't, hence the investigation.



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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: dingpatch



Russia, Russia, Russia, all the while ignoring the plain fact that getting "dirt" on your political opponent, from any source, is totally fair game in American politics.




No, it isn't, hence the investigation.


Well then how exactly did Killary get away with it?

Fool!


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The most important parts of Steele's work were verified by the Mueller report. There's records of conversations indicating the salacious peepee tape exists too.

There's over 100 pages detailing the shady contacts between Russian ambassadors, oligarchs, and spies.

Legal experts are still digesting the first 1/4th of the report. There's a lot of meticulously parsed details.
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