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Between 2007 and 2016, violent crime decreased slightly and similarly across most areas, regardless of whether the undocumented population rose or fell.

A large majority of the areas recorded decreases in both violent and property crime between 2007 and 2016, consistent with a quarter-century decline in crime across the United States. The analysis found that crime went down at similar rates regardless of whether the undocumented population rose or fell. Areas with more unauthorized migration appeared to have larger drops in crime, although the difference was small and uncertain.

Also: As of 2016, there were an estimated 10.7 million undocumented immigrants nationwide, down a million and a half since 2007.

http://www.nytimes.com/2019/05...tories&pgtype=Homepage
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Sorry, fellow, the NYT? You have to be kidding! They are the ones that were the primary driver of the Russian Collusion hoax. Thus, they have shown that they are happy to bias their coverage by personal or editorial beliefs. As the NYT has been pro-immigration, it is almost a certainty that this represents false reporting. I have used up my 10 free views of the NYT this month, so I couldn't look at the article or study. Otherwise, I'd point out the flaws in the study,

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The study was by the Marshall Project, and the results are consistent with similar studies by at least two other organizations.
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

The study was by the Marshall Project, and the results are consistent with similar studies by at least two other organizations.


So what!

If there were NO illegal immigrants there would be a lot less crime...let alone the 25 murders of United States Citizens committed currently by ILLEGAL ALIENS..... PER DAY!

FOOL!

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According to DHS status indicators, over 289,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and April 30, 2019, of which over 196,000 were classified as illegal aliens by DHS.
Over the course of their entire Texas criminal careers, these 196,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 481,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 1,040 homicide charges; 53,979 assault charges; 15,237 burglary charges; 61,917 drug charges; 726 kidnapping charges; 29,548 theft charges; 42,187 obstructing police charges; 3,598 robbery charges; 5,783 sexual assault charges; 7,065 sexual offense charges; and 6,938 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 220,000 convictions including 485 homicide convictions; 23,397 assault convictions; 7,924 burglary convictions; 31,971 drug convictions; 293 kidnapping convictions; 13,941 theft convictions; 21,219 obstructing police convictions; 1,980 robbery convictions; 3,048 sexual assault convictions; 3,780 sexual offense convictions; and 3,103 weapon convictions.

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By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, January 26, 2018
The crime rate among illegal immigrants in Arizona is twice that of other residents, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Friday, citing a new report based on conviction data.
The report, from the Crime Prevention Research Center, used a previously untapped set of data from Arizona that detailed criminal convictions and found that illegal immigrants between 15 and 35 are less than 3 percent of the state's population, but nearly 8 percent of its prison population.
And the crimes they were convicted of were, on the whole, more serious, said John R. Lott Jr., the report's author and president of the research center. His findings also challenge the general narrative that immigrants commit fewer crimes. Those past studies usually don't look at legal versus illegal populations, Mr. Lott said.
Mr. Lott said the Arizona data is able to peek behind that curtain, and the differences between the populations were stark.
"There appears to be a huge difference between the two groups," Mr. Lott said. "The type of person who goes through the process to legally immigrate in the United States appears to be very law-abiding versus even the U.S.-born population. The reverse is true for undocumented immigrants - they are committing crimes, and more serious crimes."
Among nearly 4,000 first- and second-degree murder convictions, undocumented immigrants accounted for nearly 13 percent - significantly higher than their percentage of the population. Legal immigrants, by contrast, were less than 1 percent of convicts. Native-born made up the rest.

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All are far lower rates than native born Americans in Texas.

The criminal conviction rate for native-born Americans in Texas was 2,116 per 100,000 natives in 2016 (Figure 1). The native-born criminal conviction rate was thus 2.4 times as high as the criminal conviction rate for illegal immigrants in that year and 7.2 times as high as that of legal immigrants.

http://www.texasgopvote.com/fa...tes-texas-2016-0010789
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They don't understand rates. I don't know why but they don't.

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I have posted this ad nauseum. dotard's simply do not have the intellectual capacity to process this type of info. it's the dumbing down of america at work...

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Originally posted by: wtf

I have posted this ad nauseum. dotard's simply do not have the intellectual capacity to process this type of info. it's the dumbing down of america at work...


You do realize that illegal immigrants are in fact fucking ILLEGAL...right?!?!

They arent supposed to be here!

Libtards just dont get it....I've posted it ad nauseum!

Libtards are already dumbing down America...with your BULLSHIT!

Illegal Aliens legally arent supposed to be here!

PERIOD!

Therefore their criminality isn't a comparison to anything other than the FACT that ALL of it shouldn't happen!

FOOL!

25 United States Citizens are killed EVERY DAY by foreign ILLEGAL people that dont belong here!

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TO END IT AND GET THESE ASSHOLES OUT OF OUR COUNTRY?!?!





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We need them to do the work Americans won't do. If you doubt me, please explain why they continue to leave all the migrant workers through out the US alone? Watermelons are in full harvest from Lake Wales to Okeechobee and there are buses full of workers. They are fish in a bus shaped barrel and easy pickings, if they are such a danger, why leave them alone?

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Originally posted by: Cole

We need them to do the work Americans won't do.


Thats a fucking lie!

Oh wait...that what you do!

IQ79 strikes again!

http://thenationalsentinel.com...ans-wont-do-is-a-myth/

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I can take you to a dozen farms and dairies to show you the truth and the link you posted says more than half of the farm workers are illegals, but that point is moot. There are bus loads of them all over Central Florida right now and ICE could clean them out at any time. If they are such a danger, as you and Trump proclaim, why aren't they swept up and deported?

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Originally posted by: Cole

I can take you to a dozen farms and dairies to show you the truth and the link you posted says more than half of the farm workers are illegals, but that point is moot. There are bus loads of them all over Central Florida right now and ICE could clean them out at any time. If they are such a danger, as you and Trump proclaim, why aren't they swept up and deported?


Yo...DUMBASS...

What part of...'IT"S A FUCKING LIE' dont you understand?!?!

IQ79 strikes again!

http://cis.org/Report/There-Ar...Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



I can take you to a dozen farms and dairies to show you the truth and the link you posted says more than half of the farm workers are illegals, but that point is moot. There are bus loads of them all over Central Florida right now and ICE could clean them out at any time. If they are such a danger, as you and Trump proclaim, why aren't they swept up and deported?




Yo...DUMBASS...



What part of...'IT"S A FUCKING LIE' dont you understand?!?!



IQ79 strikes again!



http://cis.org/Report/There-Ar...Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do


accounting for half or more of some types of farm laborers

- from your post

But again, that's not the point...they are all over Central Florida right now and could be rounded up with very little effort. Why is that not happening? According to Trump, they pose a constant danger, so wouldn't it make sense to round them up and deport them back to their home countries?

Or is there a reason they are left alone?

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Huh, I wonder why this happened?

http://www.politifact.com/flor...igration-law-florida/

A little bird says that Scott got a visit from the grove and farm owners.

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Politifact---liberal news source, totally biased!

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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: Cole







I can take you to a dozen farms and dairies to show you the truth and the link you posted says more than half of the farm workers are illegals, but that point is moot. There are bus loads of them all over Central Florida right now and ICE could clean them out at any time. If they are such a danger, as you and Trump proclaim, why aren't they swept up and deported?








Yo...DUMBASS...







What part of...'IT"S A FUCKING LIE' dont you understand?!?!







IQ79 strikes again!







http://cis.org/Report/There-Ar...Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do




accounting for half or more of some types of farm laborers



- from your post



But again, that's not the point...they are all over Central Florida right now and could be rounded up with very little effort. Why is that not happening? According to Trump, they pose a constant danger, so wouldn't it make sense to round them up and deport them back to their home countries?



Or is there a reason they are left alone?


Yo...SHIT FOR BRAINS!!!!!!

Taking one third of one sentence does NOT make facts!

It makes FAKE NEWS!

LIAR!

NEXT TIME POST ALL OF THE SENTANCE LET ALONE WHOLE PARAGRAPHS!!!!!!!

MORON!!!!!!!!!!!

"If immigrants "do jobs that Americans won't do", we should be able to identify occupations in which the workers are nearly all foreign-born. However, among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants (legal or illegal). Furthermore, in none of the 474 occupations do illegal immigrants constitute a majority of workers.
Notable findings:
Of the 474 civilian occupations, only six are majority immigrant (legal and illegal). These six occupations account for 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans still comprise 46 percent of workers in these occupations.
There are no occupations in the United States in which a majority of workers are illegal immigrants.
Illegal immigrants work mostly in construction, cleaning, maintenance, food service, garment manufacturing, and agricultural occupations. However, the majority of workers even in these areas are either native-born or legal immigrants.
Only 4 percent of illegal immigrants and 2 percent of all immigrants do farm work. Immigrants (legal and illegal) do make up a large share of agricultural workers - accounting for half or more of some types of farm laborers - but all agricultural workers together constitute less than 1 percent of the American work force.
Many occupations often thought to be worked overwhelmingly by immigrants (legal and illegal) are in fact majority native-born:
Maids and housekeepers: 51 percent native-born
Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 54 percent native-born
Butchers and meat processors: 64 percent native-born
Grounds maintenance workers: 66 percent native-born
Construction laborers: 65 percent native-born
Janitors: 73 percent native-born
There are 65 occupations in which 25 percent or more of the workers are immigrants (legal and illegal). In these high-immigrant occupations, there are still 16.5 million natives - accounting for one out of eight natives in the labor force.
High-immigrant occupations (25 percent or more immigrant) are primarily, but not exclusively, lower-wage jobs that require relatively little formal education.
In high-immigrant occupations, 54 percent of the natives in those occupations have no education beyond high school, compared to 30 percent of the rest of the labor force.
Natives tend to have high unemployment in high-immigrant occupations, averaging 9.8 percent during the 2012-2016 period, compared to 5.6 percent in the rest of the labor force. There were a total of 1.8 million unemployed native-born Americans in high-immigrant occupations.
The stereotype that native-born workers in high-immigrant occupations are mostly older, with few young natives willing to do such work, is largely inaccurate. In fact, 34 percent of natives in high-immigrant occupations are age 30 or younger, compared to 29 percent of natives in the rest of labor force.
Not all high-immigrant occupations are lower-skilled. For example, 38 percent of software engineers are immigrants, as are 28 percent of physicians.
A number of politically influential groups face very little job competition from immigrants (legal and illegal). For example, only 7 percent of lawyers and judges and 7 percent of farmers and ranchers are immigrants, as are at most 9 percent of English-language reporters and correspondents.1"

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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The difference between illegal and legal immigrants is their inability/ability to pay for citizenship.
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