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Topic Title: "We have what I would call a concentration camp system"
Topic Summary: “a mass detention of civilians without trial.”
Created On: 06/14/2019 08:35 AM
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 06/14/2019 08:35 AM
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3rdworldlover

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As soon as you get people comparing other groups to animals or insects, or using language about advancing hordes...it's creating the sense of this enormous threat. And that makes it much easier to sell to people on the idea we've got to do something drastic... The longer they're there, the worse conditions get.... As you see mental health crises and contagious diseases begin to set in, they'll work to manage the worst of it. [But] then there will be the ability to tag these people as diseased, even if we created [those conditions].

Pictures published with the report show women packed tightly together in a holding cell. We also observed detainees standing on toilets in the cells to make room and gain breathing space, thus limiting access to toilets," the watchdog wrote. This was at Paso del Norte, a facility near El Paso, which has a stated capacity of 125 detainees. But when DHS inspectors visited, it was holding 900. When migrants & asylum-seekers are transferred to ICE, things get worse. Queer and trans migrants face exceptionally harsh treatment, w/reports of high levels of physical and sexual abuse, & the use of solitary confinement - considered torture by many psychologists - is widespread."

http://www.esquire.com/news-po...Lo3oeMmNRNF_7M4P6TNjfA
 06/14/2019 09:08 AM
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dingpatch

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But truthfully, why in the world should we make someone who is here illegally comfortable?
 06/14/2019 09:20 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.
 06/14/2019 09:42 AM
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Sniper

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I see someone has never been to the Holocaust museum.

You don't enter a concentration camp on your own free will.

If it was that bad then people wouldn't walk all the way through Mexico for the pleasure of being admitted to it.
 06/14/2019 09:42 AM
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RiddleMe

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can they leave and go back home if they want?
 06/14/2019 09:53 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Only if they're Canadian or Europeans.
 06/14/2019 10:01 AM
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RiddleMe

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serious or no? they should be offered return back to the other side of the border if they choose at the very least
 06/14/2019 10:25 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Seriously.

They are detained indefinitely without any rights, per a recent ruling by the United States Supreme Court


https://www.npr.org/2018/02/27/589096901/supreme-court-ruling-means-immigrants-can-continue-to-be-detained-indefinitely
 06/14/2019 12:27 PM
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RustyTruck

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Who is or who is not "here legally" is a matter of state power, not morale authority.

These people being abused are more legitimately American than anyone on this forum.

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 06/15/2019 06:15 PM
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stokedpanda

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It's a real pickle, I don't know what private companies are involved but maybe there is a market for better care. Gov always messes it up

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 06/15/2019 07:06 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.


Is it illegal to shut down our failed immigration system and only let in the ones we want...vetted and medically and psychologically checked out?

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 06/16/2019 11:24 AM
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all3

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"ALL MEN are created EQUAL, with certain RIGHTS, Life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness "

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 06/16/2019 11:40 AM
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RiddleMe

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Originally posted by: stokedpanda It's a real pickle, I don't know what private companies are involved but maybe there is a market for better care. Gov always messes it up
sure privatizing the prison system worked out well. umm, yah. heh
 06/16/2019 11:53 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: all3

"ALL MEN are created EQUAL, with certain RIGHTS, Life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness "


You got that quotre WAY WRONG!

FOOL!

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

ALL MEN ARE NOT US CITIZENS!

MORON!

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Edited: 06/16/2019 at 11:55 AM by Fish Killer
 06/16/2019 12:28 PM
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all3

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our founding fathers said " ALL MEN". not all U.S. citizens

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"
 06/16/2019 01:01 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: all3

our founding fathers said " ALL MEN". not all U.S. citizens


Yeah but that is "that they are endowed by their Creator"

NOT the United States of America!

Citizens have rights here in the US....BUT not ALL people!

MORON!

One other thing....one actually has to HAVE a 'creator'....you and most of YOUR ILK dont recognize a 'creator'!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!

FOOL!

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Edited: 06/16/2019 at 01:03 PM by Fish Killer
 06/16/2019 01:22 PM
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all3

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MOM and Dad and the world we live in created me. I'm blessed.

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 06/16/2019 03:20 PM
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nukeh2o

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: all3



our founding fathers said " ALL MEN". not all U.S. citizens




Yeah but that is "that they are endowed by their Creator"



NOT the United States of America!



Citizens have rights here in the US....BUT not ALL people!



MORON!



One other thing....one actually has to HAVE a 'creator'....you and most of YOUR ILK dont recognize a 'creator'!



Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!



FOOL!


Weelll, ignorant madam Chicken Fish:
there you go again....
"All men are are created...." was part of the declaration of independence stupid fuck. There was no constitution yet, hence there werent any citizens yet.
They meant all race creed color dweeb. You know absolutely nothing of the history of the formation of our wonderful america from a group of ragtag former colonies. The smartest guys in world history then wrote our priceless constitution. Of which you know nothing, and dishonor every breath you take
You are a godless blasphemer, and a stinking lying trollbot traitor.
Your messiah is an evil, greedy, orange, philandering userer and money changer and laundering antichrist
In other words: he is everything the lord jesus opposed.
Which level of the inferno is waiting for you Mulleta Marinara?
duuuhhhuuuuh.....

 06/16/2019 04:42 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: all3







our founding fathers said " ALL MEN". not all U.S. citizens








Yeah but that is "that they are endowed by their Creator"







NOT the United States of America!







Citizens have rights here in the US....BUT not ALL people!







MORON!







One other thing....one actually has to HAVE a 'creator'....you and most of YOUR ILK dont recognize a 'creator'!







Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!







FOOL!




Weelll, ignorant madam Chicken Fish:

there you go again....

"All men are are created...." was part of the declaration of independence stupid fuck. There was no constitution yet, hence there werent any citizens yet.

They meant all race creed color dweeb. You know absolutely nothing of the history of the formation of our wonderful america from a group of ragtag former colonies. The smartest guys in world history then wrote our priceless constitution. Of which you know nothing, and dishonor every breath you take

You are a godless blasphemer, and a stinking lying trollbot traitor.

Your messiah is an evil, greedy, orange, philandering userer and money changer and laundering antichrist

In other words: he is everything the lord jesus opposed.

Which level of the inferno is waiting for you Mulleta Marinara?

duuuhhhuuuuh.....


YO....TWIT!

ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.....BUT IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN IF THESE UNITED STATES YOU GET WHAT COMES WITH CITIZENSHIP!


EVERYONE ELSE GETS BUBKUS!

EVERYONE ELSE GETS WHAT THEIR COUNTRY HAS TO OFFER ITS CITIZENS!

MORON!

IT":S CALLED BEING A SOVERIGN NATION!

FOOL!


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 06/16/2019 05:06 PM
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nukeh2o

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Fat, pus filled rotting fish. Sik......
You, and your treasonous herd of "elk" support a fat orange traitor who will sell American sovereignty to any foreign bidder. At my beloved America's expense.......
Your marinara sister/ love interest pigblo went back home to the foreign state of jojahstan
You two Stalinist vladdie pu lovers belong together
Now: get the fuck outta here.....
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