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Topic Title: Saul David Alinsky
Topic Summary: ..wrote Trump's playbook!
Created On: 07/19/2019 11:17 AM
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 07/19/2019 11:17 AM
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Cole

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Who would have thunk it!

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood.
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news.
8. "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem.
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
 07/19/2019 11:36 AM
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Cole

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Man, read it. This is Trump play by play.
 07/19/2019 11:44 AM
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Fish Killer

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Thats your 'squad' play book....taken from Obama and Clinton.

It's been known for a LONG time and published on this forum DOZENS of times.

Now claiming it's Trump's proves you the LIAR that you are!

Fool!

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 07/19/2019 12:18 PM
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fishkller

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Sounds like Trump to me.. nice find Lyin Fish

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 07/19/2019 12:30 PM
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tpapablo

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Good for Trump. We should be using prog tactics against them, as i have been for years.

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 07/19/2019 12:32 PM
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Fish Killer

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I forgot about that.

Brilliant!

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 07/19/2019 01:25 PM
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fishkller

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So now are saying it's Trump's playbook LOL

Mims Napoleon and Lyin Fish - birds of a feather

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 07/19/2019 01:42 PM
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johnnyboy

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Ah the shit bird and poisonous lyin fish rally around the wrong as the means that justify the ends.

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 07/19/2019 02:08 PM
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fishkller

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

...using prog tactics against them, as i have been for years.



You mean writing dumb trollposts on an obscure surfing forum where people just make fun of you all day?

You deserve a medal, Warrior!



Keep on pattin' Pattycakes.. toot toot!

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 07/19/2019 02:19 PM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: fishkller
Originally posted by: tpapablo ...using prog tactics against them, as i have been for years.
You mean writing dumb trollposts on an obscure surfing forum where people just make fun of you all day? You deserve a medal, Warrior! Keep on pattin' Pattycakes.. toot toot!
Progs making fun of me? "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Right? I'd be worried if ya'll weren't attacking me daily. As it is, I know I am making a difference. Mind you, I am generally dealing with mental Lilliputians and wish I had a better caliber of detractors so as to keep me sharper. But, you take what you get.

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 07/19/2019 05:08 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: fishkller

Originally posted by: tpapablo



...using prog tactics against them, as i have been for years.






You mean writing dumb trollposts on an obscure surfing forum where people just make fun of you all day?



You deserve a medal, Warrior!







Keep on pattin' Pattycakes.. toot toot!


Progs making fun of me? "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Right? I'd be worried if ya'll weren't attacking me daily. As it is, I know I am making a difference. Mind you, I am generally dealing with mental Lilliputians and wish I had a better caliber of detractors so as to keep me sharper. But, you take what you get.


What, all ten of us who read this forum?

That gets a big LOL.

 07/19/2019 06:50 PM
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fishkller

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I know he thinks my laughing at him means he's "making a difference" but..

..ah fuck it- it's just too fun to laugh at him..

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 07/19/2019 07:10 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: fishkller

So now are saying it's Trump's playbook LOL



Mims Napoleon and Lyin Fish - birds of a feather


You read worse that COLESLAW!

SHITFORBRAINS II

Originally posted by: Cole

Man, read it. This is Trump play by play.


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 07/19/2019 07:28 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: fishkller



So now are saying it's Trump's playbook LOL







Mims Napoleon and Lyin Fish - birds of a feather




You read worse that COLESLAW!



SHITFORBRAINS II



Originally posted by: Cole



Man, read it. This is Trump play by play.


Are you retarded?

Trump follows Alinsky's writings word for word. What the hell do you think I said?

 07/19/2019 07:31 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole


Trump follows Alinsky's writings word for word.


Thats a flat out bald faced fucking lie!

SHITFORBRAINS I

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 07/19/2019 07:38 PM
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Cole

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Read them, then think of Trump.

The same.

Thanks for pointing it out too.
 07/19/2019 07:40 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Read them, then think of Trump.



The same.



Thanks for pointing it out too.


Not the same...not even close.

Obama...yep!

Clinton?

Yep!

That makes you again....A....

LIAR!

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 07/19/2019 07:50 PM
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Cole

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I asked you to point out where Obama had done any of the things mentioned, you said nothing.

Dear dick head, saying shit over and over doesn't make it true.
 07/19/2019 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

I asked you to point out where Obama had done any of the things mentioned, you said nothing.



Dear dick head, saying shit over and over doesn't make it true.


President Obama slapped a stiff 35% tariff on Chinese tires in 2009 after American companies complained about unfair competition. They said China was flooding America with tires at low prices making it tough for U.S. companies to compete. The tire tariff gradually waned, and finally ended in 2012.
The tariff saved 1,200 U.S. tire jobs, which had been in sharp decline. And U.S. tire production rose after a major decline.

"Over a thousand Americans are working today because we stopped a surge in Chinese tires," Obama said in his 2012 State of the Union address.
Related: Trump and trade: What you need to know
But a study from the Peterson Institute of International Economics found that the tariffs cost Americans in many other ways.
Americans paid more for tires. Some Chinese-made tires cost as much as 26% more -- rising on average to $39 per tire, from about $31. And U.S. tire makers, facing less competition from China, also raised prices on American-made tires 3.2%.
According to Peterson's model, higher prices from the tire tariff cost Americans an extra $1.1 billion, which translated to an estimated 3,731 retail jobs lost.
Plus, China fought back by imposing penalties on U.S. shipments of chicken parts. The Peterson study estimates that China's retaliation cost American chicken producers $1 billion in sales.
"Tire safeguards did not change Chinese policies in a helpful way, nor did they boost U.S. employment," wrote Gary Hufbauer, a trade expert at Peterson, who authored the report.
Indeed, the tariffs didn't bring the tire-making jobs back to previous levels -- a similar trend that's played out for the rest of U.S. manufacturing. But they did help to stem the job losses.
In 2008, there were about 60,000 American workers making tires. Now, there are about 55,000. That's better than the low point reached in 2010 but not back to pre-tariff levels.
Related: Trump's 35% tariff on companies: Easier said than done
An Obama administration official, who requested anonymity, disputed some of the calculations and assumptions in the Peterson study. For instance, the official claimed tire prices did not go up by as much as the study claims.
Hufbauer said no one until now had contested any of his analysis in the four years since it was published. He noted that the administration official didn't provide an alternative estimate for price changes.
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney criticized Obama for the tariffs in his 2010 book "No Apology."
"President Obama's action to defend American tire companies from foreign competition may make good politics by repaying unions for their support of his campaign, but it is decidedly bad for the nation and our workers," Romney said.

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 07/19/2019 07:55 PM
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Cole

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So Trump knows tariffs will hurt the country, but says they are great anyway?

Thanks for proving my point! Fucking idiot.

LolololololoLOL!

LOLolololololoLOL!
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