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Topic Title: Gitmo cost benefit analysis...
Topic Summary: We do not get what we pay for.
Created On: 09/11/2019 04:16 AM
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 09/11/2019 04:16 AM
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johnnyboy

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This is shocking to anyone who ever thought a cost benefit analysis could save money, make a system more efficient or maybe set a deadline to stop broken system from going on forever.

http://www.npr.org/2019/09/11/...er-alleges-gross-waste

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 09/11/2019 06:49 AM
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Didn't Obama close that place? I now see that he didn't. He was one, POS president, wasn't he?

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 09/11/2019 07:08 AM
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That's what the current president says. I guess if they are both guilty of this same thing you're going to have to judge them both the same way.

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 09/11/2019 07:53 AM
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Give the animals an FMJ golden-ticket to meet some virgins and close it, then.
 09/11/2019 08:08 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy That's what the current president says. I guess if they are both guilty of this same thing you're going to have to judge them both the same way.
I don't judge them the same way. Obama was a horrible president. Trump is a great one.

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 09/11/2019 08:17 AM
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Trump is a great one.
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We should shut it down and put them in prison here. "Oh, no! We don't want Taliban on American soil" said all the crazy right wing paranoids.

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 09/11/2019 09:07 AM
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That's why KSM is in NY waiting for trial---Thanks odumbo!

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Like dropping a rock in still waters.


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 09/11/2019 09:45 AM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Didn't Obama close that place? I now see that he didn't. He was one, POS president, wasn't he?


Wasn't that when the entire congress was under the opuses of the Redumblicans?

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 09/11/2019 10:50 AM
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Did you ever imagine the USA stuffing private prisons full of thousands of people, to be held indefinitely without rights to trial or bond hearings, for minor immigration violations? Guantanamo Bay was the jumping off point and its case law was cited in recent court rulings enabling the current human rights atrocities occurring within our borders. Maybe firing squads will be useful if the recent intentionally cruel policy of ending vaccines for prisoners fails to kill off the population before an epidemic spreads to the general population. You know, many of the vaccines that keep us all safe, become ineffective in a major outbreak.

Edited: 09/11/2019 at 10:51 AM by 3rdworldlover
 09/13/2019 01:08 PM
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Cost benefit analysis.....................How many prisoners were released from Gitmo and went back to being terrorists................... How many People died because they were released...............How much money was saved by their release????...............If all you count is the cash money, you can find a definitive cost in lives per dollar saved..............If you count lives saved instead of money, then the dollar amount becomes insignificant...

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 09/14/2019 03:34 PM
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Yeah just let em go so they can blow more people up

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 09/14/2019 04:11 PM
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johnnyboy

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What 3rd said.

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 09/14/2019 04:23 PM
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Fish Killer

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What somebodyelse said.

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 09/14/2019 07:16 PM
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Cole

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Bring them to the US and try them in public courts. Billions saved.
 09/15/2019 05:04 AM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Yeah just let em go so they can blow more people up


You didn't read it.

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 09/15/2019 05:12 AM
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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

Cost benefit analysis.....................How many prisoners were released from Gitmo and went back to being terrorists................... How many People died because they were released...............How much money was saved by their release????...............If all you count is the cash money, you can find a definitive cost in lives per dollar saved..............If you count lives saved instead of money, then the dollar amount becomes insignificant...


Damn, this is cool. You think Medicare for all is the best way!

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 09/16/2019 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Didn't Obama close that place? I now see that he didn't. He was one, POS president, wasn't he?


Tfish, liar or uninformed?

I'll go with liar.

http://www.politico.com/story/...guantanamo-bay-233859



 09/16/2019 03:13 PM
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johnnyboy

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Obama one week before he left about the GOP's block to close it down: "They have placed politics above the ongoing costs to taxpayers, our relationships with our allies, and the threat posed to U.S. national security by leaving open a facility that governments around the world condemn and which hinders rather than helps our fight against terrorism."

So there's that.

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