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Created On: 10/10/2019 08:58 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Looking at jobs and deficits

Reagan: 15M jobs
$79B to $159B

Bush: 2M jobs
$153B to $255B

Clinton: 23M jobs
$255B to $128B surplus

Bush 1.5M jobs
$128B surplus to $1T debt

Obama 12M jobs
1.16T to $585B

Trump 5M jobs
$585B to $1.1T
 10/10/2019 10:32 PM
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Greensleeves

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Hey! That shows that twitler is second rate and that Dems are better than the GOP. Pretty good!
 10/11/2019 04:51 AM
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somebodyelse

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Reagan: debt.. $1T to $3T... Bush: $3T to $4.5T... Clinton: $4.5T to $6T... Bush: $6T to $12T... Obama: $12T to $20T... Trump: $20T to $22T... and now $600 Billion of that per year is PAYING INTEREST ON THE DEBT

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 10/11/2019 04:54 AM
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Obama, 12 million jobs over 8 years = 1.5 M jobs per year...Trump 5 million jobs over 3 years = 1.6 million jobs per year

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 10/11/2019 06:24 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

Obama, 12 million jobs over 8 years = 1.5 M jobs per year...Trump 5 million jobs over 3 years = 1.6 million jobs per year


Obama had to gain back those lost in the Bush recession. The US was shedding more than 500,000 jobs a month when Obama took office.

As we keep saying; Trump is average at best and that is with a $1.7 trillion tax cut stimulus.



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Edited: 10/11/2019 at 06:25 AM by Cole
 10/11/2019 06:56 AM
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wtf

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On top of that, latest jobs report was not good. Economy has been making it's turn south. Hope you dotards have some cash, but that is unlikely...

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 10/11/2019 07:11 AM
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4.7 million jobs under Trump in his first two years. That happened in a mature economic up cycle, not when recovering from a recession. One of the most amazing economic booms in our history. And progs want to tell you that it didn't happen. Why do they lie about these things, folks? Because they can't do them with their destructive policies. Remember under Obama, when he and his lackeys in the press were telling us that 1.5% growth was the "new normal," as good as it would get from here on out? A lie to cover their destructive policies. Remember, Obama telling us that manufacturing jobs were gone forever - "What's Trump have? A magic wand?" Well, Trump added 6 times the manufacturing jobs that Obama added in his last 2 years. Trump is a winner. They want you to wallow in misery, misery that they cause. We should all celebrate Trump's amazing record and the millions that he has lifted up.

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 10/11/2019 07:19 AM
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Cole

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Manufacturing jobs falling, wage growth slowing, debt exploding; how much more winning can we take?

Just imagine Obama's numbers if he had injected $1.8 trillion in a tax cut? Sorry T-fish, but that candle has burned and we are left with no where to turn. Trump tweets for useless little trade deals boost the Markets temporarily, but on the whole? Pretty listless. Wow, it's not looking too good.



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Edited: 10/11/2019 at 07:20 AM by Cole
 10/11/2019 08:10 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: Cole Manufacturing jobs falling, wage growth slowing, debt exploding; how much more winning can we take? Just imagine Obama's numbers if he had injected $1.8 trillion in a tax cut? Sorry T-fish, but that candle has burned and we are left with no where to turn. Trump tweets for useless little trade deals boost the Markets temporarily, but on the whole? Pretty listless. Wow, it's not looking too good.
Debt? Perhaps we shouldn't commit to spending an additional $100+ trillion in the next 10 years as progs want to do. See, folks, on one hand, they rail against the debt (though they actively supported Obama doing far worse), but yet want policies that will bury us in debt. But let's take these weasels at their word. Let's say Trump wanted to cut our debt and started cutting the federal gov't. You know and I know what they would do - they'd scream bloody murder about how we are ruining the country. This is how they work - with lies. Debt bad under Trump (which, of course, it is), but great when they are in charge. Don't buy their lies.

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 10/11/2019 08:13 AM
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Slash military spending, raise marginal rate to 80%, full fund Medicare for all and public university.

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 10/11/2019 08:20 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Republicans always explode spending on their favorite pork projects, "security," "defense," and prisons, the kind of spending with secret budgets and no accountability. Meanwhile, handing out tax breaks for the useless money shuffling scammers, as schools, infrastructure, parks, arts, research, environment and health goes to shit.
 10/11/2019 08:38 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Slash military spending, raise marginal rate to 80%, full fund Medicare for all and public university.
See? That would quintuple our debt. The medicare for all alone is estimated to cost $63 trillion of 10 years. Raising the tax rates on the top 1% to 80% wouldn't pay for 20% of that. Let's do the math. $63 trillion over 10 years equals $6.3 trillion/year. There are 1,400,00 people in the top 1% of tax payers. The average income of those folks is $1.3 million. Thus, the top 1% cumulatively makes $1.82 trillion/yr. 80% of that is $1.46 trillion. (Now, of course, no one will pay 80% of their income, but we will leave that for now). So, you will have to pay the other $5 billion/yr or it will go to debt. They will raise your taxes and take on more debt. They would have to. If they raised taxes to 100% on everyone, that still wouldn't cover medicare for all. It is a sham, folks. They will rob you blind and take over control of your entire life. Protest the debt? No surgery for you, buddy.

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 10/11/2019 09:44 AM
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somebodyelse

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We are PAYING $600 Billion per year in INTEREST ON THE DEBT.... Todays debt, the Debt we already owe...costs the tax payer... $50 BILLION PER MONTH... $50,000,000,000 Every month.

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 10/11/2019 01:25 PM
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wtf

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Originally posted by: somebodyelse

We are PAYING $600 Billion per year in INTEREST ON THE DEBT.... Todays debt, the Debt we already owe...costs the tax payer... $50 BILLION PER MONTH... $50,000,000,000 Every month.

Yup, another trump failure.


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