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 10/18/2019 11:28 AM
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Hillary Clinton Claims Russians 'Grooming' Tulsi Gabbard as Third-Party Candidate
National Review
Tobias Hoonhout
,National Review.October 18, 2019

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asserted that the Russians are attempting to undermine the 2020 election by backing Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) as a third-party candidate, stating "she's the favorite of the Russians."

Appearing on Obama campaign manager David Plouffe's podcast, Clinton made a number of claims regarding Russian meddling in U.S. elections, including that Gabbard's substantial social-media support relies on Russian bots. Gabbard was the most-searched candidate after the first and second Democratic debates.

"I think they've got their eye on someone who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said on the podcast. "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far."

Clinton's comments come after Gabbard called the coverage of her campaign by The New York Times and CNN "completely despicable" during the fourth Democratic debate Tuesday night.


"The New York Times and CNN have also smeared veterans like myself for calling to an end to this regime-change war," Gabbard told the crowd in Ohio. "Just two days ago, the New York Times put out an article saying I am a Russian asset and an Assad apologist and all these different smears. This morning, a CNN commentator said on national television that I'm an asset of Russia."

In August, Gabbard also told CNN that she would not run as a third-party candidate if she does not win the Democratic nomination.

Clinton also labelled Green Party candidate Jill Stein a "Russian asset" and suggested on the podcast that Gabbard is playing a similar role in this election.

"They know they can't win without a third-party candidate . . . I will guarantee you they will have a vigorous third-party challenge in the key states that they most needed," Clinton declared.

In the aftermath of Donald Trump's election, the Clinton campaign followed Jill Stein's demands for a recount in Wisconsin, which ultimately gave Trump 131 more votes.

"Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves, but now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides," campaign lawyer Marc Elias said at the time.
 10/18/2019 11:40 AM
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Sniper

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Looks like anyone who calls out the media bias will be labeled as a Russian asset. I don't think that the Democrats would ever allow someone who speaks out against the media to prevail in their primary. They would lie, cheat, steal, and potentially worse to prevent it. Gabbard is getting just a taste of what Trump has dealt with during his first term. If she gains popularity at all, then she will see what it's really like.
 10/18/2019 12:13 PM
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Whatever her diagnosis is, many of the progs have the same thing. One of those nuts is even calling me a "commie traitor." It almost seems like they are schizophrenics.

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 10/18/2019 12:44 PM
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RustyTruck

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Well folks around here are pretty confused about what and who are commies. I don't know why you guys are still worried about that old bat.

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 10/18/2019 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Well folks around here are pretty confused about what and who are commies. I don't know why you guys are still worried about that old bat.


Yep...the ONLY genuine commies on here are every one of the ones that call themselves 'democrat'.



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 10/18/2019 07:53 PM
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Cole

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Come on Gary, why not post on the open forum?

Why hide everything you do?
 10/19/2019 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Come on Gary, why not post on the open forum?



Why hide everything you do?


Is FatG sending you PM love letters?


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 10/19/2019 05:19 AM
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Democrats need to recognize that Tulsi is probably sincere. Her existence as an "outsider" is the asset to the Russians. Notice that Russia Today etc... have for two elections promoted third party candidates that are likely to capture Democrat votes. They have not promoted any right wing third party candidates. Tulsi is a darling of liberal leaning anti-government conspiracy theorists. I know anti-government liberals that voted for Trump because they believed the propaganda being pushed by the right (as shown by that bot IONN that camped here during the 2016 election). National Review is just pushing that same narrative. It is why a Birther is sitting in the white house. The birther thing he pulled in 2012 was a long game play.

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 10/19/2019 05:57 AM
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Russians know how to fan the flames and are actively doing so. Do you think it's possible or do you not like that Hillary the high priestess of anti trumpism was the source.

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 10/19/2019 06:49 AM
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Scombrid: The birther thing he pulled in 2012 was a long game play.............Genius, is that what you're saying? Trump planned all this since 2012 and it got him all the way to the white house? The Mans a genius to be able to pull that off....

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 10/19/2019 07:08 AM
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Genius is too strong. He's a cynical opportunist that hit the fox demographic at the perfect time because it coincided with the apex of fake news, the Cambridge analytica micro targeting and the Russian interference. That combination was not the three dimensional chess his supporters attribute to him in hindsight. Trump is our Rasputin and... you can't spell Rasputin without Putin. Damn. I'm on fire this morning.

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 10/19/2019 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by: somebodyelse Scombrid: The birther thing he pulled in 2012 was a long game play.............Genius, is that what you're saying? Trump planned all this since 2012 and it got him all the way to the white house? The Mans a genius to be able to pull that off....
He didn't plan anything. He's playing along. He didn't go the birther route on his own. But he is a professional grifter so there is the fact that he found a gullible group of people in the conspiracy theory world that would follow him into a pit of boiling lava as long has he chanted their theories at them along the way.

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 10/19/2019 08:34 AM
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scombrid

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The Cambridge Analytica type stuff is still in play. If you have any hardcore MAGAs in your social media sphere. Look how much dodgy shit they share. They are marks and still being targeted and used.

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 10/19/2019 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Russians know how to fan the flames and are actively doing so. Do you think it's possible or do you not like that Hillary the high priestess of anti trumpism was the source.


Tell vladimir I will have more flexibility, guess that was a dogwhistle for dems, russia russia russia give it a rest

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Edited: 10/19/2019 at 08:51 AM by cheaterfiveo
 10/21/2019 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Well folks around here are pretty confused about what and who are commies. I don't know why you guys are still worried about that old bat.


Seems like you are confused about the definition of fascism and fascist. I'm not sure that anyone is all that concerned with Hillary specifically but they are concerned with the trend that if anyone speaks out on certain subjects or against the wrong people that the "power brokers" on the left and establishment on the left will tell the media that you sent your spirit after them in a dream and you must be burned at the stake for it. Then the media will run wild with it. They are smearing Gabbard because she won't play ball. She won't toe the line and as she said over the weekend, if it can happen to her then it can happen to anyone. Anyone who has had to work in a toxic workplace has to understand how bad it must be in the Democrat party. It looks like complete disfunction on display.

If you believe that anyone who goes against the Democrat establishment must be a Russian asset, even if that person is a veteran who served two tours in Iraq, then you are a f'ing retard.
 10/21/2019 08:04 AM
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Sniper

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Whether Hillary realizes it or not, she is pushing Gabbard up, not down. If I thought this was part of a strategy to pull voters away from Trump, then I would be impressed but that would require Hillary Clinton acknowledging how unpopular she is and I don't think she will ever come to grips with that.

 10/21/2019 08:17 AM
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RustyTruck

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The Hillary/Tulsi tiff is of no consequence, and the "left" has nothing to do with it. Once again snipe you confuse centrist liberalism with "left", and that's mistaken. The dem establishment is entrenched liberals, and they hate the left more than the GOP/right does. Tulsi is an ex-troop, center-right, so she will never be supported by the left.

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 10/21/2019 08:27 AM
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"The dem establishment is entrenched liberals, and they hate the left more than the GOP/right does." Not too far from true on the economic front though they are not going to completely cut off their noses for spite. Luckily Biden (entrenched liberal guy) doesn't have to run against a new new deal heroes he can just run against the idiot in chief since the $hit show continues with new material daily.





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Tulsi needs to announce "Treat me fairly or I run as an independent". It worked for Trump. Finally we are getting genuine individuals running for President, instead of the fake Washington insiders. She is in my opinion, the only one that can beat Trump.

Edited: 10/21/2019 at 09:01 AM by chopola
 10/21/2019 09:03 AM
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Ross Perot taught the Democrats and Republicans what happens with someone who cannot win but can determine who will win.

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