Cheater, the presumption of innocence applies to criminal cases. It's a rebuttable presumption. That means that you must start believing someone is innocent unless or until the facts, evidence and testimony prove otherwise. I'm at otherwise.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Confidential informants bring down criminals all the time. Defendant has no right to know who they are either.

Thats a bald faced LIE!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Also. Whistle blowers are granted protections because they are the genesis of institutional wrongs. They are an investigative beginning, not a verdict.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

DOJ guidelines on Confidential Informants:

Confidential informants are often uniquely situated to assist the FBI in its most sensitive investigations. They may be involved in criminal activities or enterprises themselves, may be recruited by the FBI because of their access and status, and, since they will not testify in court, usually can preserve their anonymity.

According to the FBI's Manual of Investigative Operations and Guidelines (MIOG), CIs are classified in each of the following categories: Organized Crime, General Criminal, Domestic Terrorism, White Collar Crime, Confidential Source, Drugs, International Terrorism, Civil Rights, National Infrastructure Protection/Computer Intrusion Program, Cyber Crime, and Major Theft and Violent Gangs.

Source: https://oig.justice.gov/special/0509/chapter3.htm

Thank you hap. GOP dumb a$$es only see what is being shoveled in their trough on fox.

Twitler and his $hithead administration probably only want to know who the whistleblower is so they can continue bringing down Ukraine. Why? Because Putin wants it!

FAIL!

We have a WHISTLEBLOWER statute/law!

It pertains to this sphincter that we are referring to!

That statute/law does NOT guarantee ANY anonymity for the whistleblower.

NONE!

He/she is NOT a 'confidential informant' and he/she is REQUIRED to testify!

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 11/21/2019 at 05:21 AM by Fish Killer

They want the whistle blower because it is their only line of defense. Unfortunately, Sondland just blew that and every other one of their weak points to hell.

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I was right.

Yup, WB should be protected. Just as any other informant in other types of criminal cases discussed in this thread.

Bwahahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

You're out of your flippin' mind!

Better watch this as it COMPLETLY calls you a fucking LIAR!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Bummer thay they won't ID the whistleblower ... Trump spent a whole week of President time thinking up witty nicknames. Now who's he gonna pick on?

Any female waitstaff around he can bully?

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When America was "great"

Look...the moron speaks.

The whistleblower is well known.

He was outed long ago....by Schiff!

Fool.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Sondlund saw he was being vetted as a bag man and defended himself by testifying everyone was in the loop and well aware of the quid pro quo and why it was happening. Looks like Pompeo and Pence are not as dumb and oblivious as they are pretending. Now it's trump turn again to tweet himself out of office. I can't wait for the gop to ask him to do the honorable thing and resign. Trump. The honorable thing. That's when trump explains that he is the GOP, there is no GOP without him and his idea of honor is to smear Pelosi and advise every republican to "stay honor."

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.