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RustyTruck

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http://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/...-intl-scli/index.html

(CNN)Veneto regional council, which is located on Venice's Grand Canal, was flooded for the first time in its history on Tuesday night -- just after it rejected measures to combat climate change.

The historic Italian city has been brought to its knees this week by the worst flooding there in more than 50 years.
And the council chamber in Ferro Fini Palace started to take in water around 10 p.m. local time, as councilors were debating the 2020 regional budget, Democratic Party councilor Andrea Zanoni said in a long Facebook post.

"Ironically, the chamber was flooded two minutes after the majority League, Brothers of Italy, and Forza Italia parties rejected our amendments to tackle climate change," Zanoni, who is deputy chairman of the environment committee, said in the post, which also has photographs of the room under water.
Among the rejected amendments were measures to fund renewable sources, to replace diesel buses with "more efficient and less polluting ones," to scrap polluting stoves and reduce the impact of plastics, he said.

Zanoni went on to accuse Veneto regional president Luca Zaia, who is a member of Matteo Salvini's far-right League Party, of presenting a budget "with no concrete actions to combat climate change."

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 11/14/2019 09:44 AM
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One might ask "what's the big deal? It flooded like that 50 years ago.". The problem is, as I'm told, these floods have only happened 4 times in 800 years. So 200 year events are occurring at 50 years now.

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Grab a bucket- we've got a prog hoax to bail out of the conference room LOL

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This article was written in 2015.

This sounds like something they have been dealing with since the 5th century.

Edited: 11/14/2019 at 11:39 AM by Sniper
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climate change was made up by the chinese.....LOL

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Edited: 11/14/2019 at 11:38 AM by stokedpanda
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

This article was written in 2015.



This sounds like something they have been dealing with since the 5th century.



It's not just Venice, Adriatic coastal areas are all inundated. Worst flooding in Mrs. Truck's hometown since 1966.

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Originally posted by: Sniper

This article was written in 2015.



This sounds like something they have been dealing with since the 5th century.


someone tell rusty they use boats there because its built on water. duh

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 11/14/2019 08:28 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Originally posted by: Sniper



This article was written in 2015.







This sounds like something they have been dealing with since the 5th century.




someone tell rusty they use boats there because its built on water. duh


Fuck dude, really? lol

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WG

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They have been dealing with it since they built the city.
yea all those boats.

You caught that huh?
sharp guy.

They aren't dealing so well with the start of the Anthropocene epoch.
No surprise there. They depended upon relatively stable sea level when they built it.
Stable enough that it's still there,after centuries.

But stable no more, and much worse coming.
Lots of other cities will have trouble coping with it.

Venice's barriers still don't work.
They need to call the Dutch.

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 11/15/2019 01:59 AM
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tom

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Voopa voopa voopa Ding! Noah. Who's that!?! It's God Noah. Riiiight...

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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

Originally posted by: Sniper



This article was written in 2015.







This sounds like something they have been dealing with since the 5th century.




someone tell rusty they use boats there because its built on water. duh





LOL... dumbass.


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was flooded for the first time in its history on Tuesday night -- just after it rejected measures to combat climate change..... If only they had voted the other way they could have avoided the flooding???... The land Venice was built on has been sinking since the last IceAge.... The weight of all those glaciers on northern Europe lifted tilted up the Southern half of the European plate. The IceAge which lasted 100,000 years and weighed down the Northern part of Europe has only been gone 15,000 years and so Southern Europe has been sinking back down toward a geological balance for only 15,000 years and will continue to sink until the entire European plate is in 'balance'....Their flooding comes from geological forces that have been moving for 115,000 YEARS, not from plastics in the oceans...

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Fish Killer

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Logic and facts escapes prog commie demoshits!

Fact!

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RustyTruck

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Stay with me now....

Sea level is rising. If the land you're living on is "sinking", it might be prudent to consider doing everything possible to mitigate that.


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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Sea level is rising.


Liar!

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somebodyelse

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bear with me now... IF the land your CITY is on is sinking... plastic bans will NOT HELP... spending money on electric buses will not help.. And You don't want to be spending your limited funds on a Global solution that will STILL leave your sinking city under water. Your CITY COUNCIL needs to be spending your money on near term, immediate steps. A Dike like Holland does, Lifting the entire city up 10 feet like Chicago did... There is a FLOOD in the foyer, lets Reduce carbon???

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ah the myopic dimness of nobodyelse. The genius doesn't get that while Venice is f-ed, it is an example of what could come to a coastal or river city near us all. Climate change can be arrested or at the very least slowed.

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Ah the illiteracy of Greensleeve, Jumps in at the bottom of a thread and Posts: The genius doesn't get that while Venice is f-ed .......... Green Doesn't grasp the fact that the entire thread is about Veneto regional council, -- just after it rejected measures to combat climate change... Green, Doesn't understand that Venice Passing Carbon restrictions while standing in knee deep water is STUPID and will waste money that they need right now to combat this flooding. That the environmental party condemning Venice for NOT restricting carbon shows a real lack of understanding about the real NEEDS OF THE CITY. VENICE needs an immediate solution, not an internet trolls opinion that we maybe can slow climate change... someday...

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GOP numbskulls like nobodyelse can't see past the lunacy of what Venice has done. The GOP are doing the exact same $hit! Waiting until it all goes south! That's why young people can't stand the GOP. Well that and the smell of old.






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WG

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WOW.
I'm stupefied
Please read all of that again somebodyelse

think man

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