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Pagerow

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Trump's second book after "Running the Country (into the ground) For Dummies"

Pelosi asks House to pursue articles of impeachment

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday said that she is asking her colleagues to pursue articles of impeachment against President Trump for his "failure to faithfully execute the law" in his dealings with Ukraine. 'The president leaves us no choice but to act' because he is trying to corrupt, once again, the election for his own benefit.'

The facts are uncontested," she said. "The president abused his power for his own personal political benefit at the expense of our national security by withholding military aid and a crucial Oval Office meeting in exchange for an announcement of an investigation into his political rival."

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2020....

DONE!

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 12/05/2019 12:29 PM
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"The facts are uncontested," she said."

Liar!

The facts are seriously CONTESTED!

Your sham witch hunt is about to get exposed by the Senate!

FOOLS!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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And now for the Senate to go on the historical record as also being corrupt and complicit- and then the American people will be the final judge and jury


As a guy who used to frequent these forums liked to say, 2020... DONE!

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The Senate is going to tell the people not to believe their lying eyes, and he's going to get re-elected because the Dems would rather torpedo Bernie and lose than have to actually work on structural change to failing capitalism.




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 12/05/2019 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

The Senate is going to tell the people not to believe their lying eyes, and he's going to get re-elected because the Dems would rather torpedo Bernie and lose than have to actually work on structural change to failing capitalism.


Yeah, but at least we'll find out who the traitors are on the Senate side. They will take their own name down in the dregs of history...

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RustyTruck: The Senate is going to tell the people not to believe their lying eyes,.... The Senate is saying WATCH the proceedings, SEE the testimony with YOUR OWN EYES.... That is the Senates entire defense of Trump, watch the proceedings with your own eyes rather than listening to talking heads and 3rd hand opinions... The Republicans questions ARE: Did you see this with your own eyes or did somebodyelse tell you about it? Did you hear this with your own ears or did somebody say they thought they heard some other person say that in their opinion something happened?

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No, the GOP plan is to try and delegitimize the process, deflect, distract, and ignore. The facts are undisputed. They have to convince the people to ignore them, and for the 38% of the country with malignant confirmation bias and a 5th grade education, it's not a hard sell in some places.

The outcome is a foregone conclusion.


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nobodyelse happily tricked by his overlords

Here is one of the many GOP geezer hopey changey defenses that make no f-ing sense:

Did you see OJ do the murders? No. Then he didn't do them.

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Rusty: The facts are undisputed...... That is Pelosi's LIE... why do you repeat it? The so called facts are all OPINIONS, 2nd hand, 3rd hand hearsay... There are NO UNDISPUTED FACTS at all, every single piece of so-called evidence is under dispute. The Democrats call a witness, that witness gives an opinion on 3rd hand knowledge, The Democrats announce we have undisputed FACTS, you with a malignant confirmation Bias, believe them. Five minutes later a Republican asks that same person, Did you see it, did you hear it, do you have ANY FACTS and EVERY SINGLE WITNESS SAYS: NO I didn't see anything. NO I didn't hear anything factual, NO I do not have ANY FIRST HAND FACTS.... BUT yes, those with confirmation Bias still Parrot Pelosi's obvious lies...

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Is what the President said to Zelensky on the phone call under dispute? 'I would like you to do us a favor' said the stooge

Is the fact that the aide to the Ukraine was delayed under dispute?

Is the fact that the Whitehouse has refused subpoenas under dispute? (Cited as obstruction of Congress against Nixon in his proceedings)

twitler is getting impeached.
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

The Senate is going to tell the people not to believe their lying eyes, and he's going to get re-elected because the Dems would rather torpedo Bernie and lose than have to actually work on structural change to failing capitalism.


Heresay dont get it
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Fact - Trump withheld aid to Ukraine
Fact - He send his personal attorney to lobby them to announce an investigation into Biden
Fact - He's on record telling the pres of Ukraine "I want you to do me a favor..."
Fact - When confronted with whistleblower testimony, he suddenly released the aide

He used the power of the office to influence a foreign government to investigate a political rival for personal gain. Cut and dry.

Rudy is over there now, still trying to get help from corrupt Ukrainians.

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Oh look, dotards don't know what a FACT is, how shocking...

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 12/06/2019 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Fact - Trump withheld aid to Ukraine
Fact - He send his personal attorney to lobby them to announce an investigation into Biden
Fact - He's on record telling the pres of Ukraine "I want you to do me a favor..."
Fact - When confronted with whistleblower testimony, he suddenly released the aide

He used the power of the office to influence a foreign government to investigate a political rival for personal gain. Cut and dry.

Rudy is over there now, still trying to get help from corrupt Ukrainians.


Perfect. Let it go to the Senate, put the Bidens under oath, and let's see if the Bidens' activity warranted investigation.

Put the whistleblower under oath. Let's find out if the whistleblower, who worked for Biden, is really a whistleblower or if he is just leaking the details of the President's phone conversations and violating Executive privilege in the process.

As soon as this becomes a bipartisan investigation, things are going to go all kinds of sideways for the Dems.

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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Originally posted by: RustyTruck



Fact - Trump withheld aid to Ukraine

Fact - He send his personal attorney to lobby them to announce an investigation into Biden

Fact - He's on record telling the pres of Ukraine "I want you to do me a favor..."

Fact - When confronted with whistleblower testimony, he suddenly released the aide



He used the power of the office to influence a foreign government to investigate a political rival for personal gain. Cut and dry.



Rudy is over there now, still trying to get help from corrupt Ukrainians.




Perfect. Let it go to the Senate, put the Bidens under oath, and let's see if the Bidens' activity warranted investigation.



Put the whistleblower under oath. Let's find out if the whistleblower, who worked for Biden, is really a whistleblower or if he is just leaking the details of the President's phone conversations and violating Executive privilege in the process.



As soon as this becomes a bipartisan investigation, things are going to go all kinds of sideways for the Dems.


You want to shift the focus to the Bidens, but all sources have found no evidence of illegal activities involving them. Traditional influence peddling and graft, no doubt, but nothing that the trump family isn't up to it's neck in.

The whistleblower is protected by law passed by bipartisan Congress, and their claims have been proven and admitted by the WH, so again, an attempt to deflect and distract.

The whistleblower was already checked out and found to be credible using the fully legal chain of command and procedures.

But for someone who desperately wants their dear leader to avoid accountability, it doesn't take anything but someone telling them what they want to hear, obviously.

What's the president's personal lawyer doing in Ukraine at this very moment?


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The whistleblower is protected against retaliation in the workplace. That's it. Not sure where you guys are hearing otherwise but he isn't guaranteed anonymity and the law does not say that whistleblowers are prohibited from being called to the stand.

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 12/06/2019 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

The whistleblower is protected against retaliation in the workplace. That's it. Not sure where you guys are hearing otherwise but he isn't guaranteed anonymity and the law does not say that whistleblowers are prohibited from being called to the stand.


They can call anyone want to the stand but that doesn't mean they have the right to make the whistleblower take the stand. You understand that, right?
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Trump's people - Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton, Gouliani - will have to speak under oath and be questioned by Democratic Senators. Think about that for a minute. lol

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