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Topic Title: The conspiracies that have kept the Trump base loyal...
Topic Summary: were debunked yesterday.
Created On: 12/10/2019 09:06 AM
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 12/11/2019 10:25 AM
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RustyTruck

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Did the IC find that the investigation into trump was justified or not? Simple enough question. Were the FBI agents who leaked info to Giuliani biased against Hillary? Is that a crime?

If I go on record saying all cops are bastards, am I immune to arrest because they will thereafter be biased against me and it wouldn't be fair?
LOL.

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 12/11/2019 10:27 AM
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3rdworldlover

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DOJ IG Horowitz confirms to Leahy that pro-Trump text messages from FBI agents were also discovered by the IG's office: "That's correct. That's in the report."


How convenient that someone at the DOJ selected texts to share with the press, to help Trump push his conspiracies.

The facts are that despite Strozk and Page having personal political beliefs, they were able to set those aside to perform their duties with impartiality.
 12/11/2019 10:44 AM
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Sniper

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The IG report stated that the FBI made 17 major "errors" in their investigation, including forging emails and intentionally omitting exculpatory evidence.

How many of the 17 "errors" were made in Trump's favor?

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Edited: 12/11/2019 at 10:46 AM by Sniper
 12/11/2019 10:56 AM
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johnnyboy

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17 errors but still justified. Translation: people make mistakes. It's why pencils have erasers. None of those mistakes rose to the level of corruption, deep state or conspiracy.

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 12/11/2019 11:01 AM
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Sniper

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An example of a mistake would be using the wrong fork at dinner, not forging an email used to obtain a warrant to spy on people with secret court system.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 12/11/2019 11:06 AM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: Sniper

The IG report stated that the FBI made 17 major "errors" in their investigation, including forging emails and intentionally omitting exculpatory evidence.



How many of the 17 "errors" were made in Trump's favor?


Don't look at me, you're the one who loves cops.

ACAB

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 12/11/2019 02:11 PM
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Cole

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The 17 errors had to do with a single person, Carter Page.

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 12/11/2019 04:56 PM
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Four people. Carter Page, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Flynn.

So which witch on this hunt? Carter Page? Ok, but as more becomes available, we will see if he gets indicted once the other witches turn snitches.

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 12/11/2019 05:59 PM
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 12/11/2019 08:14 PM
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HAPDigital

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"Over 1 million pages" of investigative reports and only 17 mistakes about one guy. LOL talk about the lettuce on a nothing burger.
 12/12/2019 04:21 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

"Over 1 million pages" of investigative reports and only 17 mistakes about one guy. LOL talk about the lettuce on a nothing burger.


Yo....SHITFORBRAINS!

The 17 mistakes were on the FISA warrants....NOT the investigative reports!

They are 17 LIES!

Deliberate and intentional LIES...

Just like you just deliberately did!

MORON!

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 12/12/2019 04:28 AM
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"The OIG examined more than one million documents that were in the Department's and FBI's possession and conducted over 170 interviews involving more than 100 witnesses. " However, there were only 17 errors found. Talk about accuracy.
 12/12/2019 04:29 AM
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johnnyboy

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Don't forget the cheese. Lots and lots of free government GOP cheese.

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 12/12/2019 05:13 AM
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Sniper

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I love the title of this thread.
Conspiracies like Trump being a Russian agent?
Conspiracies like Trump paying prostitutes to pee on a bed that Obama slept on in Russia, which turned out to be a joke that was told in a bar?
Conspiracies like Kavanaugh being a rapist?

OR

Conspiracies about the government listening in on phone calls of the Trump campaign. They did.
Conspiracies about the government having informants aka spies in the Trump campaign. They did.
Conspiracies about FISA abuse. There was FISA abuse. The FBI forged documents to say that Carter Page was not a CIA asset when he was. If it had not been forged, the FISA warrant on him probably wouldn't have been granted.
Conspiracies about the "deep state". You can call it the "deep state", the bureaucratic state or whatever you want but it is a fact that presidents come and go but the leadership of many of the agencies stays pretty static. They are not elected and are accustomed to running things the way they want. Trump has pretty much busted much of this up. I doubt we are done hearing about Brennan. We may hear more about Comey and Clapper but I'd be really surprised if Brennan's name doesn't bubble back up in the Durham report.

AND

Still left to go?
John Durham and Bill Barr went to Italy to discuss Joseph Mifsud's involvement in potentially entrapping George Papadopoulos. The day after they returned from their trip, Durham announced that his investigation had moved to a criminal investigation. I'd be surprised if we don't hear more about crooked ways that the FBI and CIA worked together to justify surveilling the Trump campaign when the Durham report is released.

I would be surprised if we don't hear more about the Don Jr. meeting with the Russian lawyer, who met with Fusion GPS before her meeting, took information given to her by Fusion GPS to the meeting with Don Jr., and then met with Fusion GPS after the meeting with Don Jr.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 12/12/2019 05:34 AM
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I see what you did there. You put the patently stupid conspiracies that Trump doesn't believe in one category with the ones that he does. You seemed to have forgotten some of the best. Mexico is going to pay for our wall. Windmills cause cancer. Obama is a Kenyan National. Obama forged his birth certificate. Russia is our friend. There are good people on both sides of the white supremacy marches. Trump was investigated by the FBI based on the Steele dossier. The FBI infiltrated trump's campaign. Crowdstrike has the DNC server in the Ukraine. Ukraine oligarchs one crowdstrike. Rudy guilianni is a lawyer. He never paid the porn star or the playmate to keep quiet. He gives generously to his own charity. Manafort and stone are good guys and only criminals because they were unfairly and politically targeted.

You would be surprised by more stupid shit you want to be true. That would not surprise me at all.


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 12/12/2019 05:39 AM
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HAPDigital

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Sniper thinks the whistleblower's rights should be violated for his orange master regardless of the law. We confirmed this.
 12/12/2019 06:18 AM
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johnnyboy

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Some POS GOP senator had Valerie Plamed the whistleblower but the press so far has refused to print the name. This is the type of chicanery that is the trump norm. There are no limits, boundaries or rules until it happens to them.

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 12/12/2019 06:26 AM
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Sniper

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Everybody knows the name. His name isn't protected. He is protected from retaliation within the workplace. That's it. Show me the law that says otherwise.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 12/12/2019 06:29 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Sniper

Everybody knows the name. His name isn't protected. He is protected from retaliation within the workplace. That's it. Show me the law that says otherwise.


I don't listen to right media and have never heard the name. NPR has never even broached the subject.



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 12/12/2019 06:36 AM
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johnnyboy

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The same people and organization that revealed the secret identity of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame to punish her husband for his criticisms of Iraq's nuclear capabilities will be at work outing this guy. Remember that freak show that showed up the pizza parlor looking to execute pedophiles at highest levels within the Democratic Party? What do you think happens to the whistle blower. How far will the crazies retaliate when a sitting senator goes so far as to reveal his identity? If he's murdered, would that same POS senator take responsibility, what is he gets the familiar avalanche of death threats and needs police protection, who pays for that?

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