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Topic Title: Rick Scott's Blind Trust Managed By Business Associate Topic Summary: Created On: 06/04/2014 08:50 PM |
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- tpapablo | - 06/05/2014 11:28 AM |
- surf4fun | - 06/05/2014 11:32 AM |
- jdbman | - 06/05/2014 01:07 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 06/05/2014 01:29 PM |
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- surf4fun | - 06/05/2014 02:51 PM |
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- 3rdworldlover | - 06/06/2014 02:19 PM |
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- tpapablo | - 06/06/2014 12:45 PM |
- surf4fun | - 06/06/2014 12:51 PM |
- surf4fun | - 06/06/2014 02:29 PM |
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- tpapablo | - 06/06/2014 02:47 PM |
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- surf4fun | - 06/06/2014 03:14 PM |
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- tpapablo | - 06/08/2014 03:14 PM |
- surf4fun | - 06/08/2014 03:26 PM |
- 3rdworldlover | - 06/05/2014 09:27 AM |
- Central Floridave | - 06/05/2014 10:12 AM |
- tpapablo | - 06/05/2014 10:35 AM |
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06/05/2014 08:15 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 08:23 AM
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How can a lawyer, someone who is supposed to uphold the law, support a crook like Rick Scott? Why do you still support Rick Scott Tpab?
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06/05/2014 08:48 AM
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He's been a positive for the state by helping to bring back the economy. He has the fiscal situation under control. He's largely stayed out of my business. On the flip side, I can't think of anything bad that he has done. I wasn't real happy about the teacher raises, but no one is perfect. Then there is Charlie Crist. The dude is souless and only out for himself. I would vote for damn near anyone if Crist was the alternative. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 08:55 AM
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Bring back the economy? If you say so.
What do you think about the Sun Rail project? That cost tax dollars and he is getting kick backs from it. Instead of a high speed rail, we get a crappy subsidized rail system in Orlando that is not practical.
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06/05/2014 09:16 AM
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What do you think about the Sun Rail project? That cost tax dollars and he is getting kick backs from it. Instead of a high speed rail, we get a crappy subsidized rail system in Orlando that is not practical. Don't know much about it, though I would almost certainly be against it. Give me a source for the kickbacks. If that is true, I shan't vote for the man. I was adamently against the high speed rail boondoggle, so that was another positive for Scott. And, yes, I have personally seen the results of Scott's efforts to jump start the economy. He has done a good job there. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 09:22 AM
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It is already running. To make it popular it has been free(at the tax payers expense). Tax payer money from that project is being funneled into Rick Scott's blind trust.
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06/05/2014 10:30 AM
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That should be well documented then. The Tampa Bay ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 10:38 AM
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after googling I find that Adam Hollingsworth's wife is also an executive from CSX.
It is estimated that CSX will get 650 million dollars from taxpayers for this sunrail project for selling the it's rail line to the State. What is in Rick Scott's 'blind' trust? He is making 3 million a year from it. But, nobody knows except his close personal advisor. It could be legit, it also could be a major conflict of interest and also illegal. If Rick Scott is benifitting with not only approving but pushing for the Sunrail project while making money off it also is pretty bad. Maybe this is why he killed the Speed Rail project and then months later approved Sunrail. Its all speculation but very fishy in my opinion. |
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06/05/2014 10:57 AM
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Can you progs read? The contract with CSX was signed and the funding was approved before Scott became governor. And, Jesus, people, if Scott became Governor to line his own pockets, the the high speed rail was the mother lode. Tampa lawyers were salivating over that. And Florida voters shot down high speed rail, btw. As I said, progs, you have to do better than that when you are dealing with me. I am the humiliator of progs. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 11:11 AM
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for the record, I'm for the sunrail project. We need to invest in public transportation. We should have gotten the high speed rail also.
What I'm against is my politicians profiteering from decisions they make. We have Sunshine laws specifically so the taxpayers can see if their politicians profit from the laws/budgets they pass. The blind trust is against sunshine laws. tpap, as a teaparty you should be against sunrail. Go look at how much it will cost the taxpayer and it is not proven to be profitable. |
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06/08/2014 03:25 PM
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I probably am against it. But, I don't know enough about it to say definitely. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/08/2014 03:58 PM
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06/09/2014 08:12 AM
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Anyone want to show support for Tpab and Rick Scott?
You are lucky that you do not have to face someone like me on a regular basis in the court of law.
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06/09/2014 11:30 AM
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Crickets chrirping
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06/09/2014 12:09 PM
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How often do you think he is in court? SOP for slime ball tort attourney is delay, extort and never go to court.
If your restaurant burns down and your insurance company questions how the fire got started........call the tampon for a free consultation. However with all the time the freak spends on an internet surf forum and playing ball with fuck knut, I don't see how the law gets much of his time. ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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06/09/2014 01:28 PM
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How often do you think he is in court? SOP for slime ball tort attourney is delay, extort and never go to court. If your restaurant burns down and your insurance company questions how the fire got started........call the tampon for a free consultation. However with all the time the freak spends on an internet surf forum and playing ball with fuck knut, I don't see how the law gets much of his time. doesn't mean that it is not billable hours for some poorly represented client. ------------------------- "Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell "Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right. If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore. |
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06/09/2014 01:34 PM
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You progs are getting a bit surly. Guess that's natural. A prog's life is a miserable one. And lashing out against your betters is a typical response of miserable losers. The PiC has it down to an art. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/09/2014 01:41 PM
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Back to name calling. That is a great way to show your intellectual superiority.
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06/10/2014 11:49 AM
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So far the jury is 2-0 against Tpab.
Anyone(FK excluded) want to show some support to Tpab and his self proclaimed intellectual superiority?
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06/11/2014 05:32 PM
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Can't face the facts so you ignore me. Don't expect me to give you any waves at 16th street next time I see you there.
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10/17/2018 12:16 PM
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an examination of Mr. Scott's finances shows that his trust has been blind in name only. There have been numerous ways for him to have knowledge about his holdings: Among other things, he transferred many assets to his wife and neither "blinded" nor disclosed them. And their investments have included corporations, partnerships and funds that stood to benefit from his administration's actions.
Only in late July, when compelled by ethics rules for Senate candidates, did Mr. Scott disclose his wife's holdings. That report revealed that his wife, Ann Scott, an interior decorator by trade, controlled accounts that might exceed the value of her husband's. Their equity investments largely mirrored each other, meaning that Mr. Scott could, if he wanted, track his own holdings by following his wife's. http://www.nytimes.com/2018/10...licts-blind-trust.html |
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10/17/2018 12:22 PM
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Rick Scott signed the law in 2013 revising FL's ethics rules to allow blind trusts. It's a short rule, and worth a read for a good laugh at how it opens the door to corruption while providing cover from public scrutiny.
"if a public officer creates a trust...his or her official actions will not APPEAR to be influenced by private considerations" 112.31425, Florida Statutes |
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10/17/2018 02:42 PM
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Would you have preferred for Scott to do it the way Obama did it, given that Obama is a god to you guys and could not possibly do wrong?
Obama, gaming the system.
The AVI BioPharma shares were bought just before Mr. Obama began to push for more federal spending to battle avian flu. At the time, the company was seeking to develop a drug to treat the disease. Coincidence, right?
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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10/17/2018 09:14 PM
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Can't face the facts so you ignore me. Don't expect me to give you any waves at 16th street next time I see you there. Where is mr. surf4fun? great minds think alike..... With pigblo's aggressive, condescending, lying support of the worst enemy the watersports men and ladies of this state and town have ever faced, denying him some waves sounds somewhat mild. Just stay in grandmoms pinto in the parking lot dork, wankin to lush dimbaugh on the am radio and chuggin malt liquor with Bot Troller. (Eeewww, that guy's got a towel in his lap, and a blowup doll in the back seat.......) Scott is the worst, most corrupt elected official in florida history. oinkyfella is a swine among pigs "Anyone(FK excluded) want to show some support to Tpab and his self proclaimed intellectual superiority?" Sure! How about some quotes: "We are brainwashed sheep and infatuated with youtube video douche bags. Well, thanks guys for the insightful and undoubtedly expert analysis of my psyche. I never knew that about myself. I will work on that." "Anyone who "enabled" this modern day Hitler is a dumb, deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, unpatriotic, Russian sympathizing, toothless moron." ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 10/17/2018 at 09:23 PM by nukeh2o |
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06/05/2014 11:12 AM
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I feel like Tpab will support anything a Republican does and will oppose anything a Democrat does.
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06/05/2014 11:21 AM
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Yes he thinks you are stupid, he is an arrogant little prick, a chicken hawk kook also. He is a tort at tourney, the lowest of all pond scum. He most likely assists other known scum like fuck Knut with legal issues. You really should know who you are dealing with here.
Don't you find it surprising that people actually pay to have their business associated with a website that started out for surfers but now panders to social scum, that discuss extreme , mostly inaccurate anti social, political horse shit? ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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06/05/2014 11:23 AM
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It is the nature of online forums. I know a little bit about Tpab. It is amazing that someone can be educated and successful yet so clueless about the actions of Rick Scott.
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06/05/2014 11:28 AM
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Show me the links. Very simple. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 11:32 AM
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06/05/2014 01:07 PM
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"Hahaha, thanks for the riches......" Tampon
Joke is on you ahole, with an ex wife and a dead beat kid, the more you make the more you pay out, Lmfao you effing loser....... ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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06/05/2014 01:29 PM
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Actually he's the winner because he actually has money to pay out....unlike you. So the jokes is in fact on you. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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06/05/2014 02:18 PM
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FK, you need to let go of Tpab and Rick Scott's nuts. Just because someone has money does not mean they are a good person, nor does it mean they are successful, nor does it make them happy.
Your bible even says so!!!
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06/05/2014 02:42 PM
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Your bible even says so!!! Look, I'm not a prog. So I don't need the gov't's help or yours to deal with a pissant like jdb. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 02:51 PM
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Believe me, if I could find a decent job I would be doing it. Instead I'm collecting food stamps, I still will not register as a Democrat. The US gives out to corporations(corporate welfare) than is gives to her people in the form of social welfare. Keep blaming poor people for the problems in America, that is exactly what the chicken hawks want you to do.
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06/05/2014 03:05 PM
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'I don't blame the poor. Quite the contrary. I blame our govt. for keeping them poor. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 03:06 PM
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The same government that made Rick Scott rich?
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06/05/2014 02:38 PM
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My ex-wife is rich as hell. I could have gotten alimony from her, had I wanted it. But, I am not a prog and prefer to earn my own way. Sadly, my son is a bum. But I imagine he makes 3-5 times what yours makes. So that gives me some consolation. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 02:40 PM
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At least with you being a lawyer, your son does not have to worry about doing any jail time.
Money is not a good way to measure one's success.
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06/05/2014 03:06 PM
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Money is not a good way to measure one's success. No disagreement from me on that. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 03:27 PM
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06/05/2014 11:30 AM
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Hahahaha! And your man, the PiC has been doling our favors left and right to us scum tort attorneys. Thanks for the riches, jdb. Much appreciated. Hahahaha! ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 06:12 PM
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I feel like Tpab will support anything a Republican does and will oppose anything a Democrat does. ya think! That and he is just a trolling assclown that posts moronic BS for effect. Your life and blood pressure will be much better if you simply ignore him and fk, et all ------------------------- "Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell "Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right. If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore. |
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06/05/2014 07:25 PM
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I know this, look at my sign up date. I was just bored and figured I'd troll the troll. As a result of my trolling FK is down 3 aliases. Winning!
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06/05/2014 09:36 PM
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Man, that fibbibing is awesome! Keep up the good work! You're a chip off the ole block! |
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06/06/2014 07:50 AM
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I know this, look at my sign up date. I was just bored and figured I'd troll the troll. As a result of my trolling FK is down 3 aliases. Winning! and in doing so makes threads that have the potential to be informative into a completely unreadable, grade school level, insult / calling out battle all ur doing is feeding the trolls and perhaps feeding you own need to troll. ------------------------- "Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell "Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right. If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore. |
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06/06/2014 08:29 AM
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My posts are incredibly informative. I take the time to synthesize and report the important issues of the day and, as an added bonus, provide my insightful commentary. You can not lay the blame on me if the progs are too stupid to comprehend the signifigance. Moreover, I do not engage in cursing on this forum. I carefully analyze the writings of a poster and render a judgment on that poster's intelligence. So, Larry, if I call you and idiot, I am simply reciting a fact. Even this effort on my part provides a valuable service. If the idiot poster in question heeds my conclusion, he can save himself from great embarrassment by ceasing to post his inane caterwaulings. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 10:55 AM
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I've been trying to keep on topic. It is FK who ruins all the threads on here. Don't like my posts on here, complain to Dave and get me banned.
Tpab, do you still support Rick Scott?
Or are you going to continue to turn a blind eye to all the shady things he pulls?
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06/06/2014 11:12 AM
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I have talked to many libs about Scott. They hate him one and all. When asked why, only one has given me a rational reason. A professor at a community college disliked that he modified the state pension system, which affected the professor directly. You, surf4fun, are like those libs - you cannot express any reason for your hatred of the man. I, on the other hand, have expressed my reasons for why I am planning on voting for him. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 11:22 AM
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Evey little thing Obama does wrong you are all over. Yet you just turn a blind eye to everything Rick Scott does. This forum has provided ample information against Rick Scott and you choose to ignore it. Your ignorance is amazing
I hate Rick Scott because he is crook. He never should have been elected. He had to jump through hoops to even qualify as a Florida resident to get his name on the ballot.
Because he has an R next to his name you will continue to support him. That is pathetic man. The only reason you support Rick Scott is because of his party affiliation.
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06/06/2014 11:42 AM
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As I said .... As many a prog can tell you, there is no future in arguing with me. You'll only make yourself look foolish. I have banished more progs from this forum than you can count (or, if you are a prog in Republican clothing, much more than you can count), due to my exposing them as abject dunces. You'd do well to learn from their humiliation. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 11:46 AM
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Tpap. I know you aren't dumb enough to believe that Scott spent $70 million of his own money for the betterment of the state?
He'll turn that $70 into $170.... why do you think he hides behind the Blind Trusts? ------------------------- I was right. |
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06/06/2014 12:06 PM
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Almost all politicians of a certain stature put their assets into a blind trust, including the PiC. As much as I despise the PiC and question his motives, I haven't for one second thought that he wanted to become president to enrich himself. You are certainly entitled to believe what you want. But, I am going to stick to the facts. And the fact is that there is no evidence suggesting that Scott is using the office to enrich himself. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 12:09 PM
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Scott is a know criminal, there is absolutely no reason to believe he has changed.
Kick-backs are profitable, especially in the long run. ------------------------- I was right. |
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06/06/2014 02:19 PM
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Almost all politicians of a certain stature put their assets into a blind trust, including the PiC. As much as I despise the PiC and question his motives, I haven't for one second thought that he wanted to become president to enrich himself. You are certainly entitled to believe what you want. But, I am going to stick to the facts. And the fact is that there is no evidence suggesting that Scott is using the office to enrich himself. 1. Obama does not have a blind trust, and disclosed all of his financial info as public record. 2. Rick Scott wrote a law to hide his investments, included it as a rider on an ethics bill. That's all the evidence needed to know he cannot be trusted to represent the interests of Floridians. |
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06/06/2014 12:10 PM
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The only one who is a fool is you Tpab. You ignore everything negative about Rick Scott yet you have the audacity to call the rest of us foolish?
The jury of 2ndlight does not agree with your foolish reasoning.
Edited: 06/06/2014 at 02:28 PM by surf4fun |
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06/06/2014 12:45 PM
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The jury of 2ndlight does not agree with your foolish reasoning. Well the 2nd Light jury is waiting for you to post the links that validate your unsubtantiated contentions. Tick, tock, tick tock .... Ah, Cole, you have taken up the challenge. Please post links that set out Scott's convictions. Also, post some links showing that Scott is still at it. I see that you hold the belief that a criminal can never be reformed. So, I suppose that the PiC is still a coke head. That still doesn't explain his incompetency. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 12:51 PM
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There is plenty of information in this thread alone. It is futile with you. No evidence will change your mind. You will support any clown with an R next to his name.
If you just spent a fraction of the time researching Rick Scott as you do obsessing over Obama then maybe you would be able to see the light.
You maybe a successful lawyer, but you are dense and closed minded. The fact you have to resort to name calling when someone calls you out on your BS just shows how you lack the ability to think critically.
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06/06/2014 02:29 PM
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06/06/2014 02:43 PM
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Scott used the fifth 75 times and his company was fined over two billion dollars for fraud that occurred when he was in charge. Civil court saw him as guilty and he kept his mouth shout to keep the criminal court from doing the same.
Sorry barrister, but the ball is in your court. If he had a D in front of his name, you would be all over him and your actions would be justified. ------------------------- I was right. |
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06/06/2014 02:47 PM
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He did at one time. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 02:51 PM
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Unbelievable. You progs are some kind of dumb. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/06/2014 03:14 PM
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06/08/2014 02:54 PM
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Tpab, have you been ignoring this thread now?
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06/08/2014 03:14 PM
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No, I am carfefully monitoring this thread. I have, in fact, devoted my life to it. I use name calling in trials, though very subtly. But I primarily win by making logical and persuasive arguments, like I do on this forum. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/08/2014 03:26 PM
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Edited: 06/09/2014 at 11:29 AM by surf4fun |
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06/05/2014 09:27 AM
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Of course he would. Who would you expect for him to use - a sworn enemy? *Dumb comment. Your disclaimers are always at the bottom. |
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06/05/2014 10:12 AM
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Tpap, all you have to do is google Rick Scott's Chief of Staff and who he used to work for and who gets the contract for Sunrail. Adam Hollingsworth -> CSX
Also, for shit-n-giggles Adam Hollingsworth got caught lying on his resume' about a degree he didn't get but still is Rick Scott's Chief of Staff. So much for ethics.... |
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06/05/2014 10:35 AM
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Ok, read up on it. This was well underway and approved before Scott became Governor. Indeed, after Scott became governor, he put the project on hold, pending a review. Have to do better than that, progs. ------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/05/2014 10:38 AM
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No it wasn't. The people of Florida voted for high speed rail, Rick Scott nixed it despite getting a federal grant to help build it. That federal money went to another state. As a consolation for nixing the high speed rail he teams up with his buddy at CSX to make the SunRail for the Orlando area.
You give the press way too much credit. The press helped this crook get elected.
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