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Topic Title: Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019
Topic Summary: Finally got the edits done!
Created On: 10/13/2019 11:26 AM
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 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/13/2019 11:26 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - daner - 10/13/2019 02:31 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - chopola - 10/14/2019 07:49 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 09:16 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - dingpatch - 10/14/2019 09:23 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 09:24 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - worksuxgetsponsered - 10/14/2019 11:19 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - dingpatch - 10/14/2019 11:30 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 02:13 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - SurfCaster - 10/14/2019 02:45 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 03:01 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 03:02 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - Julianuribe23 - 10/15/2019 05:52 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/15/2019 06:31 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - zangmann - 10/15/2019 06:54 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - Julianuribe23 - 10/15/2019 07:14 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - Cole - 10/15/2019 04:33 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/15/2019 04:38 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 09:19 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - matt_t - 10/14/2019 08:51 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - johnnyboy - 10/14/2019 11:46 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - Bev - 10/14/2019 12:12 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - chopola - 10/14/2019 03:10 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 03:35 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - seaspray - 10/14/2019 06:48 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - rawsurf - 10/14/2019 07:53 PM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - ww - 10/15/2019 02:25 AM  
 Surfing Photos (Part 1) from Hurricane Dorian in Delray Beach Sept 3, 2019   - Central Floridave - 10/15/2019 04:39 PM  
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 10/13/2019 11:26 AM
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Delray Beach Sept 3 Hurricane Dorianhttps://www.raw.surf/collection/hurricane-dorian-swell-delray-beach-september-3rd-2019-part-1/
 10/13/2019 02:31 PM
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Yeww!! Dorian was very good to FL. Altough apparently not to the inlet bridge.

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Belongs in the for sale forum. If your not going to let us view your photos.
 10/14/2019 09:16 AM
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Photos are view-able in thumbnail in the catalog. Subscribe only to purchase and share.

Edited: 10/14/2019 at 09:19 AM by rawsurf
 10/14/2019 09:23 AM
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Ummmmmm but, , , , , your links take me to your "site" but none of the photos are even close to being "clear"; so very fuzzy and "out of focus" looking.

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Originally posted by: dingpatch Ummmmmm but, , , , , your links take me to your "site" but none of the photos are even close to being "clear"; so very fuzzy and "out of focus" looking.
These are all small thumbnail versions of the photos in the catalog. If you try to enlarge, will not work
 10/14/2019 11:19 AM
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Damn....I thought my eyes were going bad.

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 10/14/2019 11:30 AM
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"These are all small thumbnail versions of the photos in the catalog. If you try to enlarge, will not work"

Well, and so, you REALLY need to change the look of your "splash" page. When I click on a link, I want to see what I expect to see! When your page opens, all of the photos are garbage. They are not "thumbnails" and I have not tried to "enlarge" them.

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 10/14/2019 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by: dingpatch "These are all small thumbnail versions of the photos in the catalog. If you try to enlarge, will not work" Well, and so, you REALLY need to change the look of your "splash" page. When I click on a link, I want to see what I expect to see! When your page opens, all of the photos are garbage. They are not "thumbnails" and I have not tried to "enlarge" them.
For access to high resolution versions of the photos, please subscribe. However we are working on making the thumbnails more clear to the desktop user on catalog page that is view-able for free so guys can see if they got their shot (as cell seems to display better), but at the same time we are trying to prevent photo theft, i.e. someone taking a screen shot without signing up.
 10/14/2019 02:45 PM
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Might want to provide a sample of the good photos before we subscribe so we know we're not getting burned.

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 10/14/2019 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by: SurfCaster Might want to provide a sample of the good photos before we subscribe so we know we're not getting burned.
Surfcaster, that is the point of the low quality thumbnails, so you can see we captured your shot. "Getting burned" works both ways. If we put out high resolution images off the bat, what keeps people from screen shot/stealing them? For now, we're going to try and improve the thumbnail quality output slightly enough so you can see its you on the wave. The subscription cost is cheap, and will be including a limited number of high resolution downloads with each signup.
 10/14/2019 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by: rawsurf
Originally posted by: SurfCaster Might want to provide a sample of the good photos before we subscribe so we know we're not getting burned.
Surfcaster, that is the point of the low quality thumbnails, so you can see we captured your shot. "Getting burned" works both ways. If we put out high resolution images off the bat, what keeps people from screen shot/stealing them? For now, we're going to try and improve the thumbnail quality output slightly enough so you can see its you on the wave. The subscription cost is cheap, and will be including a limited number of high resolution downloads with each signup.
Each photo posted has a correlating high resolution copy associated with it. If you look at our work online, you will see for yourself we do not put out bad work.

Edited: 10/14/2019 at 03:03 PM by rawsurf
 10/15/2019 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by: rawsurf
Originally posted by: dingpatch "These are all small thumbnail versions of the photos in the catalog. If you try to enlarge, will not work" Well, and so, you REALLY need to change the look of your "splash" page. When I click on a link, I want to see what I expect to see! When your page opens, all of the photos are garbage. They are not "thumbnails" and I have not tried to "enlarge" them.
For access to high resolution versions of the photos, please subscribe. However we are working on making the thumbnails more clear to the desktop user on catalog page that is view-able for free so guys can see if they got their shot (as cell seems to display better), but at the same time we are trying to prevent photo theft, i.e. someone taking a screen shot without signing up.
This is a pretty poor method to execute that imo. No one wants to subscribe only to find out theres no photo of themselves
 10/15/2019 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Julianuribe23
Originally posted by: rawsurf
Originally posted by: dingpatch "These are all small thumbnail versions of the photos in the catalog. If you try to enlarge, will not work" Well, and so, you REALLY need to change the look of your "splash" page. When I click on a link, I want to see what I expect to see! When your page opens, all of the photos are garbage. They are not "thumbnails" and I have not tried to "enlarge" them.
For access to high resolution versions of the photos, please subscribe. However we are working on making the thumbnails more clear to the desktop user on catalog page that is view-able for free so guys can see if they got their shot (as cell seems to display better), but at the same time we are trying to prevent photo theft, i.e. someone taking a screen shot without signing up.
This is a pretty poor method to execute that imo. No one wants to subscribe only to find out theres no photo of themselves
Not sure if you're comprehending the message we're putting out Julianuribe23. We were implementing a system that distorts photos that aren't "selected" to help deter screen shotting. It wasn't working properly, so we changed it until we can fix the settings to work properly. All the thumbnails are now view-able without subscription. Subscribe to have access to social sharing and purchasing high resolution/non-watermarked copies. Thank you
 10/15/2019 06:54 AM
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I understand what you are trying to do, but you probably need to go about it another way.

FYI - full sized (watermarked) image URLs are in plaintext when viewing source. I imagine altering the filenames would allow a nefarious individual to download un-watermarked images. Something like changing '_marked' to '_subscribe' or '_full' or '_original'.

Limit your upload size on these preview images, don't upload the largest size you have available - keep it to something like 600 wide, max.

Please understand that once something is on the net you basically no longer own it. Good luck in your efforts.



Edited: 10/15/2019 at 06:55 AM by zangmann
 10/15/2019 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by: zangmann I understand what you are trying to do, but you probably need to go about it another way.

FYI - full sized (watermarked) image URLs are in plaintext when viewing source. I imagine altering the filenames would allow a nefarious individual to download un-watermarked images. Something like changing '_marked' to '_subscribe' or '_full' or '_original'.

Limit your upload size on these preview images, don't upload the largest size you have available - keep it to something like 600 wide, max.

Please understand that once something is on the net you basically no longer own it. Good luck in your efforts.

I think that would be a solid idea. I understand he wants to protect his product but there has to be an effective method that works in the favor of the surfers being able to preview the content
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Just post a few non surfing or poorly times shots to show image quality.

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 10/15/2019 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by: zangmann I understand what you are trying to do, but you probably need to go about it another way.

FYI - full sized (watermarked) image URLs are in plaintext when viewing source. I imagine altering the filenames would allow a nefarious individual to download un-watermarked images. Something like changing '_marked' to '_subscribe' or '_full' or '_original'.

Limit your upload size on these preview images, don't upload the largest size you have available - keep it to something like 600 wide, max.

Please understand that once something is on the net you basically no longer own it. Good luck in your efforts.

Thank you; exactly why we don't upload any unmarked images alongside the watermarked copies. Those are left offline, sent by email after purchase. We're going to watermark through the entire image next round and see how the response goes with that LOL
 10/14/2019 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by: chopola Belongs in the for sale forum. If your not going to let us view your photos.
Photos are view-able in thumbnail in the catalog. Subscribe only to purchase high res and share on social media.

Edited: 10/14/2019 at 09:23 AM by rawsurf
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Thnx for sharing / not sharing
 10/14/2019 11:46 AM
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Too blurry and small. I guess the big ones that cost money are good but I just had a passing interest. Good luck.

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 10/14/2019 12:12 PM
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wtf is that shit?!
 10/14/2019 03:10 PM
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chopola

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I would think the watermark would be enough. Until you figure out how to display your pics It just looks like a business to me. For Sale forum.
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Originally posted by: chopola I would think the watermark would be enough. Until you figure out how to display your pics It just looks like a business to me. For Sale forum.
Unfortunately what you think isn't correct; watermarking images isn't enough to prevent people from stealing photos Chopola. There is a huge issue with photographers getting taken advantage of and not getting paid in the surfing industry. In the meantime however, we will change the catalog permissions so that a user doesn't have to subscribe to purchase/social share, until we fix the issue surrounding out of focus images on the thumbnails that people can see for free, and add more information as to what people get in their subscription. Thank you
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Watermark the word "kook" all over the photo, not just in one of the corners. Are there software out there that removes watermarks? BTW, I follow your page on FB, great pics
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rawsurf

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Originally posted by: seaspray Watermark the word "kook" all over the photo, not just in one of the corners. Are there software out there that removes watermarks? BTW, I follow your page on FB, great pics
lol thank you Seaspray
 10/15/2019 02:25 AM
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ww

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Swiping imagery is a huge problem and, as best I can tell, rawsurf's precautions are pretty much essential. Some do sell photos via Instagram-size images, but that tends to be prolific daily/weekly output and I bet such people may be keeping the very best somewhat out of sight. I should have an interesting night surf photo calendar showing up in a few days. Will do a review if it's good.
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I was in Lauderdale for Dorian. . There was a fine line on where it was good and when it wasn't. Typical South Florida! Although I had my board w/me, i didn't go. Shooting myself now after seeing the photos.
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