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WG

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Wikipedia

NASA

UN

IPCC


Just some of the science, for those interested.

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It's really climate anxiety, as the climate is always changing WG. No NSR intended Discuss,
 08/11/2022 04:07 AM
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Fall is coming!

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I was just up in Nashville. The climate there has already changed to only 2 seasons: winter, and construction.

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Ok John Kerry lmao CLOWN
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WG

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Did you read any of it lizard?
Or are you keeping yourself unaware intentionally?

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Originally posted by: WG

Did you read any of it lizard?

Or are you keeping yourself unaware intentionally?


Don't bother with the assclown



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"Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.


If I do not answer you .... nothing personal, I just have you on ignore.
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I know our overnight lows in July-September have been about 5 degree warmer during the last 15 years than during any period during the prior century and that has come with increase dew points as well. I also know we haven't had a freeze at our house since 2011 and that is quite a long period compared to prior records.

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One of the hard things is working with public perception that is so skewed or indifferent. Think Civil Rights for example. Even after a monumental war, people tried to continue as previously for decades and generations. I fear this situation is much the same in time scale with the monumental changes still to come. Sigh.

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And, I forgot to say, six more till NSR?

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Originally posted by: tom

One of the hard things is working with public perception that is so skewed or indifferent. Think Civil Rights for example. Even after a monumental war, people tried to continue as previously for decades and generations. I fear this situation is much the same in time scale with the monumental changes still to come. Sigh.


The politicalizing of science by the GOQP could very well lead to catastrophe



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Originally posted by: scombrid

I know our overnight lows in July-September have been about 5 degree warmer during the last 15 years than during any period during the prior century and that has come with increase dew points as well. I also know we haven't had a freeze at our house since 2011 and that is quite a long period compared to prior records.


And it's not exclusive to Florida, the peach people are looking at new peach hybrids to compensate for the lack of cold nights, Dolphin fish and Tuna are moving north - as are cod and salmon, the Corn-belt is taking a hit, cranberries have to be grown farther north and bird migration is moving up by an average of 400 miles.



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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: scombrid I know our overnight lows in July-September have been about 5 degree warmer during the last 15 years than during any period during the prior century and that has come with increase dew points as well. I also know we haven't had a freeze at our house since 2011 and that is quite a long period compared to prior records.
And it's not exclusive to Florida, the peach people are looking at new peach hybrids to compensate for the lack of cold nights, Dolphin fish and Tuna are moving north - as are cod and salmon, the Corn-belt is taking a hit, cranberries have to be grown farther north and bird migration is moving up by an average of 400 miles.
I just grubbed out a "gulf beauty" plum tree that was bred to bloom and fruit on as little as 150 chill hours to make room for another tropical fruit tree because the plum hasn't gone dormant in years and never fruits.

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You libs are so funny, spewing the things you've witness change in the tiny amount of time you've been on earth, then trying to compare it to father time.. "Birds are flying east and west now instead of north and south" "plums wont grow right" "the worms are closer to earths core more now then they've ever been!" Its comical!
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Originally posted by: LBLarry
Originally posted by: WG Did you read any of it lizard? Or are you keeping yourself unaware intentionally?
Don't bother with the assclown
Thought you had me blocked dumbass Larry, guess not. I live rent free in your libtard brain
 08/12/2022 11:05 AM
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well, did you?

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Interesting tid-bit:

With some of the hottest summers on record for several decades in many parts of the world, it must be doing wonders for solar power, right? As the world heats up, people may think that more sun will bring more solar energy, even if it has been negative for many other reasons. But soaring temperatures may be hindering solar power production as solar panels work optimally at around 77F and start becoming less efficient when the heat goes above this. And even if the heat does not hamper solar production, it is also doing little to help it.

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WG

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no, it's sad.
None of those links I posted are from "libs".
They are from scientists.
You didn't read any of them.

You won't even try to understand, so you throw out dumb shit like that.


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a glimmer there though

We ARE "witnessing change in the tiny amount of time we've been on earth, that would have happened anyway , some day maybe, but on the scales previously reserved for "father time".

Humans, the billions of us, are a powerful force,

Read some of that stuff, put politics aside.
The Wikipedia page is a nice start

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Again, Antarctica and Greenland ice cores show that in-the-past there have been "dramatic" temperature changes in as little as 75 years.

And, we aint helping matters.

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What's not helping is that even if we do anything, it's gonna take tons of fossil fuels to get china, india, and the rest of the other 3rd world countries OFF of fossil fuels. Discuss,
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spewing the things you've witness change in the tiny amount of time you've been on earth

That's the problem. It is happening far faster than predicted.

You do understand there needs to be a reason for the warming, right? If it's not us, and the shit we spew, what is it?

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It has zero to do with politics and everything to do with the billions of morons like you using Wiki as a source
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How about the IPCC, NASA and the UN?

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Originally posted by: waterlizard25

It has zero to do with politics and everything to do with the billions of morons like you using Wiki as a source



You do understand there needs to be a reason for the warming, right? If it's not us, and the shit we spew, what is it?



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Based on analysis from NOAA's Global Monitoring Lab, global average atmospheric carbon dioxide was 414.72 parts per million in 2021, setting a new record high despite the continued economic drag from the COVID-19 pandemic.

Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA's Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory not seen for millions of years, scientists from NOAA and Scripps Institution of Oceanography

Undeniable data

An unprecedented extreme rate of change in the physical properties of the earth's atmosphere.

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it's gonna take whatever it takes, no real choice here about doing it.
India faces disaster if we don't, China has plenty of coastal cities too.
Most of the pain will be faced by 3rd world nations.
Many have little fossil fuel industries or infrastructure.
They can start industrializing green.
All are committed to reducing emissions.
It's mostly US that've been dragging heels.




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Originally posted by: WG It's mostly US that've been dragging heels.
no way man, that could never happen. we are the "shining light on the hill"
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What's' wrong with Wiki?
You see something inaccurate there?,
you FIX IT.

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The Wiki Summary:

Contemporary climate change includes both global warming and its impacts on Earth's weather patterns. There have been previous periods of climate change, but the current changes are distinctly more rapid and not due to natural causes.[2][3] Instead, they are caused by the emission of greenhouse gases, mostly carbon dioxide (CO2) and methane. Burning fossil fuels for energy production creates most of these emissions. Certain agricultural practices, industrial processes, and forest loss are additional sources.[4] Greenhouse gases are transparent to sunlight, allowing it through to heat the Earth's surface. When the Earth emits that heat as infrared radiation the gases absorb it, trapping the heat near the Earth's surface and causing global warming.

Due to climate change, deserts are expanding, while heat waves and wildfires are becoming more common.[5] Increased warming in the Arctic has contributed to melting permafrost, glacial retreat and sea ice loss.[6] Higher temperatures are also causing more intense storms, droughts, and other weather extremes.[7] Rapid environmental change in mountains, coral reefs, and the Arctic is forcing many species to relocate or become extinct.[8] Climate change threatens people with food and water scarcity, increased flooding, extreme heat, more disease, and economic loss. Human migration and conflict can be a result.[9] The World Health Organization (WHO) calls climate change the greatest threat to global health in the 21st century.[10] Even if efforts to minimise future warming are successful, some effects will continue for centuries. These include sea level rise, and warmer, more acidic oceans.[11]

Many of these impacts are already felt at the current 1.2 °C (2.2 °F) level of warming. Additional warming will increase these impacts and may trigger tipping points, such as the melting of the Greenland ice sheet.[12] Under the 2015 Paris Agreement, nations collectively agreed to keep warming "well under 2 °C". However, with pledges made under the Agreement, global warming would still reach about 2.7 °C (4.9 °F) by the end of the century.[13] Limiting warming to 1.5 °C will require halving emissions by 2030 and achieving net-zero emissions by 2050.[14]

Bobcat Fire in Monrovia, CA, September 10, 2020
Bleached colony of Acropora coral
A dry riverbed in California, which is experiencing its worst megadrought in 1,200 years.[15]
Some effects of climate change, clockwise from top left: Wildfire intensified by heat and drought, worsening droughts compromising water supplies, and bleaching of coral caused by ocean acidification and heating.
Making deep cuts in emissions will require switching away from burning fossil fuels and towards using electricity generated from low-carbon sources. This includes phasing out coal-fired power plants, vastly increasing use of wind, solar, and other types of renewable energy, and taking measures to reduce energy use. Electricity will need to replace fossil fuels for powering transportation, heating buildings, and operating industrial facilities.[16][17] Carbon can also be removed from the atmosphere, for instance by increasing forest cover and by farming with methods that capture carbon in soil.[18] While communities may adapt to climate change through efforts like better coastline protection, they cannot avert the risk of severe, widespread, and permanent impacts.[19]

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 08/18/2022 at 02:35 PM by WG
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