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This could be a new and unprecedented low in the history of our nation's legislative branch by way of a circus side show, and a harbinger of a new federal order. My fear is that our Constitution may not fair well through the day's events. Imagine, an established successful government irrevocably altered by way of a circus side show. Leftist strategy number 1 isn't it?
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"In the Paul Manafort case alone, you recovered as much as $42 million - so that the cost of your investigation to the taxpayers approaches zero."
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"The report did not exonerate Trump." -Mueller
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"The report did not conclude he did not obstruct justice?" Mueller: No "Did it exonerate Trump on obstruction?" Mueller: No
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It appears the the circus is within the GOP senate and the AG.
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Didn't any WH official refuse to be interviewed by you and your team? Mueller: Yes, the President.
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BENGHAZI! lol

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"Did one campaign benefit from the Russian interference in the 2016 election?" Mueller: Yes, that would be Trimp, I mean Trump.
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Ratcliff asking questions and cutting off Mueller and answering for him. More GOP circus.
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Why did Republicans freak out when Mueller asked for his second-hand to be there?

Hell, for that matter, if there is nothing to the Russia investigation, why do you even care if Mueller speaks? It will just fortify Trump's position, will it not?

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Originally posted by: Cole

Why did Republicans freak out when Mueller asked for his second-hand to be there?



Hell, for that matter, if there is nothing to the Russia investigation, why do you even care if Mueller speaks? It will just fortify Trump's position, will it not?


Yeah, the report "exonerates him" yet they want to discredit him. Total clownery.
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Mueller refusing to discuss Russia probe origins, affirms no election conspiracy found, why no discussion on how it started?

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Originally posted by: crankit

Mueller refusing to discuss Russia probe origins, affirms no election conspiracy found, why no discussion on how it started?


Because he had no bearing on how it started. He was assigned by the acting AG moron.
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Originally posted by: crankit

Mueller refusing to discuss Russia probe origins, affirms no election conspiracy found, why no discussion on how it started?



Are you even watching the hearing? This was stated early on in the opening statements. All these knucklheads criticizing this thing but do not read the report nor watch the hearings. They "know better". The Director of the FBI, assigned by Trump, hasn't even read the full report FFS

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: crankit



Mueller refusing to discuss Russia probe origins, affirms no election conspiracy found, why no discussion on how it started?




Because he had no bearing on how it started. He was assigned by the acting AG moron.


Yeah but Trump said bad things, yeah but yeah but yeah but. Bad optics for dumocrats ;Trump game, set match. Dems will be sore losers from now till eternity. Toast!!!!!!
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Originally posted by: Zeus This could be a new and unprecedented low in the history of our nation's legislative branch by way of a circus side show, and a harbinger of a new federal order. My fear is that our Constitution may not fair well through the day's events. Imagine, an established successful government irrevocably altered by way of a circus side show. Leftist strategy number 1 isn't it?
Which part of our Constitution is in danger of not surviving?

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Originally posted by: all3

Originally posted by: Zeus

This could be a new and unprecedented low in the history of our nation's legislative branch by way of a circus side show, and a harbinger of a new federal order. My fear is that our Constitution may not fair well through the day's events. Imagine, an established successful government irrevocably altered by way of a circus side show. Leftist strategy number 1 isn't it?

Which part of our Constitution is in danger of not surviving?


That's the new line of attack from the Right. FK's latest cut and paste is crammed full of Constitutional horrors. Unfounded of course.

Brown people and Iran aren't doing the fear trick anymore, so they are fishing once again. Will it get traction? Maybe, but much of it might be too entrenched in real politics for the average Trump fan to care.



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Originally posted by: all3

Originally posted by: Zeus

This could be a new and unprecedented low in the history of our nation's legislative branch by way of a circus side show, and a harbinger of a new federal order. My fear is that our Constitution may not fair well through the day's events. Imagine, an established successful government irrevocably altered by way of a circus side show. Leftist strategy number 1 isn't it?


Which part of our Constitution is in danger of not surviving?


Article II
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"Could Trump be charged when he leaves office?" Mueller: True.

We have a sitting president that committed a crime and GOP does nada.

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Impeachment proceedings start yet? This has been one of the funniest things that I can remember. Thanks to you who have been willing to make fools out of yourselves time and time again to provide humor for the rest of us.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Impeachment proceedings start yet? This has been one of the funniest things that I can remember. Thanks to you who have been willing to make fools out of yourselves time and time again to provide humor for the rest of us.


Impeachment won't happen. We know that. However it is now fact that Trump committed crimes. He will be charged when he leaves office in 2020.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: tpapablo Impeachment proceedings start yet? This has been one of the funniest things that I can remember. Thanks to you who have been willing to make fools out of yourselves time and time again to provide humor for the rest of us.
Impeachment won't happen. We know that. However it is now fact that Trump committed crimes. He will be charged when he leaves office in 2020.
No, it is not fact that Trump has committed crimes. You are skipping from one delusion to another.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Impeachment proceedings start yet? This has been one of the funniest things that I can remember. Thanks to you who have been willing to make fools out of yourselves time and time again to provide humor for the rest of us.




Impeachment won't happen. We know that. However it is now fact that Trump committed crimes. He will be charged when he leaves office in 2020.


No, it is not fact that Trump has committed crimes. You are skipping from one delusion to another.


They just said it in the hearing. LOL The Clown Prince is at it again.
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They just confirmed again, multiple times again, that Trump in fact obstructed justice. This is a crime BTW. You're a lawyer? Hmmmm A lawyer in Clownville?
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trump says the Mueller report exonerated him, Mueller says it didn't. Who is lying?

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House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Rep. Doug Collins, R-Ga., focused his questions on the former Special Counsel's findings that the investigation did not establish any conspiracy between President Trump and Russia. Collins asked Mueller if "conspiracy" and "collusion" were colloquially the same thing, and Mueller said no. Collins then quoted Mueller's own report, which indicated otherwise.
"As defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute," Collins read from the report. "Now, you said you chose your words carefully. Are you contradicting your report right now?"
"Not when I read it," Mueller replied, prompting Collins to ask, "So you would change your answer to yes?"
"No, no, the uh, if you look at the language," Mueller said before trailing off.
Collins pressed further, saying, "I'm reading your report sir. It's a yes or no answer."
Mueller asked for the page number of the report, then stammered before saying he would "leave it with the report." When Collins stated that the report says that the terms "collusion" and "conspiracy" are synonymous, Mueller said, "Yes."

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Originally posted by: crankit

House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Rep. Doug Collins, R-Ga., focused his questions on the former Special Counsel's findings that the investigation did not establish any conspiracy between President Trump and Russia. Collins asked Mueller if "conspiracy" and "collusion" were colloquially the same thing, and Mueller said no. Collins then quoted Mueller's own report, which indicated otherwise.


"As defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute," Collins read from the report. "Now, you said you chose your words carefully. Are you contradicting your report right now?"


"Not when I read it," Mueller replied, prompting Collins to ask, "So you would change your answer to yes?"


"No, no, the uh, if you look at the language," Mueller said before trailing off.


Collins pressed further, saying, "I'm reading your report sir. It's a yes or no answer."


Mueller asked for the page number of the report, then stammered before saying he would "leave it with the report." When Collins stated that the report says that the terms "collusion" and "conspiracy" are synonymous, Mueller said, "Yes."


Wow he got Mueller to stumble. Bravo. Meanwhile you are overlooking every single time he agreed that the President committed obstruction of Justice with "substantial evidence". Why? Because you do not want Trump to be guilty and you want to discredit the Special Counsel. As well as the multiple times he stated that the report does not exonerate the President as the Prez and GOP states it does. Why? Disregarding facts, that's why. Creating a false narrative... "If Trump was not president he could be indicted." Mueller: TRUE

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Originally posted by: all3 trump says the Mueller report exonerated him, Mueller says it didn't. Who is lying?
Neither. Exonerate can be used as a legal term or a nonlegal term. On the legal side, prosecutors do not exonerate anyone. They either prosecute or don't. Thus, Mueller was absolutely correct in saying that his report did not exonerate anyone in the legal sense. The report, however, didn't find that Trump had committed crimes, which is what this entire thing was about. Thus he was exonerated in the nonlegal sense. He too was correct.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: all3

trump says the Mueller report exonerated him, Mueller says it didn't. Who is lying?


Neither. Exonerate can be used as a legal term or a nonlegal term. On the legal side, prosecutors do not exonerate anyone. They either prosecute or don't. Thus, Mueller was absolutely correct in saying that his report did not exonerate anyone in the legal sense. The report, however, didn't find that Trump had committed crimes, which is what this entire thing was about. Thus he was exonerated in the nonlegal sense. He too was correct.



False ^^


"If Trump was not president he could be indicted." Mueller: TRUE

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"The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opiion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president. Correct? Mueller: That is correct.

Trump committed crimes.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital "The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opiion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president. Correct? Mueller: That is correct. Trump committed crimes.
Nope. You are back to wallowing in ignorance.

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No collusion and no obstruction is a lie.
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

"The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opiion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president. Correct? Mueller: That is correct.



Trump committed crimes.


Nope. You are back to wallowing in ignorance.


And you are making crap up for your clown show as usual.
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Now they asked if it were anyone else that did the things Trump did in the obstruction portion and if they would be indicted. Mueller said yes. LOL SMH
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Post hearing/moral of the story: If this were anyone else, they would be indicted. The sitting president, DJT, committed indictable crimes.
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As did Hillbitch and odumbo!

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Originally posted by: crankit

As did Hillbitch and odumbo!


This is false and a distraction. Meanwhile this next hearing, they just listed and confirmed by Mueller many many instances where Trump, familiy and associates lied mislead the public about dealings with Russia. You are still not concerned because you think two other government officials got away with something but have no evidence. You my friend are broken.

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You have obviously never worked in a Secure environment!! (NDA)

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Originally posted by: crankit

You have obviously never worked in a Secure environment!! (NDA)


You obviously do not know me. And you obviously do not study history based on facts. This thread is about Trump, not Clinton nor Obama and or the crimes they did not commit during a time when GOP held both House and Senate. You are now admitting you don't care Trump committed crimes.

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They just confirmed their was collusion.
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AP FACT CHECK on Mueller

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Originally posted by: Pagerow

AP FACT CHECK on Mueller


All the facts in the world wont change their minds. It is apparent tpap and the like just chime in once in a while to throw out unfounded insults and accusations of failure because the reality that Trump and his crew are criminals is being laid out clearly in front of us.
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You struck out again, Hap. What is the next failure on your agenda?

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

You struck out again, Hap. What is the next failure on your agenda?


LOL you keep stating this similar statement with no facts backing it. Whereas every post I made here has facts supporting it. How does one pass the bar in Clownsville, a coupon from a sugary cereal box?
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: tpapablo You struck out again, Hap. What is the next failure on your agenda?
LOL you keep stating this similar statement with no facts backing it. Whereas every post I made here has facts supporting it. How does one pass the bar in Clownsville, a coupon from a sugary cereal box?
Thank you for getting back to me on that so quickly. I would note, however, that my question on your next failure was rhetorical.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: tpapablo



You struck out again, Hap. What is the next failure on your agenda?




LOL you keep stating this similar statement with no facts backing it. Whereas every post I made here has facts supporting it. How does one pass the bar in Clownsville, a coupon from a sugary cereal box?


Thank you for getting back to me on that so quickly. I would note, however, that my question on your next failure was rhetorical.


And you continue to not post any facts, evidence or history to back your claims that I failed in understanding what was said in the hearings and or what is in the Mueller report. Please show where in the report or a clip of Mueller stating there is no evidence of obstruction in his report or that he didn't indict because the OLC decision says he can't. I guess your clown degree does not allow for such things like citing sources or displaying facts to back your statements.
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"If Trump was not president he could be indicted." Mueller: TRUE

"The report did not conclude he did not obstruct justice?" Mueller: No "Did it exonerate Trump on obstruction?" Mueller: No

"Would I be indicted if I did the things that Trump did as far as obstruction?" Mueller: Yes.

Various ways all the same conclusion. A normal person would be indicted.
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We now know Trump is a criminal. The real question is what will Senate do to protect our election from the Russians again? Chances are nothing as they are their biggest asset in holding the WH.
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

"If Trump was not president he could be indicted." Mueller: TRUE



"The report did not conclude he did not obstruct justice?" Mueller: No "Did it exonerate Trump on obstruction?" Mueller: No



"Would I be indicted if I did the things that Trump did as far as obstruction?" Mueller: Yes.



Various ways all the same conclusion. A normal person would be indicted.


Wrong!

(oh...and I thought you had me on ignore.....LIAR! oh wait....that what you do! FOOL!)

"I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said and I quote, 'You didn't charge the President because of the OLC opinion. That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime." Mueller

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So crap might understand;
"I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said and I quote, 'You didn't charge the President because of the OLC opinion. That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime."
Mueller made it clear that he did not intend to support Lieu's implication that Mueller would have indicted Trump if not for the OLC opinion. That would have meant that Mueller determined that Trump committed a crime, but could not do anything about it. What Mueller meant was that the OLC opinion kept him from even deciding if an indictment would be warranted in the first place.

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Poor, old Hap. He is wrong about everything. No crime, no impeachment, no Trump is going down. Now in Hap's defense, all progs are wrong about everything. So he is not alone.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Poor, old Hap. He is wrong about everything. No crime, no impeachment, no Trump is going down. Now in Hap's defense, all progs are wrong about everything. So he is not alone.


Wrong about what? 4 other instances Mueller stated what "Trimp" did was an indictable offense. The problem is the OLC determination which did not allow Mueller to make a decision or determination. But the bulk of the hearing he stated anyone else would be indicted. Are you that dumb? Really? You did not watch the hearings, and this is a fact. Criticizing something you did not watch, talk about wallowing in ignorance....

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Poor, old Hap. He is wrong about everything. No crime, no impeachment, no Trump is going down. Now in Hap's defense, all progs are wrong about everything. So he is not alone.




Wrong about what? 4 other instances Mueller stated what "Trimp" did was an indictable offense. The problem is the OLC determination which did not allow Mueller to make a decision or determination. But the bulk of the hearing he stated anyone else would be indicted. Are you that dumb? Really? You did not watch the hearings, and this is a fact. Criticizing something you did not watch, talk about wallowing in ignorance....


Yo....SHITFORBRAINS!

CAN YOU READ?!?!?!

"I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said and I quote, 'You didn't charge the President because of the OLC opinion. That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime."

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital
Originally posted by: tpapablo Poor, old Hap. He is wrong about everything. No crime, no impeachment, no Trump is going down. Now in Hap's defense, all progs are wrong about everything. So he is not alone.
Wrong about what? 4 other instances Mueller stated what "Trimp" did was an indictable offense. The problem is the OLC determination which did not allow Mueller to make a decision or determination. But the bulk of the hearing he stated anyone else would be indicted. Are you that dumb? Really? You did not watch the hearings, and this is a fact. Criticizing something you did not watch, talk about wallowing in ignorance....
Mueller did not say that Trump committed an indictable offense. But I have learned that no fact will get through to you. Enjoy your fantasy world and we'll enjoy making fun of you.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Poor, old Hap. He is wrong about everything. No crime, no impeachment, no Trump is going down. Now in Hap's defense, all progs are wrong about everything. So he is not alone.




Wrong about what? 4 other instances Mueller stated what "Trimp" did was an indictable offense. The problem is the OLC determination which did not allow Mueller to make a decision or determination. But the bulk of the hearing he stated anyone else would be indicted. Are you that dumb? Really? You did not watch the hearings, and this is a fact. Criticizing something you did not watch, talk about wallowing in ignorance....


Mueller did not say that Trump committed an indictable offense. But I have learned that no fact will get through to you. Enjoy your fantasy world and we'll enjoy making fun of you.


You apparently did not watch the hearing in full. He stated various times they would have arrested anyone else that did these same actions. He cannot indict nor can he make the decision to indicting a president as per the Lieu comment walk back. You are arguing something you did not watch. It is apparent. You continue to wallow in your ignorance as you state it.



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So KKKrankit can understand....

Originally posted by: HAPDigital

"If Trump was not president he could be indicted." Mueller: TRUE



"The report did not conclude he did not obstruct justice?" Mueller: No "Did it exonerate Trump on obstruction?" Mueller: No



"Would I be indicted if I did the things that Trump did as far as obstruction?" Mueller: Yes.



Various ways all the same conclusion. A normal person would be indicted.


Many many other instances that this was presented that was not walked back. There was something specific about the wording of the response to Lieu. However, every other angle that was asked was not walked back. We have a criminal in the WH because if you and I did these same things he would have indicted. This was discussed multiple times over and over. However, you did not watch the hearings. You just waited for your favorite news outlet to post something that you liked and went with it. Everything posted here was as I heard it during the 2 hearings. He didn't determine there was a crime because he is not allowed to because a sitting president. However, if anyone else did what trump did, indictment...

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How the investigation started:
"In May, 2017, the Acting Attorney General asked me to serve as Special Counsel. I undertook that role because I believed that it was of paramount interest to the nation to determine whether a foreign adversary had interfered in the presidential election.

As the Acting Attorney General said at the time, the appointment was "necessary in order for the American people to have full confidence in the outcome."

"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious."

Why did the POTUS put so much effort into obstructing such an important investigation?
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

How the investigation started:

"In May, 2017, the Acting Attorney General asked me to serve as Special Counsel. I undertook that role because I believed that it was of paramount interest to the nation to determine whether a foreign adversary had interfered in the presidential election.



As the Acting Attorney General said at the time, the appointment was "necessary in order for the American people to have full confidence in the outcome."



"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious."



Why did the POTUS put so much effort into obstructing such an important investigation?


And continues to side with Putin on this matter.
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GOP asking origin questions multiple times. Mueller: That's outside my purview.

They want to discredit the investigation so badly. Why? Trump was "exonerated".
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And continues to side with Putin on this matter.

Or the Chinese or North Koreans or the Dutch; by his own words anyway.

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LOL funny Zeus still thinks this investigation was started by "leftists". This investigation started when GOP had both the House and the Senate and was initiated by Republican led DOJ. LOL Morons

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2020....

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of course he did. Let twitler be. He is a source of embarrassment for every GOP person with half a functioning brain and any moral values.
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As expected and as-per-usual: "Have you stopped beating your wife? Answer yes or no."

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What's the loaded question? The question that says Trump is a criminal and obstructed justice which it states in the report? How many ways and how many times can they ask this question and get the answer before they agree to believe the answer and truth that Trump committed multiple crimes based on obstruction? The conclusion is Senate is failing to do its job and impeach. They'd rather discredit a war hero special counsel that was appointed by themselves, the gop.

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Ummmm, , , , before the Senate can try and then convict, the House must first indict (impeach).

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

Ummmm, , , , before the Senate can try and then convict, the House must first indict (impeach).


But they know it will lead to GOP Senate not convicting. The point of this hearing is for it to be known Trump committed crimes but the Senate is overlooking it and looking for something else that is not the issue. GOP Senate is misleading the public. So is the AG. No collusion and no obstruction is a lie

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One doesn't have to prove innocence, one has to be proved guilty, beyond any reasonable doubt.

That would mean that one needs to be CHARGED first!

Show us one instance in the Muller report where Trump actually committed a crime!

That doesn't exist!

FOOL!

"I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said and I quote, 'You didn't charge the President because of the OLC opinion. That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime." Mueller

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Bottom line: the details in the report justify impeachment and conviction of Trump, for multiple acts of obstruction, and for knowingly accepting assistance from a foreign government during the election.

Also big news: Trunp is still the subject of an ongoing counterintelligence investigation(s).

Money, money, money... laundering
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Bottom line: the details in the report justify impeachment and conviction of Trump, for multiple acts of obstruction, and for knowingly accepting assistance from a foreign government during the election.



Also big news: Trunp is still the subject of an ongoing counterintelligence investigation(s).



Money, money, money... laundering


Yup, the Gang of 8 has not been briefed in 2 years. Mueller confirmed that the FBI is currently looking into Trump associates vulnerabilities to Russian blackmail. It's a tight investigation.
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Demrage in action, yeah but yeah but
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Demrage in action, yeah but yeah but


No rage here whatsoever. However, you guys are lobbing insults at me one after another. I think the rage is on your side. I was just noting interesting questions and responses during the hearing because I know you guys will cherry pick what works for you from the hearing after and not watch it at all yourselves. This is what Trump and the GOP have going for the, none of their supporters will watch it. Just watch the narratives spun by his state media outlets. Anyway yes, Mueller walked back that one comment. However, it does not walk back everything else that was said and he did say on multiple occasions that if anyone else did what Trump did they would be indicted. So we have, on any other standards, a criminal in the WH. That's where things stand.

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"I want to add one correction to my testimony this morning," Mueller said. "I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu, who said and I quote, 'You didn't charge the President because of the OLC opinion. That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime."

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Hap you are doing great. You are handily embarrassing this stale group of loyal twitler warriors. I love the rage part! I'm quite happy with what happened. Meuller said he couldn't indict twitler so he didn't. Investigations are on going and the fat sack the GOP geezers love (who has met with Vladimir Putin many times while not meeting with Mueller even though he was totally innocent) is fighting the release of documents. Yes that is strange for somebody that is innocent.
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Kudos to HAP fighting off a mob of lemmings singlehandedly.

Any intelligent person looking at this testimony in an objective manner can see that this doesn't look good for Trump.

The Trumpanzees on here are just parroting back their assigned talking points. In fact, I tuned in to Fox for awhile just to see what Tpapski was going to say about 2 hours in the future LOL.

Lyin Fish is doing a great job as a GOP fax machine- posting it straight from the source to 2nd Light. Cheater is drunk and making no sense as usual, and Crackhit is going on about Hillary and Obama as is that pony's one trick.

Bottom line is, Trump's future move is going to need to be trying for a 3rd term and then on to become America's first dictator, because it's looking like the cuffs will be waiting for him otherwise.

At least all his buddies will already be in there waiting for him

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As i said months ago, this is over. done. Best you win the 2020 election.

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The Repugs looked like a group of monkeys that couldn't hit the wall with their shit. Pathetic.

This sure didn't do Trumpo any favors. Sure, you zealots won't/don't care, but you are a large minority, so that doesn't matter.

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Originally posted by: fishkller

Kudos to HAP fighting off a mob of lemmings singlehandedly.



Any intelligent person looking at this testimony in an objective manner can see that this doesn't look good for Trump.



The Trumpanzees on here are just parroting back their assigned talking points. In fact, I tuned in to Fox for awhile just to see what Tpapski was going to say about 2 hours in the future LOL.



Lyin Fish is doing a great job as a GOP fax machine- posting it straight from the source to 2nd Light. Cheater is drunk and making no sense as usual, and Crackhit is going on about Hillary and Obama as is that pony's one trick.



Bottom line is, Trump's future move is going to need to be trying for a 3rd term and then on to become America's first dictator, because it's looking like the cuffs will be waiting for him otherwise.



At least all his buddies will already be in there waiting for him



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LOL


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Originally posted by: fishkller Bottom line is, Trump's future move is going to need to be trying for a 3rd term [IMG][/IMG] MIMS FOREVER!
WOW NOWwwwww.), we're not supposed to talk about that out loud not supposed to tell them about that yet!!!!!! I mean one of the first things supreme leader Trump did was buddy up with President Xi and congratulate him on removing term limits from the presidency laws in China, then "joked" with him in front of the cameras haha I might have to try that one day... But what's scary as it damm well may happen as right now democrats are just spinning their wheels with no real plans or agenda. I'm gonna cancel all student loans! Honestly, I think most people say WTF how and that ain't right just doesn't add up; might get votes of fresh college grads in debt but for rest of population economy's up just got budget deal that pushes any national debt dialog - the one thing that might send market into correction - down the road. So economy probably still good at 2020 which makes these extreme ideas by democrats a threat to their financial security. Likewise for health care and many other things. Without a big change to the economy I think it's highly unlikely that any Democrat can defeat Trump. So yeah the thought of bumper stickers saying "support our supreme leader Trump for 2024" may not be to far fetched. And if what we're seeing right now is I've gotta hold back a bit act right a bit as that damm 2020 election thing is coming soon imagine what it'll look like when those wheels come off???? Aghhhhhhhhhhh

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Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: fishkller Bottom line is, Trump's future move is going to need to be trying for a 3rd term [IMG][/IMG] MIMS FOREVER!
WOW NOWwwwww.), we're not supposed to talk about that out loud not supposed to tell them about that yet!!!!!! I mean one of the first things supreme leader Trump did was buddy up with President Xi and congratulate him on removing term limits from the presidency laws in China, then "joked" with him in front of the cameras haha I might have to try that one day... But what's scary as it damm well may happen as right now democrats are just spinning their wheels with no real plans or agenda. I'm gonna cancel all student loans! Honestly, I think most people say WTF how and that ain't right just doesn't add up; might get votes of fresh college grads in debt but for rest of population economy's up just got budget deal that pushes any national debt dialog - the one thing that might send market into correction - down the road. So economy probably still good at 2020 which makes these extreme ideas by democrats a threat to their financial security. Likewise for health care and many other things. Without a big change to the economy I think it's highly unlikely that any Democrat can defeat Trump. So yeah the thought of bumper stickers saying "support our supreme leader Trump for 2024" may not be to far fetched. And if what we're seeing right now is I've gotta hold back a bit act right a bit as that damm 2020 election thing is coming soon imagine what it'll look like when those wheels come off???? Aghhhhhhhhhhh
Good point. Progs should probably start backing off on the criticism of Trump about now. Since he is inevitably going the Nazi dictatorship route, progs should either leave the country or change their tune. We all know what happens to dissenters in Nazi dictatorships, don't we?

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Originally posted by: surferclimber

Originally posted by: fishkller




Bottom line is, Trump's future move is going to need to be trying for a 3rd term [IMG][/IMG]



MIMS FOREVER!




WOW NOWwwwww.), we're not supposed to talk about that out loud not supposed to tell them about that yet!!!!!!

I mean one of the first things supreme leader Trump did was buddy up with President Xi and congratulate him on removing term limits from the presidency laws in China, then "joked" with him in front of the cameras haha I might have to try that one day...

But what's scary as it damm well may happen as right now democrats are just spinning their wheels with no real plans or agenda.

I'm gonna cancel all student loans! Honestly, I think most people say WTF how and that ain't right just doesn't add up; might get votes of fresh college grads in debt but for rest of population economy's up just got budget deal that pushes any national debt dialog - the one thing that might send market into correction - down the road. So economy probably still good at 2020 which makes these extreme ideas by democrats a threat to their financial security. Likewise for health care and many other things. Without a big change to the economy I think it's highly unlikely that any Democrat can defeat Trump. So yeah the thought of bumper stickers saying "support our supreme leader Trump for 2024" may not be to far fetched. And if what we're seeing right now is I've gotta hold back a bit act right a bit as that damm 2020 election thing is coming soon imagine what it'll look like when those wheels come off???? Aghhhhhhhhhhh


When you dissect his record, Trump is less than a mediocre president. He's done nothing but rely on a massive tax cut stimulus and fail at all diplomacy. Now factor in his knife edge win against Clinton, an abominable candidate, and his prospects seem dim, even against the weakest Democratic competitor.

I'd also like to know why there are no longer press conferences and why the only snips of Trump we see are from his prescribed rallies and during his walk to the helicopter to get some McDonald's?



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Now factor in his knife edge win against Clinton,


306..Donald Trump

232...Hillary Clinton

Liar!

Do you EVER tell the truth?


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Yes, and those EC numbers were decided by 80,000 votes in three states.

Damn you are dumb.

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Yes, and those EC numbers were decided by 80,000 votes in three states.
Damn you are dumb.


Hell no they weren't!

The difference between the two numbers is 74.

There are NO 3 (Middle America) states with a total of 74 electoral votes!

ASSHOLE!



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Moron.

http://www.washingtonexaminer....-and-michigan-updated

And thanks to his tariff war, Middle America is done with him.

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Moron.



http://www.washingtonexaminer....ichigan-updated



And thanks to his tariff war, Middle America is done with him.


YO...SHITFORBRAINS!

Pennsylvania: 20

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mueller has stuck to doing his job throughout all the pressure and abuse from both side. maybe he should run for president in the future. he seems to be an honorable person and would put the interests of the country above all else
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Originally posted by: fishkller Kudos to HAP fighting off a mob of lemmings singlehandedly.
cons swarm too. they just have smaller numbers here and are much worse at it. nobody fights their own battles anyway. all about the dog pile. btw, you ever gonna dump that homage account? fk is a parody of himself anyhow, even without your help
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe
btw, you ever gonna dump that homage account? fk is a parody of himself anyhow, even without your help



Funny you say that, I've been thinking the same thing for awhile now. I first created the account so that I could say things that were the exact opposite of FK- like being polite to people , saying "good point" and even apologizing for his behavior- and since we (at the time) had the exact same sig and visually close usernames- it looked like HE said it- and the point was to irritate him by apologizing to people and being *nice* and people might think he was acting nicely LOL

That got old, then I just started F'ing with him, and yes, now he is firmly in self-parody land. There's been no real need for a FK 2.0 for quite some time now.

But the thing is, I think the forum is busted and you can't make any new usernames. Since this is all I have, I may be stuck with it- as outdated as it may be..

Time will tell


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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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