He went to the same law school as TpapPutin

"Gambling in fl is not a crime. Betting on the outcome of a sitting president is not a game of chance".

Looks like Tpap and Trump's folks still think they are in Atlantic City...

they better put their makeup on, fix their hair up pretty!

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I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life

Making up quotes, huh? A person who is in the right need not do that.

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I didn't make anything up.... Look down...



LOL clown show in full effect...

http://www.2ndlight.com/fuseta...ear&#lastunread



Edited: 09/20/2019 at 01:49 PM by HAPDigital

Ohh, piggy, piggy, ms. putie poodle: you so silly.
Everyone knows the l.ie, s.pin, d.istract....,
simply make shit up! playbook you and your fellow botaganda spewing chumpfdirts sheepishly adhere to by now, dork.
Comrade chumpf is doing blatantly treasonous and self promoting, self serving foolish nonsense , again!
Omg, omg! What a surprise! What a scandal! It's all a libtard, Soros driven plot!
again.
Ummm, the fact that this is how your fat orange magat messiah has ALWAYS behaved, throughout his entire useless existence doesn't seem to register with you inbred goobers apparently.
Now THAT'S funny



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It's a democratic hoax

MELTDOWN!




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Starting to get interesting, , , , ,

CNN: trump-giuliani-biden-ukraine

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Dora Hates You

On Friday afternoon, the Wall Street Journal reported that on that phone call Trump pressured the new president "about eight times" to work with Giuliani on Biden, citing people familiar with the matter.

If this is true, interesting is a wild understatement.

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I was right.

https://coloradosun.com/2021/0...n-lawsuit-joe-oltmann/

Guiliani now says that evidence he used to push election fraud cases came from Facebook posts.






Edited: 10/02/2021 at 04:47 PM by follydude

Rudy. Rudy. Rudy.

Let's not focus too much on his theatrical meltdown and admission and focus on what this admission accomplishes. Rudy admits it and places the focus on him, claims that all he was doing was attempting to get a crime investigated and he and trump alternate between asking what's the big deal and why is no one concerned about Biden's crimes.

It may look like a disgraced former mayor modeling incompetence and pinky rings, but it's a well orchestrated effort to steal the thunder of the big reveal and desensitize the faithful with their version before the truth overwhelms them. This is a pattern and it's been effective before.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

.. and meet me tonight..

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"Man, Barack Obama really is the best Kenyan Muslim alinskyite socialist sleeper agent ever.

He's been out of office 3 years and he still managed to use his Deep State minions to trick Trump into soliciting another foreign power to help in an election." -GOP strategist, Rick Wilson

God 9/11 Noserferatu is a brown-nosing shill.


Now back to TRUMP and his foreign meddling- let's keep the focus on the Moscowian Candidate, not his minions.

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I smell a history lesson and whataboutism or maybe whatobamadid brewing. Let's get to the past or the future but nothing about this. The word bombshell gets dropped quite a bit around here so it's lost some of its impact but this is a legitimate bombshell. Let's avoid bothering with liar with his picture of his pants on fire or the blind sniper giving history lessons. Today.


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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Financially beholden man extorted by Russian gangsters uses public office to extort Ukraine.

-> gif of Putin cracking a smile

But, Then Again, anybody who thinks that posts to FaceBook, Instagram and/or Twitter are "interference" is a mindless dolt who perhaps should not vote for anything. But, then again, mindless dolts will argue the point endlessly.

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It was the ufos and chemtrails.

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Sure works on you though.. look at the dumb shit you share on here..

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Cambridge Analytica and polling data were used to deliver sophisticated propaganda to targeted demographics, mostly to program the gullible to fear immigrants, slander Hillary, and support wall boy. This is likely more effective than the billions spend on campaign advertising in the US, and probably just as expensive. I'm sure no favors were expected in return, certainly not discussed in Trump Tower or the numerous other meetings the campaign lied about to the public, Congress and the FBI, just talking about adopting beautiful Russian babies

Super effective. Look at how often these dumbshits have shared memes and material from fake accounts and propaganda news sites; all the while thinking that they are on some patriot page. How many times did they link to Ruptly videos or RT articles? Once is one time too many and they did it all the time. Yournewswire? Zerohedge? NaturalNews?

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Are you saying that's not Rudy confessing to extortion and bribery?

Haha! Yeah boy, we are doing the same thing that Hillary did to Trump. More chickens coming home to roost, progs. There is one difference here - Biden is corrupt.

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Here is Biden bragging about getting his boy off the hook with US taxpayer dollars, nothing the liberal left media is interested in reporting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

Biden is about to go under.

His phony campaign is done.

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Fuck off pencil dick. Quit wasting time and space with your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies.

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I was right.

Listen you POS commie shitforbrains...

Hows your prediction of Killary 'in a landslide' working for you?

Take your worthless bombshells, incorrect prediction and wanton lies and shove them up your ass!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Man, You are absolutely in Love with Hilary. On and On. big titted baby man has a crush

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Susan B. Anthony
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Impeach Trump

The story behind Biden's son, Ukraine and Trump's claims
Associated Press STEPHEN BRAUN and LYNN BERRY,Associated Press 1 hour 9 minutes ago


The Obama White House said at the time that there was no conflict because the younger Biden was a private citizen. And there's been no evidence of wrongdoing by either Biden.

Yet the matter is back in the spotlight following revelations that President Donald Trump prodded Ukraine's president to help him investigate any corruption related to Joe Biden, now one of the top Democrats seeking to defeat Trump in 2020. Trump's private lawyer Rudy Giuliani has also publicly urged Ukrainian officials to investigate the Bidens.

Hunter Biden was named a paid board member of Burisma Holdings in April 2014. The company's founder was a political ally of Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's Russia-friendly president, who was driven out in February 2014 by mass protests.

Yanukovych's ouster prompted the Obama administration to move quickly to deepen ties with Ukraine's new government. Joe Biden played a leading role, traveling to Ukraine and speaking frequently with its new Western-friendly president.

The younger Biden's business role raised concerns among anticorruption advocates that Burisma was seeking to gain influence with the Obama administration. At the time, the company ran a natural gas extraction operation in Crimea, a Ukrainian peninsula annexed by Russia after Yanukovych was pushed from power.

Hunter Biden has denied using his influence with his father to aid Burisma. He remained on the board through early 2019, often appearing at energy-related conferences abroad representing Burisma's interests.

On Saturday, the former vice president said he never speaks to his son about his overseas business dealings.

The matter, however, has continued to be questioned by Trump and his allies. They've pointed in particular to Biden's move in March 2016 to pressure the Ukrainian government to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who had previously led an investigation into Burisma's owner.

Biden was representing the official position of the U.S. government, a position that was also supported by other Western governments and many in Ukraine, who accused Shokin of being soft on corruption.

Corruption has continued to fester in Ukraine. In May, the country's new president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, came into office with no political experience but with bold promises to put an end to the corrupt practices.

Around this time, Giuliani began reaching out to Zelenskiy and his aides to press for a government investigation into Burisma and Hunter Biden's role with the company.

In a Fox News interview on May 19, Trump claimed the former Ukrainian prosecutor "was after" Joe Biden's son and that was why the former vice president demanded he be fired. There is no evidence of this.

Ukraine's current prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, was quoted by Bloomberg News in May as saying he had no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden or his son. Bloomberg also reported that the investigation into Burisma was dormant at the time Biden pressed for Shokhin's ouster.

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Yeah, I never cease to be amazed by the stupidity of progs. Trying to take down Trump by means of highlighting their front runner's corruption? Do these guys think at all? I do wonder if it wasn't Trump who was the whistle blower.

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The success of his campaign has nothing to do with the illegality of a POTUS using his office to pressure a foreign government to interfere with a US election.

It's absolutely an abuse of power. It's the act of a dictator.
Not that you guys care of course. But the rest of the world sees it for what it is.


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

If what the press is reporting is accurate, which it probably isn't, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him asking Ukraine to investigate the possible corrupt practices of an American citizen. The executive branch does this every day of the week. This is a strange thing. Progs and socialists, I thought, are militant in rooting out political corruption. But not in this case, huh? If Schiff or some other dem nut job were to ask a foreign gov't to investigate Trump, would that be an act of a dictator or an abuse of power in your way of looking at things? Let me answer for you: of course not.

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Rudy should probably just focus on his new job as Colonel Sanders...

The president withholding defense aid to our ally to extort an "investigation" of his political opponent really isn't as big of a deal as firing the FBI Director to obstruct an investigation with national security implications, and then firing the AG with the same intention, failing to comply with FARA and disclose money owed to foreign individuals, lying to the USA repeatedly about secret meetings, and pushing conspiracy theories while his own children use security clearances to advance the family empire, dealing with all of the worst possible characters across the globe.

So, I'm with Tpap on this one. It's not surprising at all.

OBVIOUSLY Trump has evidence.

Morons!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Obviously?

So far, every news station says there is no evidence against Biden or his son.

There is evidence against, "THE CHOSEN ONE."

The dominos continue to fall. Will the repubs do anything?

They haven't so far...

Edited: 09/23/2019 at 09:25 AM by sandi

In the video above, dumbass Biden openly brags about threatening Ukraine with withholding a billion taxpayer dollars if they didn't fire the prosecutor investigating his son. Biden could have easily been impeached for this.

If Trump simply asked Ukraine to investigate Biden, then good for him. Hopefully, Trump would verify anything he found and wouldn't feed bullshit to the FISA courts so he could spy on anyone. If Ukraine wants to share real information about Biden, then by all means, share away. If Trump threatened Ukraine in any way, as Grandpa dipshit did in the video above, then Trump has a problem. Basically, if Trump included funds in his conversation then he probably has the problem that the racist old dipshit Biden should have had.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Man, that would be bad if it were true. But it isn't. The prosecutor was investigating an oil company, and the investigation had nothing to do with Biden. Once again trump is caught abusing the office.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

You conveniently left off the part about Hunter Biden being on the board of this Ukranian oil company, and the fact that this same oil company was paying Hunter Biden around $50,000 per month.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

All perfectly legal. There is no evidence of wrongdoing by Biden or his son. This is a partisan effort by trump to enlist the help of a foreign government to weaken his political rival in exchange for presidential favors.

Where is the evidence of ANY wrongdoing, other than trump's abuse of power?


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

All perfectly legal? Threatening to withhold a billion dollars in funding unless a government fires a prosecutor looking into a company that your son sits on the board of is perfectly legal?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

That's not what happened.

"Biden's action was coordinated with other major players in the region and celebrated at the time because Shokin was widely seen as a failure.

Bloomberg reported that "the U.S. plan to push for Shokin's dismissal didn't initially come from Biden, but rather filtered up from officials at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, according to a person with direct knowledge of the situation." In the same month Biden traveled to Ukraine, Bloomberg also reported, "hundreds of Ukrainians demonstrated outside President Petro Poroshenko's office demanding Shokin's resignation, and he was dismissed."

"This decision creates an opportunity to make a fresh start in the prosecutor general's office. I hope that the new prosecutor general will ensure that [his office] becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust," Jan Tombinski, the European Union's envoy to Ukraine, said in a statement when the firing was announced. The statement decried the "lack of tangible results of investigations into serious cases."

Note that the money in question was $1 billion in loan guarantees - not "billions" of dollars in aid, as Trump claimed."

Moreover, Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden.

We fact-checked these allegations in May and found they did not add up. In fact, Biden's case has gotten stronger with time.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

So, are you denying the fact that Shokin was preparing a corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, which Hunter Biden sat on the board of and paid Hunter Biden around $50,000 per month?

Biden said in his own words that he ordered $1B in loan guarantees to Ukraine be put on hold until Shokin was fired at a time when Shokin was preparing a corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, which Hunter Biden sat on the board of. Seems pretty obvious what happened.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

The facts won't get you anywhere with these people. They are impervious to facts, truth, logic, knowledge or understanding. Best to save your breath.

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"..the Ukrainian president "directly" expressed concerns at their meeting that "the aid that was being cut off to Ukraine by the president was a consequence" of his unwillingness to launch an investigation into the Bidens."

Confirming the WaPo scoop (above), NYT reports - Trump told Mulvaney to freeze nearly $400 mill in aid to Ukraine days before the July 25 call

"You want the money ... you investigate Biden."

US Constitution:

Article II - The Executive Branch. Section IV - Disqualification. The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the US, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, BRIBERY, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The irony. LOL.





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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

What you proclaim is obvious and the obvious things you overlook is too much to keep up with.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I love Rudy as Colonel Sanders! The good Rudy though, not the piece of $hit lying sack that these GOP kooks have no problem admiring.



Edited: 09/23/2019 at 09:13 AM by Greensleeves

The spin is in.

Evidence of Biden's wrongdoing? None. Just a lot of suspicious circumstances. That is why you do an investigation, isn't it? Now, where is the evidence of Trump's abuse of power? A president can't ask a foreign country to investigate a suspected crime? That's news to me.

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Maybe Biden should get Pootie on the phone and offer him some sweet deal if he sells out trump. Since all is fair now.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Like Ted Kennedy did with the Soviets? Yeah, apparently has been fair for quite awhile.

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Fake story from Faux News.

http://www.politifact.com/pund...dy-kgb-meeting-never-/

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

What I said, however, was accurate. The politifact article confirms that Kennedy contacted the Soviets for help in beating Reagan.

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It most certainly does not confirm that. Read the damn thing.




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Edited: 09/23/2019 at 12:36 PM by RustyTruck

I did. The statement examined had Kennedy meeting with the KGB. That was deemed false. I said nothing about the KGB.

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tspank working OT to justify his crush going to a foreign power and working with them against one of us. check tspank's yard for an American flag. Guessing there isn't one. He probably kneels when the national anthem plays

Be careful what you condemn, Blindsniper. That's exactly what Trump did.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Snipes loves the out of context and falsely introduced clips. Has no clue what he is talking about and to top it off it still has nothing to do with getting info on a opponent to influence a US election. Snipes, you're out of your league bud. You're getting into kkkopyandpaste it territory.

Have you heard the tapes because I haven't? You saying that Trump also dangled $1B in loan guarantees over Ukraine's head in exchange for something?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

You got nothing on Biden or Kennedy. Trump has already confessed. None of it matters because the whole government is bullshit. Corruption rules this so called country.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

You weren't aware that TFish is listed under "irony" in the dictionary?

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