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Not me. Federal gov't has no business regulating mud puddles. Typical of idiotic Obama policies. Glad that dumbass is gone.

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Literally regulating mud puddles. Everyone except for progs realizes how stupid that is. One of the reasons Trump whipped the butt of Clinton. I don't suppose you guys were aware that that the Supreme Court has already rejected the definition that Trump is doing away with.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Literally regulating mud puddles. Everyone except for progs realizes how stupid that is. One of the reasons Trump whipped the butt of Clinton.

I don't suppose you guys were aware that that the Supreme Court has already rejected the definition that Trump is doing away with.




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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Not me. Federal gov't has no business regulating mud puddles. Typical of idiotic Obama policies. Glad that dumbass is gone.

Those weren't mud puddles until you idiots came along.

We now have cancer causing forever chemicals in our US water supply - thanks dotard!


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Clean water is so idiotic. Only dumb asses protect natural resources.

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I'm too old to suffer the consequences of big business polluting rivers and waterways the federal government has no business in protecting. I will have collected those dividends and donated those parties that pushed that fly now pay later agenda. Flying now. Too dead to pay later. Great plan.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

I'm too old to suffer the consequences of big business polluting rivers and waterways the federal government has no business in protecting. I will have collected those dividends and donated those parties that pushed that fly now pay later agenda. Flying now. Too dead to pay later. Great plan.


I hear ya brethren. I'm on my way out,too. I never expected to get this old. I was in Germany in '62 (I was 6) when WWIII almost started. On day we were told to pack some schitt and head to the parade field. There were a bunch of helicopters wound up and ready to go and families huddled together. Then someone blinked. After that I was aware of how fast crap could just end. The surfer lifestyle suited my life long attitude. I don't think a "normal" thinking person would willingly go out in monster seas on a plank of foam.
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Well golly gee: folks get old.....so what. You're either older, or dead.
I plan on sticking around awhile.
Meanwhile, back to the subject of the post: the wholesale destructive attempts by the chumpfscum and the pig sugar rick lickers against our priceless florida and american natural resources.
However, if stopping these vermin doing this isn't merely a moral or ethical issue.
It is a yuge american business issue y'all.
How big is the boating and fishing industry in florida and america?
Hunting? No water, no wildlife.
How about tourism? How much revenue did florida lose to pill mill ricks blue green algae blooms?
Commercial fishing and crabbing?
Ecotourism, wildlife tour guides....
Real estate: and here is a lovely waterfront offering. Featuring a dock and millions of rotting fish......
Wise. the fuck. up folks


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issuing new rules that remove federal protections for half the nation's wetlands and hundreds of thousands of small waterways.

Mud puddles? Even tfish can't be this fucking stupid.


The real damage done.

http://www.nytimes.com/interac...ronment-rollbacks.html

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I hear ya brethren. I'm on my way out,too. I never expected to get this old.
I'm too old to suffer the consequences of big business polluting rivers and waterways the federal government has no business in protecting. I will have collected those dividends and donated those parties that pushed that fly now pay later agenda.

You have become: comfortably numb...
I thought this was a forum for watermen, and women. You know: folks with a spine, some guts; some form of gumption.
guess not....

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I work in the water business and see the shit firsthand; from semi treated human waste that flows into the Kissimmee River, to the wanton destruction of cypress stands throughout Central Florida.

If we keep cramming people in and plowing under the recharge areas, we are fucked when it comes to affordable water. As a fourth generation Floridian, you can bet your fucking ass I'm pissed. Why do you think I fight so hard against these cock suckers? It sure as shit isn't to help my blood pressure.
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Originally posted by: nukeh2o

I hear ya brethren. I'm on my way out,too. I never expected to get this old.

I'm too old to suffer the consequences of big business polluting rivers and waterways the federal government has no business in protecting. I will have collected those dividends and donated those parties that pushed that fly now pay later agenda.



You have become: comfortably numb...

weak. pathetic.....

I thought this was a forum for watermen, and women. You know: folks with a spine, some guts; some form of gumption.

guess not....


You're a babbling fool that has mental health issues. Under Bernie, you could be helped without losing that $1.50 you have in the bank.
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This is where tpap's cynicism finds its refuge. He thinks the pollution that turns pristine wilderness and wetlands into mud puddles won't hurt him and he will age out and die before it does. Of course he's wrong, but this is common. This is the birth tax the GOP saddles the next generation with, this and the hope that their money will but their kids the last remaining areas where their policies weren't effective or the property was private.

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You mean the outrage of the dumbocratic controlled city of Ft. Lauderdale dumping 211 Million gallons of raw sewage in the waterway?

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Dumping? No. That's broken water mains not maintained or replaced because the city didn't do the special assessments or raise the taxes to cover the aging pipes. They got what they didn't pay for but that cannot be compared to this new embrace of polluters as wealth creators and protections for the environment as anti business.

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Yep, mud puddles. You don't even know how stupid your fellow progs are, do you? Well, they are stupid enough to try to regulate mud puddles. Too bad you guys can't learn, else you might learn something.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Yep, mud puddles. You don't even know how stupid your fellow progs are, do you? Well, they are stupid enough to try to regulate mud puddles. Too bad you guys can't learn, else you might learn something.

Those weren't mud puddles until you idiots came along.

We now have cancer causing forever chemicals in our US water supply - thanks dotard!


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See, our resident progs didn't even know that Obama's EPA attempted to regulate mud puddles. Didn't know that the Supreme Court threw that out as regulatory over reach. See, progs are an ignorant bunch as well as stupid. You can't listen to them or vote for them. All they can do well is rant and bitch about things that aren't true.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

See, our resident progs didn't even know that Obama's EPA attempted to regulate mud puddles. Didn't know that the Supreme Court threw that out as regulatory over reach. See, progs are an ignorant bunch as well as stupid. You can't listen to them or vote for them. All they can do well is rant and bitch about things that aren't true.

Ok Boomer...


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Now that I've established that this dumb Obama reg regulated mud puddles and that the Supreme Court shot down the blatant over reach, I will address the prog freak out about everyone dying. Nope. Have the same environmental laws on the books that we've had for the last 40 odd years. Still in place. See, people, you just can't trust progs on anything. If they aren't lying, they're freaking out about some nothing. And if not that, they are doing something world class stupid. Most of the time, they're doing all three simultaneously. Don't vote for them.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Now that I've established that this dumb Obama reg regulated mud puddles and that the Supreme Court shot down the blatant over reach, I will address the prog freak out about everyone dying. Nope. Have the same environmental laws on the books that we've had for the last 40 odd years. Still in place. See, people, you just can't trust progs on anything. If they aren't lying, they're freaking out about some nothing. And if not that, they are doing something world class stupid. Most of the time, they're doing all three simultaneously. Don't vote for them.

Ok Boomer...


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Btw, Trump also did away with another idiotic Obama rule that allowed the feds to withhold funds if they deemed your community discriminatory (i.e. , not enough minorities living there). So, for now, you don't have to worry about slums being built next door to your home. I was starting to forget how bad Obama was.

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tspank either oblivious to or afraid of the greater meaning of the Obama presidency.

It's coming geezers! You better cling to twitler no matter how ignorant and repulsive he is.

When the dems get back in we will force clean air and potable water on y'all!

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Greater meaning of the Obama presidency? Utter incompetence. And that progs love incompetence and hate competence. Anyway, I don't need to worry about Obama anymore. Trump has undone everything that joker did. Well, I do have one worry - that the lazy bastard won't campaign for the eventual Dem nominee. Hasn't everyone that the dumbass campaigned for lost? Don't think Trump will need that help, but it can't hurt.

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tspank denigrates a good well educated and fair man and digs an ignorant wife cheating liar.

What Obama meant was that the hold that white elites had on our society is crumbling. How did the party of geezers react? With their backs up against the wall they embrace an obese New York clown and welcome Russian assistance.

If the Democrats resurrect the excitement that happened during the midterms it's all over for the social security crew.



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These people are up in arms about algae blooms in the receiving waters. But they think regulating the source waters is stupid. That is a special kind of delusional.

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Meanwhile: back to the subject of the post.
The federal government, under this obese orange slimeball, is trying to erase any and all measures to ensure the safety of our drinking water. And efforts to guard our priceless natural resources and wildlife.
While rick "doing a fine job" scott allowed increased amounts of benzene in our drinking water. And allowed pig sugar and corporate polluters to wreak havoc on our waterways and marine resources. Affecting florida's largest industries, and all of us who love our aquatic blessings.
But: here in brevard, we passed a referendum for a small tax increase to do something about it. Passed by over 70% of those who voted on it. The volunteer commission consisting of smart folks from all walks of life are making a concerted effort to use that money to change things.
And it is showing results.

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T-fish's reaction to a slight overreach is to do away with all regulation. Typical, and that's how we always end up in the shit after a Republican administration.

Half, yes, half of all wetlands are now in danger. That destruction will include everything from drinking water to the fisheries. This terrible decision is a legitimate and devastating change.

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Originally posted by: Cole T-fish's reaction to a slight overreach is to do away with all regulation. Typical, and that's how we always end up in the shit after a Republican administration. Half, yes, half of all wetlands are now in danger. That destruction will include everything from drinking water to the fisheries. This terrible decision is a legitimate and devastating change.
No one is proposing to do away with all regulations. Just stupid ones. This won't destroy anything. We've had Republican presidents, all of who were going to destroy the environment according to you chicken littles, for 12 of the last 20 years. Why aren't we all dead? Moreover, we've had Republican governors here for the last 20 years. Environment is better than ever, even though we've had millions of additional people come here from hell hole prog states. If you want to worry about something, worry about Sanders being elected. Commie countries do destroy the environment.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: Cole

T-fish's reaction to a slight overreach is to do away with all regulation. Typical, and that's how we always end up in the shit after a Republican administration.



Half, yes, half of all wetlands are now in danger. That destruction will include everything from drinking water to the fisheries. This terrible decision is a legitimate and devastating change.


No one is proposing to do away with all regulations. Just stupid ones. This won't destroy anything. We've had Republican presidents, all of who were going to destroy the environment according to you chicken littles, for 12 of the last 20 years. Why aren't we all dead? Moreover, we've had Republican governors here for the last 20 years. Environment is better than ever, even though we've had millions of additional people come here from hell hole prog states. If you want to worry about something, worry about Sanders being elected. Commie countries do destroy the environment.

The environment is not better than ever...


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In most places it is. Sure, there are some problems in prog-run shit hole states like California. But overall, better than ever.

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From two weeks ago in CA. Please pray for them.





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Yuck. Look at that nasty haze. And if had recently rained, I wouldn't get near that water, not with all that bum feces that got washed into the ocean. Who knows what diseases you'd get.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

In most places it is. Sure, there are some problems in prog-run shit hole states like California. But overall, better than ever.

No it is not, or we would not be spending billions on lagoon clean up. It's worse thanks to scorched earth policy of anything-for-a-buck politicians, mainly cons.

You must live in a cave...


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Originally posted by: wtf
Originally posted by: tpapablo In most places it is. Sure, there are some problems in prog-run shit hole states like California. But overall, better than ever.
No it is not, or we would not be spending billions on lagoon clean up. It's worse thanks to scorched earth policy of anything-for-a-buck politicians, mainly cons. You must live in a cave...
If someone is spending billions on lagoon clean up, that tells me it's getting better. So, under Trump, things are getting better. Now, with all the people moving here, we will have to be vigilant. More people = more pollution, by definition. I addressed that in my post in which I implored everyone to urge people living in prog states to vote for Republicans, so those citizens would stop coming here. That's another argument against unfettered immigration, btw. We get 20 million more people in the country we get that much more sewage, air pollution, trash, etc.

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The environment is better due to strict legislation from the Obama administration. That has ended. Half of all wetlands are to lose protection, half. Even a Trump bootlick can see that half is quite a bit more than a few.

Drinking water, increased carcinogens, fish populations...all is included. This is what you get when you vote in an administration that has no use for science.
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Originally posted by: Cole

The environment is better due to strict legislation from the Obama administration. That has ended. Half of all wetlands are to lose protection, half. Even a Trump bootlick can see that half is quite a bit more than a few.



Drinking water, increased carcinogens, fish populations...all is included. This is what you get when you vote in an administration that has no use for science.

We have FOREVER chemicals in our drinking water now - ones that cause cancer. And yet we have dotards like tpap going all Leslie Neilsen on us - 'Nothing to see here' - laughable...

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LOL TFap in full effect:



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Originally posted by: fishkller

LOL TFap in full effect:




Ha ha!


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"If someone is spending billions on lagoon clean up"
Stuuupid pigshit dumbfuck: the millions, voted on by the electorate of our wonderful water environment loving brevard electorate is who is spending it porkchop. Through a volunteer board of commissioners representing many different sectors of the populace. Voted on by over 70% of us. Please feel free to attend the next open to the public meeting with any questions or concerns.
Of course: swamp hog rancher voted against it......
dont let the wall at the jojahstan border hit you in the ass goober.
go home.

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See? Trying to deceive people doesn't get you anywhere. Trump undid regulation of mud puddles and that action doesn't hurt a thing. This why no one believes progs.

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Mud puddle was never mentioned in any of the legislation. That's just another Republican lie.
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

See? Trying to deceive people doesn't get you anywhere. Trump undid regulation of mud puddles and that action doesn't hurt a thing. This why no one believes progs.

Yes it does. Lies are how trump gained the presidency. You dotards are not very bright - it shows...


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The regs dealt with "ephemeral streams," which are defined as waters that flow only after precipitation. That would be mud puddles in common language. But, folks, this is what progs want. Under their twisted and insane world view, they would regulate your backyard and fine the hell out of you if you somehow diverted excess rain water. Don't vote for these anti-liberty Nazis.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

The regs dealt with "ephemeral streams," which are defined as waters that flow only after precipitation. That would be mud puddles in common language.

But, folks, this is what progs want. Under their twisted and insane world view, they would regulate your backyard and fine the hell out of you if you somehow diverted excess rain water. Don't vote for these anti-liberty Nazis.

Let me translate dotard - I like to shit in my own water and drink it. There, made it more clear for those in the back...


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Originally posted by: tpapablo

The regs dealt with "ephemeral streams," which are defined as waters that flow only after precipitation. That would be mud puddles in common language.

But, folks, this is what progs want. Under their twisted and insane world view, they would regulate your backyard and fine the hell out of you if you somehow diverted excess rain water. Don't vote for these anti-liberty Nazis.


Stream: Moving water.

Puddle: Still water.

What do you get when you vote Republican? Dummies.

 02/20/2020 04:14 PM
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Why streams matter.

http://www.epa.gov/sites/produ..._final_508-kepner.pdf

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Originally posted by: tpapablo The regs dealt with "ephemeral streams," which are defined as waters that flow only after precipitation. That would be mud puddles in common language. But, folks, this is what progs want. Under their twisted and insane world view, they would regulate your backyard and fine the hell out of you if you somehow diverted excess rain water. Don't vote for these anti-liberty Nazis.
Better to spend a million dollars putting a baffle box at the end of the street that is going to cost $$$$$$ annually to maintain rather than make sure the run-off is clean to begin with. Just dump your shit in the street and let it flow to the lagoon, no problem. If people want a clean lagoon then they can spend big money to try to capture and clean that runoff after the fact.

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This isn't about puddles in back yards and the lobbies for the mega corps know it. This is about the developer or rancher or farmer that wants free reign to drain huge land areas without any concern for downstream effects. They want to do things like they did in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s when they managed to push the Chesapeake Bay to collapse just from turbidity and nutrients when the population in the watershed was much smaller than today.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: wtf

Originally posted by: tpapablo



In most places it is. Sure, there are some problems in prog-run shit hole states like California. But overall, better than ever.


No it is not, or we would not be spending billions on lagoon clean up. It's worse thanks to scorched earth policy of anything-for-a-buck politicians, mainly cons.



You must live in a cave...


If someone is spending billions on lagoon clean up, that tells me it's getting better.
So, under Trump, things are getting better. Now, with all the people moving here, we will have to be vigilant. More people = more pollution, by definition. I addressed that in my post in which I implored everyone to urge people living in prog states to vote for Republicans, so those citizens would stop coming here. That's another argument against unfettered immigration, btw. We get 20 million more people in the country we get that much more sewage, air pollution, trash, etc.

The dotard is strong in this post...


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Rick Scott was kind enough to reduce pollution by removing a list of pollutants from the criteria. That's the GOP way, pollute your way to big money, avoid the real cost of waste disposal and clean up by lobbying and bankruptcy and complain all along about how the government ties your hands. The birth tax is real and it will be paid once these myopic millionaires are dead and dying as they try to buy redemption is high profile donations to opera houses, dog pounds and charities that promise to put their names in places where the profile and volume of the last effort will render their entire lives as self centered oligarchs as historical blip to a time when everyone did that.

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"Just stupid ones." Says the person that doesn't believe the science on man caused climate change.





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tspank hasn't seen fresh air or water in a while. It can be scary


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"That policy now says that more Floridians are expendable to cancer and other serious health diseases in order for industries to be more profitable," said Linda Young, executive director of the Florida Clean Water Network, which tried and failed to get the commission to reject the DEP's proposed rule.

The rule updates the state's water quality standards for the first time since 1992 by allowing for 23 toxics, including 18 carcinogens, to be discharged from industrial polluters at higher levels. The chemicals are among those released by oil and gas drilling companies, dry cleaners, pulp and paper producers, electricity plants, wastewater treatment plants and agriculture.

Under the new rules, at least 10 chemicals will now be allowed to be discharged into drinking water sources in amounts that exceed current drinking water standards.

"That means, if the new criteria goes into effect, then those waters could have higher levels of those chemicals than it is legal to send to homes for drinking," Young said. "So the utilities would have to get those chemicals out before putting it in our tap water.''


In other words, you dotards let these industries dump a ton of toxic shit in our water and then force everyday taxpayers to pay to clean up THEIR MESS. We are literally allowing industry to shit in our water and then WE pay to clean it up - talk about taking it up the cornhole. you doatrds have a fucked up way of thinking...

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Good. Then you progs will die. I won't, however, and I'll have a more pleasant life since I won't be surrounded by as many fools. Win-win.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Good. Then you progs will die. I won't, however, and I'll have a more pleasant life since I won't be surrounded by as many fools. Win-win.

You completely missed the point and obviously did not read the post. Not surprising though since most dotards struggle with reading.


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tspank lives in Mims? The "fools" he is surrounded by are his own

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves tspank lives in Mims? The "fools" he is surrounded by are his own
No, I don't live in Mims. When I'm there, I am surrounded by cattle, horses, pigs, chickens, foxes, bobcats, hawks, eagles, owls and many other creatures. Even the worms up there a smarter than progs.

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Tfap is surrounded by fools anytime he gets near a mirror.


Nothing to see here! LOL

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Remember, progs want to regulate mud puddles. Don't vote for them.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Remember, progs want to regulate mud puddles. Don't vote for them.


Once again - let me translate dotard - I like to shit in my own water and drink it. There, made it more clear for those in the back...

Again, Industry is polluting our waters, and then YOU pay to clean it up. Not only that, you continue to support such policies. Doesn't get much more dotard than that...

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This is what the Obama EPA was trying to counter.

What is the Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone?

The Gulf of Mexico dead zone is an area of hypoxic (link to USGS definition) (less than 2 ppm dissolved oxygen) waters at the mouth of the Mississippi River. Its area varies in size, but can cover up to 6,000-7,000 square miles. The zone occurs between the inner and mid-continental shelf in the northern Gulf of Mexico, beginning at the Mississippi River delta and extending westward to the upper Texas coast.

http://serc.carleton.edu/micro...s/deadzone/index.html

What happens upstream, happens downstream too..
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Originally posted by: Cole

This is what the Obama EPA was trying to counter.



What is the Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone?



The Gulf of Mexico dead zone is an area of hypoxic (link to USGS definition) (less than 2 ppm dissolved oxygen) waters at the mouth of the Mississippi River. Its area varies in size, but can cover up to 6,000-7,000 square miles. The zone occurs between the inner and mid-continental shelf in the northern Gulf of Mexico, beginning at the Mississippi River delta and extending westward to the upper Texas coast.

">http://serc.carleton.edu/micro.../index.html



What happens upstream, happens downstream too..


Again, the biggest kick in the nuts is the polluters don't have to pay to clean it up. WE do...that's fucked.

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The mud puddle regulators want to seize control of your property. Don't let them. Believe me, they won't stop at that.

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Remember, nothing to see here!

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"The mud puddle regulators want to seize control of your property."

tspank somehow confused with the jack booted thugs taking property from Americans for twitler's idiotic "wall"?

see tspank whines about regulations designed to protect Americans health while looking the other way on regulations that mess with our freedom.

now that's ignorant

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Another prog who wants to regulate the mud puddles in your yard. Think of progs as HOA board members from hell. Do you want someone with the obvious mental decencies of Clayton telling you how you must do your yard?

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tspank's twitler induced lobotomy in effect! what used to be witty now reduced to mindless spineless blabber.

tspank and his bros (gross) can go ahead and drink hogwash (they do everyday with their ingestion of breitbart). Their ignorant attempts to limit the rights of the rest of us, to include children, to drink potable water and enjoy clean waterways show how feeble and disgusting they have become.

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This what progs do when you catch them red-handed - call you names (yep, grade school mentality). So anytime you see them calling the messenger names instead of providing the facts, you know they are lying.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

This what progs do when you catch them red-handed - call you names (yep, grade school mentality). So anytime you see them calling the messenger names instead of providing the facts, you know they are lying.

You must live in a cave - this is the dotard way...


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It gives me joy to see progs freak out when you publicize their plans to further destroy our country. But we all must remain vigilant. They have no morals whatsoever.

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Originally posted by: Greensleeves tspank's twitler induced lobotomy in effect!
Those people have been making stupid "mud puddle" type misdirection arguments since The Heartland Institute bought Limbaugh in the 80s in their effort to battle regs on sulfur emissions, mining reclamation, etc... They just didn't have the reach with AM radio that they have had with a national TV network and now social media.

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Pussy grabbing sexual predator thief is president, and you want to talk about morals. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Man, you dotards keep me laughing every day. It's the only good that has happened in the last three years of this disaster of an admin

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You have to excuse T-fish, environmental science is a touch above his capacity.

None of this has anything to do with puddles, yet that's all he can talk about. I'd laugh, but it's impolite to make fun of the mentally challenged.
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