Please excuse me if I trigger the Snowflakes here, , , , ,

I had not paid much attention to the whole lot of BS surrounding the incident after a quick review.

But now, The Oprah is involved, , , ,!

How can these idiots say that the officers be arrested and charged. Charged for what?

There was a valid warrant. The officers were shot at and they returned fire. Sad outcome but, , , , ,!



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Your news feeds must be hysterical. Remember that comment you made about other people and their social media? lol

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Edited: 08/10/2020 at 05:28 AM by Cole

Ummmm, , , , Forbes and MSN?

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Sure. lol



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Howard

Manslaughter at minimum.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Damn dingbatch bringing the being blind to racism early.

Is he trying to say that when BLM came to the fore recently he knew nothing of the Breonna Taylor incident? He thinks it was all about Mr. Floyd? Jeez that is shallow and shows ding is barely prepared to discuss any subject really.

The officers shot into the house 22 times and killed an unarmed woman standing in her own hallway.

Edited: 08/10/2020 at 05:45 AM by Greensleeves

He is reading the RT version of the story.

Russia Today. Think about it.

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Well no, , , , ,

Plainly, and simply, , , , , yes, she is an innocent victim. But, there was a warrant and her boy friend fired at the police. Sad situation but, , ,.

Ya, ya, ya, , , , lots of "he said, she said" disconnects to sort out but, , , , no "manslaughter" or "murder" involved, other than her boyfriend perhaps being charged with her death.

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Ding, what will you do if someone kicks your door in at midnight?

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FACT CHECK: Debunking 7 widely shared rumors in the Breonna Taylor police shooting
Tessa Duvall, Louisville Courier Journal 7/10/2020

Claim: Police were at the wrong apartment

Our rating: False
The search warrant for Taylor and her home explicitly identified her and her address. The Louisville police were not there by mistake. They believed that Taylor had ties to Glover, one of the main suspects in the investigation.

Claim: Police located their main suspect before going to Taylor's home

Our rating: Likely true
Official documents say police executed the search warrants at Elliott Avenue and at Taylor's apartment at the same time, and Glover wasn't officially arrested until two hours later.
Glover may not have been in custody before officers forced their way into Taylor's home, but based on statements by Mattingly, police likely knew where he was at that time, as attorneys for Taylor's family assert.

Claim: Taylor was shot while she was asleep in bed

Our rating: False
Taylor and Kenneth Walker were in bed when they heard the banging on the apartment door at approximately 12:40 a.m., according to statements Walker made to police. But they got out of bed before police entered, and Taylor died on her hallway floor.

Claim: Taylor was living with a drug dealer

Our rating: False
Neither Taylor nor Kenneth Walker has any drug offenses on their records. Additionally, Taylor and Glover maintained only a "passive" relationship, according to Aguiar.

Claim: Body-camera footage exists in Taylor's shooting death

Our rating: Inconclusive
Conrad said that Mattingly, Hankison and Cosgrove were not wearing body cameras when they shot Taylor. However, other officers at the scene following the shooting may have had operating body cameras. If so, they may have captured information that could be relevant to the case.

Claim: The officer who was shot was hit by friendly fire

Our rating: False
In police interviews and through his attorney, Kenneth Walker did not dispute firing one round inside the apartment at what he said he thought were intruders. No evidence has been presented indicating that Mattingly was shot by anyone other than Walker, and attorneys for Walker and Taylor's family haven't disputed that it was Walker who shot Mattingly.

Claim: Taylor works as an EMT

Our rating: Partially true
Taylor joined the city as an EMT recruit in January 2016, became a full EMT by June and left the Metro Government in November 2016.
Local attorneys for Taylor's family have clarified that she was working as an ER technician at two area hospitals at the time of her March 13 death, with aspirations of becoming a nurse.


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Ding, what will you do if someone kicks your door in at midnight?

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Yep, the cops were justified. null I get out of bed to see what the ruckus is all about. I definitely don't go in with guns blazing.

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what tpap said, , , ,

I do not keep "locked and loaded".

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Edited: 08/10/2020 at 06:53 AM by dingpatch

If someone kicks your door in at night, is an armed response on your part justified?



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Depends on who it is.

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Sure. lol

Liar



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Aw the dumb a$$ comments of the GOP dopes. She deserved to die is that where you racists are coming from? She was shot five times and had no weapon

"ruckus" = front door kicked in?

You don't think it occurred to her boyfriend it was a home invasion?

And the cops, no body cams of course. No knock warrants executed by an all white group of undercovers.

Y'all ever think before you show your stupid?

Edited: 08/10/2020 at 07:04 AM by Greensleeves

"No knock" warrant = Armed home invasion

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

If it is the p;olice doing the door busting, I am not going to resist in any way because things wouldn't go well for me. Best people understand that. Supposedly, all black children are given the "talk." If that is the case, they should know what to do.

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Wrong again,always wait for the facts before you jump rusty

I stand by my statement. Someone crashes your front door you're not shooting?

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cheetah-krickets?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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From wiki:

No-knock warrants may be issued in every state except Oregon (where state law bans no-knock warrants) and Florida (in which a 1994 state supreme court decision prohibited no-knock warrants).[2] 13 states have laws explicitly authorizing no-knock warrants and in twenty additional states no-knock warrants are routinely granted.[2]

In the wake of the Breonna Taylor shooting (March 2020) and the later (May - June 2020) George Floyd protests, the Louisville Metro Council voted on June 11, 2020 to ban no-knock warrants in Louisville, Kentucky. All 26 council members co-sponsored the ordinance, which they called "Breonna's Law".[5]

I wonder when the last time an unarmed white person was killed by police during a no knock warrant home invasion? I'm sure it happens. Right?

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March 12, 2020 was the last I could find. Don't hear much about that one, do you? Wonder why not.

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Thanks, that sounds like another bad police situation. I'd like to find out more about. I can't believe no knock warrants are legal. What is your take?

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

Its legal. Personally, I don't like them. Now, I see the other side of the argument. At very least, they need to tightened the standards so that you could get one of these warrants only in the most extreme circumstances.

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most white people obey the law, why wouldnt they if they havent done anything wrong as you imply

I bet you've broken the law lot more than once in your life.

But, and, unless the Grand Jury's transcripts are released, the allotted "15 minutes" have expired.

Breonna's life was important and it is sad to loose her but, , , , we trust that the Grand Jury performed their job.

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The police's story on the Breonna Taylor shooting begin to unravel:
Witness Who Heard Cops Announce Themselves in Breonna Taylor Raid Changed His Story


Potential violations of LPD policies designed to maintain integrity of investigations:
Breonna Taylor evidence leaks appear to show charged Louisville officer in her unit after shooting


ALL the police that night had .40 cal guns... oops, not so fast my friend:
Ballistics Report Seems to Contradict Kentucky AG's Claim That Breonna Taylor's Boyfriend Shot, Injured LMPD Officer



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This one is a few years old, but illustrates the point.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/...-dangerous-work-drugs


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tspank so incredibly stupid he can't post a link. tspank you see why you are generally regarded as a dumba$$ right?

Rusty's Vox article is right on.

No-knocks justify SWAT teams which are in large part used in No-knocks to justify their existence. The PD's like their tactical tim image and status, though. So they find reasons to keep the SWAT teams. Not saying they don't have a place, but not every town needs a full para-military SWAT team.

No-knocks should be used in the extreme minority of the cases and not granted with the ease they are currently given.

If the door or window are suddenly broken in and intruders enter the home unannounced I would have a hard time blaming someone for shooting said intruders. Anybody can buy tactical gear and look all mall-ninja so you can't go by what the intruders look like.





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OK fools, , , , just what about any of this is "racist"?

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The fact that they came into being due to the "war on drugs" is absurd. Unless you're a full on cartel, there's no reason to do no-knock warrants for drug crimes.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

There is a big credibility issue with whether these cops identified themselves as police. That's a huge difference In what happened next.

If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, your right to defend your home is paramount.

In a bad neighborhood, in a small apartment, they had every right to shoot an unannounced intruder.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

And the cops had every right to shoot back. RIght result was reached. Can't speak to the reckless endangerment charge, however.

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Edited: 09/24/2020 at 10:40 AM by tpapablo

Yeah, from your track record it is best you do not comment about legal matters. You've been wrong every time. En banc? FL Gambling? Man pushed to the ground? Charlottesville? Should I continue?

Great points you made here. Steven A. Smith made a similar comparison on ESPN this morning.

(I paraphrase) He said, Kentucky has some laws in conflict with each other:

1. The person's right to carry a weapon; concealed or otherwise.

2. The right to protect your home, with the "stand your ground" law.

3. The police have the right to enter your home forcefully, whether it's a knock or no-knock, the can break down your door if deemed appropriate.

This was a bad situation waiting to happen, and create a deadly outcome.

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This doesn't happen if Florida, because it can't happen here. We banned no knock warrants. Everyone should.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Cover up.

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I can see how it was hard to charge the cops.
They just sucked at their job.
incompetence like that should be criminal, but is not in America.
No this was not a correct outcome.
Innocents are dead, trust destroyed.

It's racist ding, because it happens more to black people, because of racism. See cheater. duh.
It needs fixing.

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malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
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That's a flat out humongous balds faced lie!

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Everything is a lie to Gary.

Seriously, he's like a broken record..

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malice may attack it,
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there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

It is not "racist".

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Ask those affected.
And see Cheaters confirmation above.

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Edited: 09/28/2020 at 02:08 PM by WG

It is only "racist" in the view of those who see no problem with the high amount of "black" crime. No, there is no valid argument against that fact. Do Not use that old, tired, "those poor people" excuse. They are killing themselves. Crime is crime. Things need to get a whole bunch better before I feel sorry about any of it.

Many years ago in Tallahassee my house mates were paramedics working out of TMH. One night they got a call. They got to the scene in French Town and found a black man laying on the street corner, "dead as a wedge", with a pretty tight pattern of four bullet wounds. My buddy asked the crowd what happened. "He fell down"!

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Edited: 09/28/2020 at 03:13 PM by dingpatch

It's only racist is the view of the normal human beings. Black people do not commit more crimes than other races.



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I'm sorry. I've been in "a bad spot" with everything lately. I will elaborate later.

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JFC...the balls on this guy...

Officer sues Breonna Taylor's boyfriend over emotional distress

The lawsuit claims Louisville Sergeant Jonathan Mattingly experienced "severe trauma, mental anguish, and emotional distress" because of Kenneth Walker's actions on March 13.

Mattingly and two other officers entered Taylor's apartment early in the morning that day with a warrant in an attempt to carry out a drug investigation. Walker, a licensed gun owner who said he thought the officers were intruders, allegedly fired a shot that hit Mattingly in the leg. Police opened fire, killing Taylor. Taylor had no criminal record and no drugs were found.

"Walker's conduct in shooting Mattingly is outrageous, intolerable, and offends all accepted standards of decency and morality," the lawsuit said, citing one of the legal standards for intentional emotional distress.

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DOJ charges 4 Louisville police officers in Breonna Taylor case

Attorney General Merrick Garland said that civil rights offenses, including a falsified search warrant, led to the killing of the 26-year-old Black woman and emergency room technician in Louisville, Ky.

Kyle Meany, Joshua Jaynes and Kelly Goodlett were among the officers charged with using false information to obtain the search warrant. A fourth officer, Brett Hankison, was charged with using excessive force. According to Reuters, all four of the officers were arrested on Thursday.

Garland alleged that Taylor's Fourth Amendment rights were violated when three of the officers obtained the warrant knowing they lacked probable cause, understanding it contained false information and omitted other information. He claimed that the defendants knew that allegations of drug trafficking occurred at Taylor's address were not true and that the warrant would be executed by armed officers.

According to Garland, the officers who executed the search warrant were not involved in obtaining it and were not aware it had false information. Garland said the officers involved with obtaining the warrant created false documents and conspired to lie to investigators in the aftermath of Taylor's death.

The officers were looking for a drug suspect who lived 10 miles away and was already in police custody. During the execution of the "no-knock" warrant, Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired one shot, to which more than 20 rounds were returned, striking and killing Taylor.

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The FBI calls you a liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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dingbatch super concerned about "black" crime! oh and he's got a personal story!

Hey dingbatch did your parents have to drink out of a different drinking fountain than the white folk? Were they concerned about having their house blown up because they told other people they wanted to be treated the same? Did you or your parents have trouble getting loans, housing, an education?

You don't know $hit about any of that. SO take your black on black crime right wing hate speech and roll it up in your confederate flag and stuff it.

The process failed, whoever was at fault, innocent people died.
All those who acted, by signing paper or pulling a trigger, have to ask themselves if they made a mistake.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

If I get shot at...Ima shooting back....

SCREW YOU!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

I was taught to value life more than that.
I was taught to try to get out of the line of fire first,
try to figure out WTF was going on first.

I think cops are taught that too,
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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

You do realize that the cops didnt get shot...right?

They shot the people INSIDE the residence.

The one cop moved and shot thru a window!

If someone is breaking into MY house know one thing...I will be out of harms way when I fire...and the bullets will fly!

If you are inside my house unannounced you will get shot!

FACT!

Sherriff Wayne Ivey wont be charging me either!

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Edited: 08/04/2022 at 02:24 PM by Fish Killer

Yeah?


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Edited: 08/04/2022 at 03:10 PM by Pagerow

Sounds like a case for "felony murder" on the part of the police.

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Falsified warrants huh? Ouch. Manslaughter at the least.

yep,

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

...yo...moron...come on over and break into my house.

Idiot!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.