still @ 90%.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 11/02/2020 at 08:17 AM by WG

I'll put at 40% with all the bullshit they will attempt.

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I was right.

Edited: 10/24/2020 at 06:18 AM by Cole

Agreed, Trump can still win this election.

It isn't over until the fat orange baby sings...or cries.

Vote.
If you have, awesome.
If you are eligible and haven't please do.
It is your right. Either way you decide, it is important to vote.

Early voting is a piece of cake and the poll are open saturday and sunday.
Just do it!

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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

^ says the guy who couldn't see the first wave coming"P

Lately I think he will win.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 10/24/2020 at 10:55 AM by RustyTruck

I've never seen a Democratic political sign in my neighborhood, there are dozens of Biden signs now.

I think Biden is going to crush Trump.

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I was right.

you didn't think Pumpkin Orange would win, so ya don't have a great track record there guy

Write in or other?

Typo, I think trump is going to win the swing states again by narrow margins. Wouldnt mind being wrong, just what it feels like at the moment.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 10/24/2020 at 10:59 AM by RustyTruck

But who is we?

When russki says "we" it's him, Putin, ghislaine, trump, qwankit, and guppy swallower.

Edited: 10/24/2020 at 11:22 AM by Greensleeves

Damn

I know!

Look Satan always has a chance, ignorance always has a chance, hate always has a chance. It's the human condition.

Look at tspank, that ignorant fucker rejects civility and compassion for avarice. The dotards are wretched and gross but yes they have a chance.

What Bamboo said is the way to take a step forward.

I believe the human condition is better than that and this was just a glitch in time. I'm hopeful.

The most hysterical thing is that OBAMA is now campaigning for Biden...IN MIAMI!

Biden wont come out of the basement because he KNOWS every question will be about his RICO criminal son and himself!

He had to get OBAMA to campaign for him because he can't even get up enough energy to hit a rally or two...with three or four people in attendance!

EVERYONE knows exactly why Obama is doing this now!

EVERYONE!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Fuck you fat a$$. Obama made stock market people a boatload of money, isn't that what you bitches rave about when you talk of your orange god?

Trump is now struggling is supposed Red states. Georgia, Texas and North Carolina shouldn't even be an issue, but they are.

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I was right.

I'd like to see Biden spend time in Texas this week. I'd love to see Texas flip to blue.

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When America was "great"

Floriduh might be the only one Trump gets, but that's within the margin of error, so...

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I was right.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

12% today

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 10/25/2020 at 09:16 AM by WG

Trump could rally in every county in every state in the country and due to the dynamics of this election year it wouldn't change a damn thing.

The vote is already baked, as long as everybody votes.
The number of sincerely undecided voters is insignificant.

This is just a final advertisement blitz for the Trump brand to be capitalized on after he is out of office.

Of course he could pull a rabbit out of the hat and win the electoin, but those hopes are looking very dim. Plus his antics, his temperament, and his lack of leadership hasn't done a damn thing to help his own campaign.



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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

At least a couple weeks this shit will be over hopefully and we can get on to the next phase of the American decline.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Trump's 60 Minutes was even worse than first reported and likely cost him any chance of winning reelection.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

That's such a nihilistic view. We have our issues, but we're better than that.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

you hate to hear it, but it's true.

Rusty is on a real pout fest.

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I was right.

Care to elaborate about the "decline"? Use your words.

No free money.

No free healthcare.

No free food.

Basically, no Cuban style socialism.

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I was right.

Sure guys, things are going great. Keep smiling.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

It was going well when Obama left office. Not so much now.

Clinton would have been a much better president. She was a leader, Trump isn't.

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I was right.

There's a basic economic insecurity that's growing in this country; costs are rising, real income is falling, and wealth is being transferred upward at an alarming rate.
We're the only ones with no national healthcare system, and the dreaded Soviet style bread lines from cold war propaganda are becoming a reality for many forced out of work and sometimes out of doors due to the collapse of service and hospitality industries.

It's unsustainable, and the "two party system" and american constitutional oligarchy are proving ineffective and unable to respond to it because those who benefit can purchase the government that serves their interests.

And that, fellahs, will continue no matter what happens next Tuesday. So whether you celebrate or mourn, as ol' Joe said "nothing will fundamentally change".

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

For 30 years, Republicans have been systematically working on doing away with workers rights and their efforts have reaped a treasure trove of benefits for the corporate world.

Biden is still pro union.

Biden is for a living wage.

Biden is for worker's right.

The two candidates are not the same; not even close.

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I was right.

russki just a sad shell of a commie anymore.

Nah, I'm in mostly good spirits. Next week there's a 100% chance that some candidate I don't like is going to lose.

And should Biden be the winner, I look forward to him proving me wrong. However should he continue the neolib tradition of paying lip service to workers while making deals that benefit the donor class, I'll resist and organize against him same as we did under trump.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

He needs a Democratic Senate or there will be record obstruction once again. Republicans blocked Obama, even when it came to their own ideas.

There will be big changes if it all goes Blue.



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I was right.

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GOP:

Gaslight
Obstruct
Project

Wasn't Hillary supposed to win by a landslide... And that's when they didn't control the government, GOD only knows what tricks they have up their sleeve and what they'll pull now they do hold power??? Bit of chatter about how electors actually get chosen, if you're following

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Nah - greenSketch is too ignant to see 2 sides of the same coin discust,

Surferwhiner visiting from 2016! Hey surferwhiner things have changed a lot, everybody in America knows that your orange pervert hero is a complete sack of shit. So that's a little different than 2016 I guess. You might've missed the 2018 midterms, people showed up to vote just because they hated the QOP cause, which appears to be racism, ignorance, and more ignorance. Kind of like the confederacy but a lot fatter.

Edited: 10/26/2020 at 06:24 PM by Greensleeves

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Yes, the Trump people hope that the Republican legislatures in swing states pull a fast one after the election and Three Card Monte their electors in an effort to rig the election. Will they put their careers on the line to keep Don the Con in office? That's the big question.

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I was right.

Edited: 10/27/2020 at 04:53 AM by Cole

Why do you fuckers always assume that when someone doesn't follow your narrative then they're automatically super fans of Trump. Ever think this us versus them is the actual problem? But anyways I'm far from a Trump supporter - actually Bernie - and I know it's not a thought you want to have but what I'm saying is don't count the votes quite yet! And definitely don't be surprised when he tries to pull some craziness if it is close. Look into how the actual electors who cast their votes in the electoral college are "appointed"... Some very scary shit... If that happens we pretty much will be observing the death of government as we know it

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Edited: 10/27/2020 at 07:25 PM by surferclimber

Look into how the actual electors who cast their votes in the electoral college are "appointed"... Some very scary shit... If that happens we pretty much will be observing the death of government as we know it.

Yes, and we aren't the country of Trump, we are the country of the United States Constitution. This is why I am voting for Joe Biden.

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I was right.

This is the closest the country has been to collapse since the Civil War and one man is the reason. That man needs to go.

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I was right.

The divide and hate within society feels like we are already in another civil war. IMHO it really started back with the 06-08 crash and isn't as much about politics than we think, but rather I feel it is a more of sn economical division. The rich love Trump, the poor long for magic solution sold by Dems. The majority of us are somewhere in the middle, yet we've been kinda brainwashed to pick a side and hate on the other...

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Edited: 10/28/2020 at 08:21 PM by surferclimber

Yea, but time's running out for DJT
Joe's pulling ahead a little more each day
He has a solid over 50% vote in most polls.
Hillary never got close to that.
Trump has to change someminds,
Not enough undecideds left for him
This time nobody has a right to say
they didn't know what Trump is.
Odds holding at 12%.
I'm starting to breath.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Edited: 10/27/2020 at 09:08 PM by WG

Sure you are surferwhiner. Most Bernie bots are closet twitler lovers since they don't understand/like the "mainstream" and would rather have chaos. Bernie helped elect trump in the first place. What an ass.

Funny, geuss you know me more than me then... But anyways and seriously if you don't think it was Obama who opened the door to elect Trump you are really missing something. Doesn't make sense that Bernie elected him as I'm fairly confident that if he ran against Trump in 2016 (or if this year) he wins, especially in 2016 as he would have captured those voters who either voted against Hillary or abstained because of Hillary. But the Dems, as in traditional form, took the safe route ( read pussed out ) and choose what they thought was the safe candidate instead of standing up, joining with Bernie making a plan and trying for it. In 2016 our country was swinging no matter what - again natural reaction to Obama's presidency - and I believe we then had the opportunity to go left, but we didn't and fuck only knows where we are now and GOD only knows where we will be next Wednesday morning. My honest geuss is election tied, regular people confused & distain then probably more rioting in the streets. I'm just over this shit, nobody is seeing the bigger picture just focused on blaming & hating on others...

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Edited: 10/28/2020 at 08:16 PM by surferclimber

That's an interesting theory there, Green.

Being counter culture was "in" like 40-50 years ago.

Now all the rando dumbos want to be "anti-establishment" en masse, and the people that can think for themselves realize its fake and ill-focused.

Those of us that were "counter culture" many years ago can see through this charade.

We are always ahead with what would later become a watered down / misinterpreted fad for the masses.

These people are like 40 years behind the times. This is their "punk rock" phase LOL

Cole knows what I'm talking about..


Get out your Trump/Sex Pistols tee shirts dotards hahaha



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When America was "great"

Edited: 10/27/2020 at 09:17 PM by fishkller

Yes proper fish slayer. I said before, I voted third party back when. Back when I too thought the candidates/parties were the same. (Pre internet!) Well I was wrong, the candidates/parties weren't the same back then, and they certainly aren't the same now. You have to be a kkklown to pine for Bernie and then not vote for Joe over twitler.

Edited: 10/27/2020 at 10:24 PM by Greensleeves

Well only a POS prog commie would vote for a RICO Crime family over a non-politician.

That moron would be you!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Really? What exactly is this "organization that you speak of? Who is this "we"?

Best way to resist tRump at this point is to vote for Biden.

Once the tyrant is gone and all of his executive orders are reversed, then we can get back to the hippie dream.

Also lot of people to prosecute.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Well there are lots of organizations one may affiliate with that have at the center a critical analysis of capitalism. But what I meant was organize in the sense of working with and encouraging others to take collective and direct action to resist the institutional violence that the system directs at the working class every day. Schools, workplaces, streets, fight were you stand.

Make no mistake, a Biden admin will be a right wing government.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

There was a crash in 2006? I don't remember that.. please elaborate

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When America was "great"

I didn't hate Dubya, he just had bad Republican fiscal policy like all Republicans, some of his other stuff I quite liked; his immigration plan being one of those.. Trump is the problem.

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I was right.

11%

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Bush43's CIR plan was worthwhile and one of the things i thought he did well. Unfortunately he couldn't get the rest of the GOP to back him on it. Sad, it would have been a good legacy for Bush.




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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

Things started to peak & break down late in 2006 more into 2007 as that's when the majority of the initial interest only loans came to expiry... it took a while to trickle through to where it was front and center, but if you were paying attention and moved your money out of stocks ( or rebalance 401k for regular investors ) into cash then you made out quite well or at least avoided loosing half of retirement savings. 2008 was the beginning of the residual effects, but the real event was before when all of those over extended homeowners were no longer able to pay the bill

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

damn surferwhiner showing the bigot in him, good let it out, dotards need to show their colors!! Stomp around some surferwhiner you deserve it! Your rich orange hero gives you the right to be every bit the ignorant racist you and KKKrankit, and KKKeater5, and tspankkk want to be!!

The only thing Obama did wrong was invite complacency from the Dems as things were turning out ok. Dems get riled when $Hit goes wrong, ex: 2018 midterms. But when Dems are pissed the GOP gets beat, ex: next Tuesday.

Well that's mature automatically jumping to calling someone terms that would be in a normal adult environment legally called "defamatory" just because they originally said a fact "hey this election isn't over, and they might pull some crazy shit" and then said another fact about how American politics swings back & forth. Well geuss my takeaway is either what I wrote was spot on or you're a well trained pice of shit bot: any argument can't process quick quick jump to attacking along racist yeah that's it nobody will notice... but they do and it shit like that, fuckers like you, that give the democratic party a bad name. Pissed of assholes that just attack everybody and find problems with everything complain complain complain. HINT, it's actually yourself that you're upset with!

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

Edited: 10/29/2020 at 10:21 PM by surferclimber

surferclimber
I think the divide is an intentional tactic of a minority right faction and their foreign allies.
Trump didn't cause it, he is the fruition of it.
But it's surely going to end soon.
There won't be a sudden 8% shift in public opinion.




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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

make no mistake russki is one demented commie

I heard he was pen pals with Snowden. At least until Snowden realized the US is good and Russia is a $Hithole and that russki has lost it. Hey how come trump never called Russia a $hithole country?

I'm beginning to get the feeling you don't appreciate my opinions.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Some are decent. Your inability to tell the GOP from the Democrat party border on bizarre to the point they appear phony.

Also the reports of the death of America are greatly exaggerated.

Oh I can tell them apart just fine, I just think supporting one over the other is like deciding if a quart of milk or leftover seafood smell worse when left in the sun a few hours.

And being told that one "must" choose from one of the two corporate approved parties is profoundly undemocratic and I find it repulsive.




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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 10/29/2020 at 11:48 AM by RustyTruck

That is spot on and exactly the issue - this stupid only 2 party system. The rest of the civilized world, or at least most of europe, operates on a 3 party system: nobody actually "wins" the election rather the one with the most votes must reach across the aisle and form a government with one of the losers. Imagine that actually working together not just pork conversation "you better put this in the bill or I ain't signing." I just don't know why we can't get out of this system. It's clear that the nature of things is really there: 1st progressive, far left socialist ( Bernie ) & 2nd middle of road establishment ( Joe ) & 3rd conservatives ( not sure who, but currently Trump is collecting their votes ). Why not let all 3 run

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

it may not be dead, but it is on the way. restin and pinin for the fijords ya hate to hear it

Just like the same dolts who say 'the world is ending', they have been predicting the 'decline of America' since inception.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

bro - if you don't recognize lil wayne coonin for trump as THE indicator... you may wanna stick with cookin! and gtfo!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Well the land mass named "America" will continue to exist, but no empire lasts forever. And the liberal policies that stabilized and balanced out the meaner tendencies of capitalism are being pushed back as greed becomes the central ethic of our culture. Massive and ever growing wealth inequality is not sustainable. Poor whites vote against their economic interests right now because they are easily motivated by racism and xenophobia. That can't last forever.

It's not going to collapse overnight, but the decline is there if you look for it. And it's not caused by "librtards" or "illegals", it's caused by the merger of corporate capitalism and government.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

exactly^ 5/5. .....dingsketch keeps yappin about a "great flood". it don't happen all at once ya big dummy! look at the patterns in the ancient rocks! infrastructures usually the first to go.

they just don't get it, Rusty. amerikkka the corporation is catfishing as a country.

Edited: 10/30/2020 at 05:47 AM by StirfryMcflurry

I find it interesting that the two party system has made us the most powerful and until four years ago, the most desirable country on Earth.

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I was right.

ya probly thought it would last forever, too. get out of that doo doo water , coal! it may be too late.

The environment will collapse before America will.

lol...bet? either way, you lose.

ah mcflail, what's it like to be an invertebrate?

down to 10%

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Really, Just name a few you affiliate with.

Nevermind you just are trying to catch up with Gary, Barry, Paul and Mike in the bullshit column.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

First rule of fightclub...


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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Exactly,
That is what you have become: cliché.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.

Thanks for the updates, WG

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When America was "great"

Biden is clearly favored to win the election

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Trump is going to need a whole lot of cheating to pull this one off.

Is he capable of doing it? Yes, especially with the help from Russian and Republican governors, as well as Dejoy.

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I was right.

or just the old fashioned way, and get more votes than the dementia patient

Hey mookie, how much for that gator wrasslin tour again?
Do you have those in the joisey swamps?
Go Bev.........

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It's a democratic hoax

...... Jersey Swamps.... No gators, but you can find a shitty football stadium, Joey Hoffa's remains, some ditched guns, burnt cars..... but no Canolis

He cant get more votes so hes trying to disqualify more voters. Classy.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.