DeSantis triumphs. DeSantis does with ease what our demented president cannot.

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Edited: 09/29/2021 at 10:54 AM by tpapablo

super-america-flag-eagle-rambo-stats.world.info.clownpenis.biz/~covid-patriots ?

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Hi. I'm Mike.

Based off Tpaps reference, lets do some math, shall we? 3,605, 862 cases, 54,067 deaths. That equates to a survival rate of 98.5%. Not bad. Especially when you consider 20% of Florida's population is over 65....and the actual number of cases is probably much higher due to non-symptomatic/people not getting tested. To bad most of you will ignore this and continue to live in fear of the un-masked and non-vaxxed.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Yeah. It's harmless and OUC asking folks to conserve water because they are short on liquid oxygen is a hoax.

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Computer chip shortage because a factories overseas keep shutting down when their workforces get sick. Also a hoax.

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BULLSHIT!

It's all about control of the world market!

FACT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Uh huh. global pedofile cabal. The people dropping like flies in the shithole countries where most of our stuff is made is a hoax.

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Hey Scom, are they shutting down because people are getting sick or are they forced to be shut down because of the governments reaction to people getting sick?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Why don't you look up what is going on in Indonesia, Vietnam, etc...? Are they in on the Fauci plandemic hoax?

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But wait, Trump mishandled the response, other countries should be fine right? No COVID doesn't care and never did, there was no correct response.

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If it’s legal will do it, if it’s not legal, we’ll figure out how to change the law-Joe Biden

Compare other wealthy countries. Trump handled it like Brazil. Pretty stupid.

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Hahahahahahahaha. I'm sure it's getting to the point where we now have to conserve water too.....lol

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

OUC purifies water with liquid oxygen. Some of their supply is being diverted to hospitals. You are saying that is a lie?

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It's over.....again.
duuhhhhhhhh......

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It's a democratic hoax

Lets clear some things up here. I have never said COVID is a hoax. COVID is real. Its also being used in a "never let a crisis go to waste" type manner, to exert fear and control. All that is reported in the media is fear, fear, fear....over a virus with a 98.5% survival rate. Lets take your example of OUC purifying their water with liquid O2. Why is there such a shortage now, with close to 60% of the population vaccinated? There wasn't this concern last year when no one was vaccinated? Either there is something else driving the shortage or there is more hospitalizations this time. Which, should logically lead one to ask....why are there more hospitalizations when more people are vaccinated? No matter how you look at.....things just don't add up.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

I asked you if OUC was lying about it's oxygen problem based on your "lol" statement. So you then go back to claiming that "things don't add up" because you can't wrap your head around the surge of covid in the large still-unvaccinated populations around the country. It just can't be that people going to restaurants, theaters, concerts, work, unvaccinated and unmasked this summer when Delta showed up could lead to high hospitalization rates. "They" are lying when they tell you that the unvaccinated counties have the highest death rates and "they" (they being pretty much every hospital system) are lying when tell you that the vast majority of their ICU patients and deaths are unvaxxed. Phil Valentine told me so I know its true.

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Tfap's arguement is flawed as always.

Do people have the freedom to drive blindfolded (or drunk) if they want to?

Why are you mandating your driving techniques on me? IT'S MY MONSTER TRUCK! Why can't I drive with a pillow case over my head?!?? This is 'sposed ta be MURIKA!

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Hi. I'm Mike.

Good to see DeSantis finally get his due from progs. No other governor has been as effective in squashing covid. He made a complete fool out of Dementia Joe, who obviously doesn't have a clue on how to tame covid. You almost have to feel sorry for the prog states. I have a feeling they are in for a world of hurt in the next few months.

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I :heart; Q

Look at him go- really earnin the name Twrongz.

oh Pabsie.. can you ever win?



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Who is Phil Valentine? Your prejudice is astounding and clouds your comprehension to what I am saying. Is there a shortage of Liquid Oxygen. Apparently so, Is it because of COVID, I'm not ready to jump on the bandwagon because there is too much skeptism/misinformation going around and I DO NOT TRUST THE MEDIA. And, Scom, almost 60% of FLorida is vaxxed, over half of them. So stop with this "large still-unvaccinated population BS"...its wrong. Staying within the context of Florida, I still stand by the question of, why are we seeing more hospitalization this time around? Objectively speaking...the only difference is a higher percentage of people are vaccinated. Florida has been open pretty much this whole time. Its a legit question, Scom. But not if arrogance gets in the way of an open mind. And pertaining to your "theys," their is too many variables to this virus AND THE VACCINE for "they" to come to such conclusions. I believe we're now simplifying it so much as to say that only Rs are the unvaxxed and the ones dying, right?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

One of seven 'conservative' talk radio disinformation agents that has died of covid in the last two months. So the OUC are letting the media lie or are the folks from OUC that have been making the press releases and giving interviews in on the plot? What are they getting out of the deal? Not in the red counties. What is 44% of 21.5 million? That is a pretty big number. What is the fraction that would be needed to get the Ro down to a good level? Why did the surge lag significant vaccinations by months? No it hasn't.

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Covid is conquered?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Read the charts and weep. DeSantis is our savior. Biden, however, is still killing Americans.

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I :heart; Q

Whatever you do, don't get vaccinated. You'll get chipped like a dog, turn into a refrigerator magnet, and your ball will swell up and burst.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

This.

Tfap, Bottom Gary, et all.. just make sure you don't take that vaccine, whatever you do. It's voodoo witchcraft, the mark of the beast.

Covid has been conquered by the mighty Ronnie desantis.

No need for vaccines. Just ignore all the hype!



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Things add up. Problem is many of you are just not very good at math.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Many years ago I got one of them graduate degrees in applied maths from fit, and one thing I do remember is the solution of exponential decay, e^-t and from that I see exactly why things are doing what they're doing due to that solution modeling the efficacy. So I think we already accept boosters will be needed, but are people going to line up over and over??? Probably the only way is if they can create a yearly single shot vaccine that covers both Rona + the usual flu shot. Soooo yeah I agree, really helps to understand math

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get up early and go surf - it'll make that hangover go away and/or make the workday more tolerable :)

I love this post! If people want to truly be free, better learn math. I agree - it needs to come in one neat package. There are plenty out there that have no problem getting vaxxed, but they just push it down the list. As long as that continues the fire will continue to smolder and occasionally flame up.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Since you're a fan of math, can you show me where the ones with natural immunity and are not vaxxed fall into your equation/ascertation?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Fuck off qotards. A little inconvenience in the form of science belief, mask wearing, vaccine truth, and leadership from deathsantis and there would be fewer dead Floridians.

Damn Qotards are small minded bitches.

***read with Sylvester the Cat's voice***

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

55,000 dead is now considered winning. lol

The bar is officially on the floor.

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I was right.

Once more, I'd like to speak to that "98.5% survivability rate". That rate means 3 in 200 die from this preventable disease. It implies that some are OK with this which suggests little/no concern for the 3 or those who love them. That lack of empathy has a name. Sociopathy. Is that you? Really? Do the right thing. Get the jab. Mask. It's not rocket science.

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This is comical. This idea that it's only fatal for 1.5% of our population means you minimize it and accept those deaths? Our population is at 332,278,200. The 1.5% of that is 4,984,173. You're willing to sacrifice these lives for "freedom" for herd immunity and some reliance on percentages that look minimal on paper? When the whole thing is preventable?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I can't help how you guys spin what I say around in your head, and somehow come to the conclusions that you do. Its called risk vs reward. And even that is subjective. Is it worth the risk of loosing our rights, allowing our government to act in a tyrannical manner, shut down the economy, impose all these draconian laws/"guidance" over something with that is both treatable, preventable, and has a 98.5% survival rate? (Even higher if you're under 65). I say no, you say yes. And....I would have every right to call you guys the sociopaths for wanting/welcoming such control over people, no? To surmise that I am only saying "no" because I am a "sociopath, lack concern/empathy/whatever is both a copout, and weak. It shows you are ruled with emotion and not logic.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

No, JB. Freedom also includes the freedom to get vaccinated. So, if vaccinations are 100% effective in preventing death, the only people who will die are those who decide to go unvaccinated. In other words, those who chose freedom are not endangering anyone but themselves. No one is being sacrificed. Let me ask youi something. In the early days of AIDS, would you have supported the banning of gay sex? Would you have taken away the freedom of gays for the good of the masses? As there was and is no vaccination for AIDS, seems like that ban would have a stronger argument than the one you are making.

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For some perspective, just over 400,000 Americans died in WWII. I guess that was just a big joke too.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

You would expose 5 million people to death rather than have the government make them get two free shots? And this is how you defend it, a risk reward calculus? What rights did you lose with the ten other shots you got? The government made you get a slew of shots for diseases you have never seen BECAUSE they made you get a slew of shots. This is just one more. Where was this loss of freedom before Covid?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Patriot Act, for me, was the beginning. Another examples of us loosing our rights (specifically the 4th amendment) over fear. If the shot was proven to work, had long term studies saying it was safe, and there was actual accountability if something did happen, then yes I would be on board with the shot. Thing is, if all I just said was in play....YOU WOULDN"T HAVE TO FORCE PEOPLE to take the shot. Sort of a side-note, why do you all discredit the ones who have developed natural immunities and still seem to want to force them to take a shot? You all also seem to gloss over the fact you can still catch and spread COVID, even with the shot, too.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

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Hi. I'm Mike.

It turns out that forcing people to take shots is the only some people will ever get inoculated. It's a dilemma for our government and their role in our lives. But basically it's the same reason heroin is illegal but heroin users complain that alcohol is legal and kills more people. Think about that.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

And there it is...the truth.....it is a big dilemma to contend with. There is no black and white answer. It all boils down to personal choice. There are legit reasons people do not want to take the shot (by the way, you don't achieve inoculation from taking it. Remember, this is the 1st time ever mRNA has been approved for human consumption, this is not like vaccines of the past, and you are not immune to COVID if you get it....but I digress) So, you either respect the person for their decision or act like a bigot. Seems like bigotry is still alive and well within the left....judging by the media and this forum alone.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

If you are valuing your skepticism and freedom above a deadly virus with a body count ten times that of the death toll in Vietnam, you are in the minority. Many of the most vocal defenders of the right to be free from life saving vaccinations have died slow painful deaths with pitiful pleas from their ventilators to get the vaccine. And your your skepticism about RNA vaccines is misplaced, unless you consider thirty years new. Also, the resulting drop in vaccinated patients contracting Covid. Some of the same people that get ultra critical of Covid vaccine were taking horse dewormer to fight Covid. Not because the science was out there but because that's the government science and they don't want you to know this hack. Morons. They are literally dying of their own ignorance.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Risk reward. Death rate from vaccine/death rate from covid. The end. And yeah, vaccinating people with functioning immune systems protects immunocompromised people. There's that too. You aren't just impacting yourself if you are a willing vector for the disease because freedom.

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What about the ones that are part of the 98.5% survival and have natural antibodies, Scom? What about the ones that have existing conditions that their drs advise against the shot, Scom? What about the ones that have taken everything into consideration and made their own decisions, Scom? They should be forced to still take the shot.....because you know...tyranny? Seriously, the amount of bigotry getting espoused on here against the "ant-vaxxers" would be astounding, if it wasn't coming from the Democrats. Seems "anti-vaxx" is the new "black" with you guys. Same ol bigotry, different focal point...

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 09/30/2021 at 08:05 AM by OBX

The vaccine doesn't hurt the antibodies and preliminary data show that the vaccine plus antibodies acquired from infection/exposure results in better immunity than either alone. Would you agree to someone demonstrating antibody positivity as a condition to not getting vaccinated? Those are few and far between but that is a legitimate exception in the case that it occurs that a doctor actually advises against it for some reason. What about the people for whom the vaccines don't work? They can stay home and not drive drunk. I'm sure they think that they are fine to drive after a six pack but they don't have a right to share the road in that condition. How about the medical workers that have to wash their hands and wear PPE and get a bunch of other vaccines as a condition of employment? Sure they are free to forgo the vaccine but the consequence should be that they quit their job too.

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Again with the WRONG comparison of this vaccine to the others already "accepted" by society. It amazes me how you guys hang on to that falsehood and still seem to think its justifiable. But either way, we know your true colors now, Scom. "My way are the highway" Right? Complete bigotry, don't you see that? Also, you do realize you are supporting someone being forced to loose their job because their Dr advises them against the vax, don't you? You cool with that? Also, are you a Dr? I ask because how do you know what conditions would qualify for an exemption, much less the frequency of them to make such a bold statement as "those are few and far between" (not sure how to address the 6pack comment, it has nothing to do with this discussion, really wish you'd quit with the non-sequitur BS)

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

What's the case fatality rate for measles?

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And again with the non-seqiutur, Scom. For you to pose this question, means you absolutely refuse to accept the fact that this Covid vaccine is not the same as anything we've ever been exposed to before. It's rather fascinating how resistant some of you are to this fact, and willfully prevent it from changing your mind, or at the very least, stop with this narrative.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

It is extremely relevant. Measles is way less deadly than Covid yet the vaccine is mostly mandatory. Covid vaccine illicits an immune response by introducing a protein into the blood that looks to your immune system about like Covid virus. Am I missing something?

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Yes, look up the difference between mRNA and mDNA vaccines and learn.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Tyranny. Jesus dude, take a Xanax or something.

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I was right.

I'm sure Mercola or RFK Jr. can fill me in.

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So you don't even want to learn, do you? Honest question, why?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

No.

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Are you?

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So let them reap the results of their own decision and stop trying to Karen them into yours. And there you go again with the "life saving vaccinations" rhetoric. I'll try another tactic....Can you still get COVID if you're vaccinated? (Yes) Can you still spread it? (Yes) Can you still die from COVID if your vaxxed (Yes). So, please explain to me the logic you're using to continually say things like "inoculation, life saving, etc" when discussing this vaccine? It is literally neither of those. Curious though, do you know some of the results from the studies over the past 30yrs of mRNA studies? Every stop and think...maybe its been studied so long because its extremely complicated and dangerous, and that maybe since this was rushed through, you should exercise caution? Or....just trust the media, government, and big pharma. Those are the two choices we are facing...

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Many of the soldiers in the Continental Army died slow, painful deaths in the cause of freedom. Their quest for freedom also cost many lives. Were they also morons? The soldiers who died in Normandy and Iwo Jima are morons? I have no skepticism about the vaccines. Don't know where you got that from. If I were to die ffrom covid, it won't be from ignorance. I know more about all of this than most. The thing is, I worship a higher power, as opposed to global warming, Fauci or whatever is the new prog flavor of the day. I am not afraid of dying because there is more to come. But all you guys have is this.

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I :heart; Q

It ain't spin Blowbs, less people would have died in FL and the economy would have been just fine if y'all weren't such ignorant old qooks. It's readily apparent!

Calling it a choice doesn't make it voluntary. Your rights end where another's begin. In a society, we live together. Your right to be be from societal protections means you would have people get infected and possibly because the theoretical loss of the freedoms to say no and a three second jab are too much to accept. It's selfish behavior that puts everyone else at risk. That's your choice the same way someone could choose to commit a crime.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

What is 1.5% of 330 million?

That's a bunch, isn't it? Especially when you consider there is a vaccine.

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I was right.

The thing is, I worship a higher power, as opposed to global warming, Fauci or whatever is the new prog flavor of the day. I am not afraid of dying because there is more to come. But all you guys have is this.


You are a horrible person.

Heaven???

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I was right.

Jesus, Twrongz is getting qookier by the day..

"more to come"? how the fuck does he "know" that? LOL

He's just like Gary- all talk, but he doesn't know jack shit.

Qook on hillbilly*....







* I apologize to any hillbillies that may have been offended by my associating them with Tfap.

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Hi. I'm Mike.

From your vantage point, I suppose I am a horrible person. A badge of honor that I will wear proudly. If progs ever saw me otherwise, I might well say goodbye to all of this and enter a monastery in the hope I can atone for my sins in time. Don't think that will happen, however. I don't see myself ever being in favor of murdering babies, or keeping blacks and other minorities oppressed, or denying people their freedom of body and thought, or promoting murder and crime, or cheating in elections and in other ways, or constantly bearing false witness, or any of the other iniquities sanctioned by progs. But if I get to that point, I hope I have enough morality left that I could check myself into a monastery.

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Your braggadocios delight in your own "intelligence" and your lack of care for those around you might just cause a u-turn at the pearly gates. You have an issue with abortion, but you freely wander into crowded spaces with no mask or vaccine in the time of a rabid pandemic. Saint Spreadious Virusus? Yep, that's the E ticket to hell.




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I was right.

scombrid: What's the case fatality rate for measles?

Whats the spontaneous miscarriage rate for the vaccine?
What effects does the vaccine have on future pregnancies?
Why does the vaccine web pages Say:
Individuals should tell the vaccination provider about all of their medical conditions, including if they:
have any allergies
have had myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)
have a fever
have a bleeding disorder or are on a blood thinner
are immunocompromised or are on a medicine that affects the immune system
are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or are breastfeeding
have received another COVID-19 vaccine
have ever fainted in association with an injection

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine was approved...
provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.
What are the known and potential risks of this product that the Government is mandating that we take or lose our jobs?
Can you give us specific numbers and demographics of who is having these adverse reactions?


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You ever read the patient leaflet for Aspirin? Extremely low. Look it up. Might want to see what real doctors say as opposed to Mercola and company.

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jonneyboy: Your rights end where another's begin.

NO, NOOO, you have it backward...
Their rights END WHERE MINE BEGIN...

The Governments rights END, WHERE MINE BEGIN...

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You aren't allowed to shit in your neighbors yard. You aren't allowed to shit in your own yard and let it flow into your neighbors yard.

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Asprin, dog shit, beer, what else you got to stray from the topic of this vaccine and the personal choice, vs tyranny, in taking it.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 09/30/2021 at 10:07 AM by OBX

Scom, if these guys want to "own the libs" by suffering from what is by all accounts a very nasty illness, with a very real possibility of long term complication or even death, then by god let them do it.

The regular people can continue to advocate for the protection of workplaces and schools with vaccinations and masks.

@Obie - dude, do not get vaccinated. It's a trap. It's going to turn your mRNA into MDNA which is an old Madonna album. Wait...... Madonna - Moderna... Damn it's a conspiracy!


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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Another weak attempt at distracting from the fact you should not be forced to inject something into your body if you do not want it, nor should you suffer any consequence for it. If you think otherwise, you're unamerican and deserve the shitstorm thats brewing. But then again, you're a fucking commie, so of course your unamerican.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

So you oppose all mandatory vaccines going back to small pox?

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Edited: 09/30/2021 at 10:42 AM by scombrid

mRNA is fascinating, and has a lot of potential to cure some genetic diseases...ONCE THEY FIGURE IT OUT. I'm glad you're at least looking at what mRNA is. Go one step further, and compare it mDNA vaccines to understand the differences. Then, maybe at least in this once instance, you'll realize the narrative comparing this to polio/measels/etc being shoved down our throats, is FALSE.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

The vaccine isn't gene therapy.

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I know its not, didn't say it was. If you would take off the defensive/attack stance, you'd see that I actually think there is a lot of potential with mRNAs. Doesn't mean I welcome the use for vaccination. You had another question about mDNA. Just google "differences between mDNA and mRNA vaccines." Or even better, "the history of mRNA vaccines" Actually...here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3597572/ (I REALIZE THIS IS FROM 2012, doesn't mean whats being presented is inaccurate and shows that at least within the last 9 years, it hasn't been perfected)

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

The paper I linked yesterday was from 2019 and looked at Plasmid DNA vs mRNA. The old "proven" vaccines (MMR, Polio, etc..) are none of the above. Getting no hits for "mDNA".

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Interesting bit in this efficacy study is that 1 in 7.5 unvaccinated people in the Northeast got covid March through August of this year whereas 1 in 2.5 got covid in the less vaccinated south. Seems the higher vaccination rate blunted transmission in the entire population.

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Edited: 10/01/2021 at 05:55 AM by scombrid

Yes, and with all of those "mandatory" vaccines you are permitted a way out, if you so choose so, at least it used to be the case. Also, I'm not aware of lacking any of these that would get you fired from your current job.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Quite a few things you're not aware of.

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"I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time"

We'd still have polio and measles if it was up to your line of thinking.

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Yet "my line of thinking" was the norm back then, and we don't. Are you guys seriously that dense, too stubborn, or whatever to keep coming back to this argument? Unreal....yet fascinating the extent ego will push one to maintain the inherent bias in spite of what's being presented to them. (refer to my signature).

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

It is kind of nice to look at the nationwide county by county data here lately.

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Its a never ending competing set of needs. Liberties vs. order. The liberty to do what you want is protected by the Government subject to the need to keep order. The Government does not have rights. When I said your rights end where mine begin, that remains the issue. The social contract of all of us living together requires some sacrifices. This vaccine was on of many developed over the years to save our lives. If you don't take it, you could die or subject others to death. That risk is weighed against a jab a couple of times for a few seconds. You wont get autism, you aren't being tracked and you won't suffer any worse symptoms than a bottle of aspirin warns you about.

Ah, Tpap. You have fallen so low. Comparing fighting vaccines to soldiers in the Continental Army facing down cannons and muskets? Falsely equating your rejection of the vaccine with attacking soldiers who fought in Iwo Jima? And then invoking a higher power that you devout with in your estimation? This is the last refuge of your desperation. This is truly devoid of facts and logic, perhaps thats why it works with you. As far as your moral overflow, I think it would be better suited to MAGA wet t shirt contest than a monastery, but a higher power and a religion of one finds its sacraments so maybe just a strip club in the off season in a spring break town on your coast.

Obie, you should be forced to pay for the education Scom gave you. Its that good.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Bring back the freedom of small pox, Polio, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, tuberculosis, hepatitis, and whatever else mandatory vaccines have eradicated. So free. So free. How about this, if you're too stupid to trust the science of these successful measures, you are too dangerous to live amongst the vaccinated. You and people just as daft as you could start new variants of previously eradicated viruses that could kill millions and instead of ever acknowledging the stupidity of your refusal to protect yourself, you die. When you die, you kill others. Your freedom to die ends all of your freedoms and you and your higher power can decide your reward.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"too stupid to trust the science." Love it, you do realize this "science" you speak of is still being figured out, don't you? You are aware of the "science" thats out there backing up everything I've said about the difference in this vaccine compared to the past, the dangers in mRNA vaccines and the historical challenges they've had with being successful, and the "science" saying that even if you take this shot, you're no better than someone who has natural immunities, can still spread the disease, and can still die from it. Some of you even refuse to learn what the difference is between mRNA and mDNA vaccines are. AND....to add insult to injury you espouse such bigotry to the opposing opinion using your fear as a virtue, and then go on to call me "daft." Classic....

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Only small pox on that list has been eradicated. Took about 200 years for small pox after a vaccine came out. Let me tell you something about science since it is obvious that you are not versed in that field. In science, you never trust the science. Trusting the science is inconsistent with the entire philosophy of science. If everyone had always trusted the science, you would still think that the sun was a god, which is what the science of the day held.

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Well there is considered skepticism with data driven hypothesis testing. Then there's the alternative facts folks (GOP) that just make things up. But these are the type of people that cause modern measles outbreaks and that cause polio to continue to exist in hyper religious places like Afganistan.

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Alternate facts like this vaccine is the same as Polio's? "these are the type of people" and equating an outbreak with "hyper religion".......interesting choice of words. One could say there is a tinge of prejudice in them. tsk tsk tsk.

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People are telling you that the principle of the mandate is analogous to polio or measles and that is your take away?

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What is mDNA? I've not seen inactivated or live virus vaccines like polio and measles called mDNA.

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Tinge? Hah. We all know where they violently refuse vaccines and why. Yes I am prejudiced against that mindset.

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The vaccine is a symptom mitigator, that's it. It does not prevent anybody from getting it or spreading it if they have it. No one should be forced, fired, bullied into it period.

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What would our founding father George Washington do in a situation like this?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

He would probably subscribe to the notion that Ben Franklin had of; "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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Doubt he would madate vaccinations for everyone.

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http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/...llpoxinoculation.html

>>George Washington's military genius is undisputed. Yet American independence must be partially attributed to a strategy for which history has given the infamous general little credit: his controversial medical actions. Traditionally, the Battle of Saratoga is credited with tipping the revolutionary scales. Yet the health of the Continental regulars involved in battle was a product of the ambitious initiative Washington began earlier that year at Morristown, close on the heels of the victorious Battle of Princeton. Among the Continental regulars in the American Revolution, 90 percent of deaths were caused by disease, and Variola the small pox virus was the most vicious of them all. (Gabriel and Metz 1992, 107)

On the 6th of January 1777, George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all of the forces that came through Philadelphia. He explained that: "Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, for should the disorder infect the Army . . . we should have more to dread from it, than from the Sword of the Enemy." The urgency was real. Troops were scarce and encampments had turned into nomadic hospitals of festering disease, deterring further recruitment. Both Benedict Arnold and Benjamin Franklin, after surveying the havoc wreaked by Variola in the Canadian campaign, expressed fears that the virus would be the army's ultimate downfall. (Fenn 2001, 69)<<

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Yep, he never ordered anyone to get vaccinated. To the contrary, he ordered new recruits to acquire natural immunity by catching the disease. And he damn sure didn't force everyone in the 13 colonies to get vaccinated or even innoculated. So, I doubt he would mandate vaccinations for everyone today. George strongly believed in freedom.

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The real George Washington.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/...allpoxinoculation.html

He used what he had to work with at the time. Had there been a cure, he would have taken the same action.

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As he should have. I would point out that after the war he became president. Though small pox was still a big thing, he did not, as president, mandate vaccinations or innoculations for anyone. So, I would seem to be correct.

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mDNA, presumably mitochondrial DNA vaccines? Do tell. mRNA, messenger RNA vaccines, a now proven commodity. Humor, when the acronyms become FUBAR. Quick, what's the difference between deoxyribo- and ribonucleic acids? Uracil-ly!

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>> George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all of the forces that came through Philadelphia.<<

Did you miss that part.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

No, I know more about it than that little blurb. Did you miss the part about George becoming president when small pox was still a big problem and he didn't mandate innoculations? Look, you are going to get anywhere by trying to best me. Try your luck with the progs on this forum. They are stupid and it is comically easy to make fools out of them.

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Did Washington force inoculations, yes or no?

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Ah Tpap, you walked right into this one. GW mandated vaccinations for his troops and anyone trying to join. That is clear. He could not mandate the general population getting the vaccine because he had no jurisdiction over them as a military leader. Once he was president, the war was over and the camp's that caused the outbreaks faded away. He saved these troops lives and he didnt ask for their permission to do it. They didn't have the freedom to kill themselves or others in some parody of freedom sold by by billionaires to the plebs for reasons that will always be selfish and cruel.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

The question was what would Washington do, no? When he was president, he didn't order mandatory small pox vaccinations. Thus, we know exactly what he would do if he were president now.

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I wonder if GW would keep his slaves nowadays? I mean we must know what he'd do right?

PS If qspankblo represents the elite qotard intelligence level no wonder they are fading into the annals of history. Yuck.

Tpap is a moron. Washington was no longer in office after 1797. The small pox vaccine was created in 1798 and not completely in use until 1800-1801. So only an idiot would ask: "What would Washington do?" However, he did order his troops be "inoculated" during the Revolutionary War in 1777 as there was no vaccine at the time. Inoculation was different than vaccine.

So we have a bunch of prog states with more deaths and cases than Florida now, even with their masks, vaccine mandates and other garbage. It's nice to be free, ain't it boys?

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^You might want to add "per capita" to your search: FL>SC>AR>MS... All progressive bastions.

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We're finally saved. Until the next variant comes our way. But at least out Florida Governor knows how to deal with it.

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95% reduction in Florida deaths is bad news for you progs. But there is news that you progs can celebrate. DeSantis' wife has been diagnosed with cancer.

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Hi. I'm Mike.

New York had 217 covid deaths in August 2021. Florida had 7,101. September 288/3537 and that is with Florida dragging its feet reporting death stats. The numbers for all of 2021 so far: NY 4,585 to FL 21,199.

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Fl is the best. And we didn't have to endure any stupid vaccination or mask mandates. I have to imagine that the citizens in prog states must feel like fools for having had to go through that for no reason at all.

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How many businesses in prog states literally went out of business...forever?

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

How many in Florida went out of business forever because people refused to go due to the rampant spread of the Delta variant?

Then there is the 58,000 deaths. California has 71,000 with double the population.

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And for the third or possibly fourth time, you keep acting like the virus is gone. It isn't.

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How many businesses went under nationally due to FAUCI'S covid gain of function virus?

How many have DIED nationally due to FAUCI'S covid gain of function virus?

California is about 2.9 times bigger than Florida.
Florida is approximately 139,670 sq km, while California is approximately 403,882 sq km, making California 189% larger than Florida.

Meanwhile Florida has a percentage of population of frail elderly that far outnumbers California. Florida has the highest percentage of senior citizens (21%).

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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25,000 restaurants in Ca. alone. A crime. So 100's of thousand across the country. Surprised those people didn't revolt.

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Funny, Florida didn't bother to track the closure data. Imagine that. What you can't see, can't hurt you at the polling booth.

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I wonder what our real death total is? 100,000 I'm guessing.

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Qspankblo an expert on the Golden State. No revolting in mims. You're already hopelessly shit.