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Topic Title: Netflix caves on Chappelle. Topic Summary: Created On: 10/20/2021 07:16 AM |
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- OBX | - 10/25/2021 10:04 AM |
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- HAPDigital | - 10/21/2021 03:56 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 10/21/2021 05:18 AM |
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- Cole | - 10/21/2021 06:41 AM |
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- HAPDigital | - 10/23/2021 07:31 PM |
- nukeh2o | - 10/23/2021 10:59 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 10/24/2021 06:46 AM |
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- Greensleeves | - 10/25/2021 06:20 AM |
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- RiddleMe | - 10/25/2021 07:32 AM |
- stokedpanda | - 10/25/2021 07:02 AM |
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10/20/2021 07:16 AM
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10/20/2021 07:18 AM
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CNN's Lemon: GOP Was for Law and Order Until 'Shady Real Estate' Trump Came Along
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10/20/2021 07:25 AM
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CNN's Lemon: GOP Was for Law and Order Until 'Shady Real Estate' Trump Came Along Yeah, quite funny how that all played out. Now they are stuck with him. Trying to get a lame duck back in office 4 years later LOL what a wasted of time and money. It's like beating a dead horse that has been in the grave for 8 years. |
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10/20/2021 07:38 AM
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Caving would be removing it from Netflix. He is doing standup and the more people he offends, the funnier it probably is. People need to stop being so fucking sensitive about everything.
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10/20/2021 08:32 AM
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He is doing standup and the more people he offends, the funnier it probably is. People need to stop being so fucking sensitive about everything. You just have to make sure that philosophy is adhered to uniformly; limited to: - Only blacks can make jokes about blacks, and blacks can only tell jokes about blacks; - Only whites can make jokes about whites, and whites can only tell jokes about whites ; - Only gays can make jokes about gays, and gays can only tell jokes about gays ; - Same for trans (and maybe they break it down male-to-female and vice-versa) - Same for every other group and sub-group in Chappelle's list of "Alphabet People" Either that, or wide open to all, but no double-standard just because one group has been historically more oppressed than another. Edited: 10/20/2021 at 08:32 AM by CurtisEflush |
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10/20/2021 04:45 PM
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He is doing standup and the more people he offends, the funnier it probably is. People need to stop being so fucking sensitive about everything. You just have to make sure that philosophy is adhered to uniformly; limited to: - Only blacks can make jokes about blacks, and blacks can only tell jokes about blacks; - Only whites can make jokes about whites, and whites can only tell jokes about whites ; - Only gays can make jokes about gays, and gays can only tell jokes about gays ; - Same for trans (and maybe they break it down male-to-female and vice-versa) - Same for every other group and sub-group in Chappelle's list of "Alphabet People" Either that, or wide open to all, but no double-standard just because one group has been historically more oppressed than another. I think Tosh has destroyed all of that. Remember when the US Gov tried to censor Lenny Bruce? I do. Comedians have been at the forefront of the right to free speech. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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10/20/2021 06:44 PM
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Comedians have been at the forefront of the right to free speech. Isolated hate crime statutes aside, comedians pretty much have that right. The free market has the power of "Cancel Culture" and can wield it as they see fit. Problem with that is they don't wield that power uniformly. |
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10/21/2021 04:55 AM
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Comedians have been at the forefront of the right to free speech. Isolated hate crime statutes aside, comedians pretty much have that right. The free market has the power of "Cancel Culture" and can wield it as they see fit. Problem with that is they don't wield that power uniformly. 100%. We see so many people 'against' cancel culture until they are for it. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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10/20/2021 12:57 PM
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People need to stop being so fucking sensitive about everything. Did you really just utter that demoshit mantra....snowflake?!?! Seriously? ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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10/21/2021 05:06 AM
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I am a snowflake Good. Admitting it is the first step. |
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10/20/2021 07:52 AM
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I've always been a fan, but I thought his new show was cringe. Not because it was impolite, it just wasn't funny.
And for the record I grew up on Pryor, Murphy, Carlin, etc. I think comedy should be edgy, but more importantly, it should be funny. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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10/20/2021 10:24 AM
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Its so bad now white people can't even use the N word, not seriously, but for jokes, like funny ones that you grew up with.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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10/20/2021 03:04 PM
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I saw the show and the end almost made me weep. Yeah, I said it! ALMOST!!! I'm a sensitive 90's kinda guy.
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10/20/2021 04:43 PM
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I saw the special. He made his point. Can't say I disagree.
------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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10/20/2021 09:36 PM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. But I will not discredit people that fall within the group that he offended and vocalize about it. What I am seeing and hearing is that it was pretty bad. He was saying some harsh stuff about gender, beyond joking. I'm bummed to hear this because I like Chappelle's comedy. Does he have a right to his belief and free speech, yes. If it offends the masses, should it effect his wallet? I guess that's how it works. Choose your words wisely in this day and age. The days of Don Rickles are over. It's a new world. Adapt and overcome...
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10/21/2021 03:37 AM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. Typical CRAPDigital bullshit. Make a definitive comment then state that in fact because you didnt read the required information you actually dont know shit. You need to go to the 'Fish Food Thread' and fudgepack Coleslaw some more! Go on....do it! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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10/21/2021 04:58 AM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. But I will not discredit people that fall within the group that he offended and vocalize about it. What I am seeing and hearing is that it was pretty bad. He was saying some harsh stuff about gender, beyond joking. I'm bummed to hear this because I like Chappelle's comedy. Does he have a right to his belief and free speech, yes. If it offends the masses, should it effect his wallet? I guess that's how it works. Choose your words wisely in this day and age. The days of Don Rickles are over. It's a new world. Adapt and overcome... You clearly did not watch this or any of his other specials. Go back and watch and see what he is trying to say. He has a point - basically the transgender community has asked him not to punch down. He made his point that he sees it as them punching down on him and the African-American community. But the only way to truly grasp it is to go watch. Until you watch his specials and the show with Dave Letterman, you really have an uninformed opinion. ------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay |
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10/23/2021 04:52 PM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. But I will not discredit people that fall within the group that he offended and vocalize about it. What I am seeing and hearing is that it was pretty bad. He was saying some harsh stuff about gender, beyond joking. I'm bummed to hear this because I like Chappelle's comedy. Does he have a right to his belief and free speech, yes. If it offends the masses, should it effect his wallet? I guess that's how it works. Choose your words wisely in this day and age. The days of Don Rickles are over. It's a new world. Adapt and overcome... You clearly did not watch this or any of his other specials. Go back and watch and see what he is trying to say. He has a point - basically the transgender community has asked him not to punch down. He made his point that he sees it as them punching down on him and the African-American community. But the only way to truly grasp it is to go watch. Until you watch his specials and the show with Dave Letterman, you really have an uninformed opinion. I have to agree with WTf there. There is nothing remotely resembling hate speech with this. His jokes should have been far more offensive to white people than trans people by far.... Not even close. Truthfully, this was brilliance, genius comedy if you understand what he was saying and where he was going with it. Honestly, the fact that people actually took his comedy the way they did, fired up the outrage machine, and staged a walkout at Netflix to the point they had to issue a statement only furthers the point he was making. He knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it. I get why people are upset, if I were part of the problem, I would be upset too. |
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10/25/2021 10:04 AM
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------------------------- "Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain |
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10/25/2021 10:43 AM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. ... Translation "I do not make my own opinions based off my own observations but will parrot the narrative because I'm a sheep"..... Translation: "I do not read through the threads completely and make comments based on an old out of date comment". |
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10/25/2021 10:50 AM
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------------------------- "Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain |
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10/25/2021 11:02 AM
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I think the difference here was his jokes were not jokes, it was hate speech. I did not watch it so I don't know for sure. ... Translation "I do not make my own opinions based off my own observations but will parrot the narrative because I'm a sheep"..... Translation: "I do not read through the threads completely and make comments based on an old out of date comment". Oh no, believe me the point I'm making is still very relevant So where did I parrot anyone. Please show exactly where. You also left off quite a bit of my statement. I was stating what people said it was, not parroting it or claiming it to be. Once again, it shows you do not read. You only see what you want. |
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10/21/2021 03:56 AM
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"I think" is not definitive, you moron. You need to get yourself a dictionary. I read about it various times. So that's another Fak lie.
Edited: 10/21/2021 at 04:14 AM by HAPDigital |
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10/21/2021 05:18 AM
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"I think" is not definitive, you moron. You need to get yourself a dictionary. I read about it various times. So that's another Fak lie. YO...SHITFORBRAINS! "it was hate speech" is in fact a definitive! FOOL! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 10/21/2021 at 05:29 AM by Fish Killer |
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10/21/2021 05:40 AM
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"I think" is not definitive, you moron. You need to get yourself a dictionary. I read about it various times. So that's another Fak lie. YO...SHITFORBRAINS! "it was hate speech" is in fact a definitive! FOOL! The only brains of shit are yours. "I think" and "I' don't know for sure" are not definitive statements. Are you an idiot, or can you not read a dictionary? definitive de·fin·i·tive /d??fin?div/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. (of a conclusion or agreement) done or reached decisively and with authority. "a definitive diagnosis" "I don't know for sure" is not with authority now is it... I am certain you are the dumbest fuckhead on here. That is a definitive statement. See the difference. Plus a lot of articles about this are talking about it being hate speech. You haven't read a single one. Now fuck off, you dimwit. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/chappelle-netflix-special-is-hate-speech-disguised-as-jokes-advocate-says Edited: 10/21/2021 at 05:41 AM by HAPDigital |
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10/21/2021 06:01 AM
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YO...SHITFORBRAINS!
"it was hate speech" is in fact a definitive! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 10/21/2021 at 06:01 AM by Fish Killer |
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10/21/2021 06:37 AM
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Eh, no, you moron. Not when it is combined with those other statements. You lost again. What's new...
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10/21/2021 06:41 AM
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Fatfish is a special kind of stupid, isn't he? lol
The clown's proof is something he pulled out of context. ------------------------- I was right. |
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10/21/2021 06:45 AM
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Fatfish is a special kind of stupid, isn't he? lol The clown's proof is something he pulled out of context. Yup. He lost and that is the only way he can feel good about himself, to lie. FK homophobic rant in 3...2...1... |
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10/23/2021 07:31 PM
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I never said it was hate speech. I said that's what reports are saying. "I did not watch it so I don't know for sure." I do not discredit those he offended. Not my place.
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10/23/2021 10:59 PM
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Chappelle is a racist misogynist bigot, period. Never liked his "comedy", and no friend of blacks, or much of anyone other than himself.
More of a cartoon nigga with his multiple flameouts, than anybody worth notice or attention., needs the money..... More self embarrassment and humiliation in 3,2,1....... ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 10/24/2021 at 11:51 AM by nukeh2o |
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10/24/2021 06:46 AM
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Chappelle is a racist bigot. More of a cartoon nigga... You're the racist bigot. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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10/24/2021 06:35 AM
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I watched it. I'm not sure what the fuss is all about. The parts about gender and trans people weren't funny. I wasn't upset about what he said so much as I thought the jokes about it were bad. All this fuss and I was hoping there was something funny about it. "Those pussies they got, know what I mean?...derrr". That's like what comedians say to make fun of bad comedians. He must be hurting for material in his old age. The eye of the tiger is fading... Or maybe his audience doesn't have any intellect and he is catering to his customers. Not sure. That part of his act was like reading crankit, snipes, lunch and fish posts. Of course they will love it.
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10/24/2021 06:59 AM
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I really shouldn't be surprised by the responses. If you are easily offended, deeply polarized, or lacking in intellect you will either laugh at the face value blindly or find it unfunny and offensive. That is part of the joke.
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10/24/2021 07:05 AM
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I really shouldn't be surprised by the responses. If you are easily offended, deeply polarized, or lacking in intellect you will either laugh at the face value blindly or find it unfunny and offensive. That is part of the joke. But it wasn't funny and it was not part of the joke. No where did he premise making fun of people or himself saying 'unfunny'. He literally said, "those pussies they got, you know what I mean?" Sounds like a bad phobic Seinfeld rip off. Now if he set the premise as talking about people like crankit etc, and was making fun. Then yeah, woulda been funny. |
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10/24/2021 07:11 AM
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Lmfao
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10/24/2021 07:12 AM
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If it was supposed to be trolling like Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton, I would like it. But it wasn't. Dude just doesn't have enough material anymore. He gave up.
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10/25/2021 06:20 AM
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Haters Ball, Time Haters, When being Real goes wrong, The Saga of Clayton Bigsby... good stuff. People can lose the magic... Van Halen for example
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10/25/2021 06:45 AM
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You have to watch his previous stuff to fully see his POV. This goes back several years/specials/shows. And then you can perhaps better understand. His other point is the outrage machine is not congruent - these are jokes and ya better learn to laugh at yourself. On top of that, his other point is they are both marginalized groups, and they should be working together, not fighting over some standup jokes. And he's right - something like 30 out of 3k NF employees protested - a whopping 0.01% - when that happens, sorry 30 people, you lost.
------------------------- QOP = Terrorists FK = Gay Edited: 10/25/2021 at 08:22 AM by wtf |
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10/25/2021 07:32 AM
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You have to watch his previous stuff to fully see his POV. This goes back several years/specials/shows. And then you can perhaps better understand. His other point is the outrage machine is not congruent - these are jokes and ya better learn to laugh at yourself. On top of that, his other point is they are both marginalized groups, and they should be working together, not fighting over some standup jokes. And he's right - something like 30 out of 3k NF employees protested - a whopping 0.1% - when that happens, sorry 30 people, you lost. ^ |
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10/25/2021 07:02 AM
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I thought it was pretty funny. Some of the jokes did take time to come around but to me that is a unique and difficult task he does well, and worth the wait.
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10/25/2021 07:55 AM
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I had heard mixed reviews about this one even from people who typically like Chappelle, so I went in not expecting it to be near as funny as it was.
Whatever happened to just not watching stuff that you don't enjoy watching? Why do these protestors want to prevent other people from watching something that they find funny? No one is forcing anyone to watch this special. The same authoritarians twats that want to control what you can or cannot view are the same ones that support controlling what information and news people have access to. Anyone who thinks the fascists will stop there is dumber than some of you who are about to quote this and post something stupid as shit. ------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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10/25/2021 09:06 AM
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The same authoritarians twats that want to control what you can or cannot view are the same ones that support controlling what information and news people have access to. Anyone who thinks the fascists will stop there Attacking the free press. Removing books from public schools that don't align with religious beliefs. Demanding mythology based curriculum be included in science classes. Attempting to disenfranchise more than half the country in a bid to illegally maintain power. Inciting an insurrection in the heart of our nation. Allowing conglomerates to buy up media outlets and force partisan content on them. Spreading and utilizing mis/disinformation to misinform the public and responding militantly to push back. On and on and on. Yet you still support Trump and the direction the GOP is going. Good work. |
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10/25/2021 12:35 PM
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10/25/2021 07:37 AM
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I've watched all of Chappelle's stuff. I love his work. But the "jokes" we are talking about were not funny. They were weak regardless of the backlash. Let's be honest. "those pussies they got, you know what I mean?" It's not funny. It's just not. Not even in a troll type shock comedy aspect. It's weak. The gender set was so bad, almost felt embarrassed for him. Like watching a drunk dad try to do comedy but it wasn't funny at all.
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10/25/2021 08:55 AM
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A comedian said something that hurt my feelings or made light of an issue I feel strongly about. It wasn't funny to me. Fire up that outrage machine and make some noise, time to cancel him.
Whatever. In context of all his work, the message he was sending (there was more than this one), and the expected reaction to it happening right on queue made it hilarious. Sure there were a couple of parts that were cringe worthy, but that was part of the point and absolutely done with intent. |
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10/25/2021 01:57 PM
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"I think" his skit was funny, and truthful, Problem is too many people get offended by the truth nowadays, he told it like it was, there was nothing hateful in what he said it was just point blank truth and some people can't handle that nowadays, and he actually spoke about that in the skit. yes there were a few off color jokes, but who cares, what are we coming to a sterile world weather can be nothing other than towing the line of mediocrity? Again that's just my opinion. Denis Leary had some pretty funny standup routines in the 90s that offended people back then, looking back now compared today's standards they were nothing but still funny as hell.
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