Apparently Baldwin killed someone with a "prop gun"? Why would a movie set use a real gun as a "prop gun"? Even if they did use a real gun, why the hell would it be loaded? This sounds more like Baldwin being careless with a firearm than it sounds like a prop accident. Even if I saw something that looked like a gun, the last thing I would do would be to point it somewhere and start pulling the trigger. Think Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter?

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“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

I'd not expect any charges BUT, , , , ,, , , WHAT IN THE FOOK was a loaded weapon doing on the set posing as a Prop ???!!!

Perhaps a Prop Master will be held accountable.

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He's a prog. Progs don't get prosecuted. Criminal laws are applied differently now, depending on political views.

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Is Baldwin a Dem? I just though he was a douchebag.

At any rate, it would make more sense to wait for more information on what actually happened. This isn't exactly the first time someone's been killed with a prop gun.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Correct for most of us.... butt it's all new to someone who calls hisself - sniper

Depends if it was careless or negligent behavior on his part. Don't yet know if it was a bullet that did the killing or a malfunction or some other situation. "prop guns" are guns firing blanks. Not the first time a prop gun has killed someone either, something I didn't know until I search the web for similar incidents. Haven't seen whether or not this was a gun that had an actual live round in it. Don't think it was. So who was negligent in maintaining the prop or careless in operating or both? Those questions are not answered in any article that I've read yet.

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Edited: 10/22/2021 at 11:32 AM by scombrid

Charge Baldwin with what? Nowhere near enough information to even suggest he did anything wrong or negligent.

Unconfirmed, but I'm seeing some rumblings about unsafe working conditions and workers quitting from the set of the movie they were working on. Sounds like these workers may have been replaced by non-union workers the day of the accident.



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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

Doesn't matter who's at fault in this ACCIDENT. Either way, the victim's family will be well off. I'd stand in front of a Baldwin all day if I knew my family would be taken care of when he fuggs up again. And you know he will

Edited: 10/22/2021 at 11:20 AM by SlimyBritches

Actors do not handle props off set unless they are under supervision/training. SAG follows strict rules about this stuff and what actors can and cannot do. This happened to Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son. However, he was on the bullet end of the accident and died. The DA for the case said the production company for The Crow was negligent but they did not follow through with any charges. Most likely something similar happened.

Here is was happened on the set of The Crow:
Hollowed-out cartridges are often used to film close-ups of a gun being loaded; the "dummy" cartridges are then supposed to be removed and replaced with blanks before being fired. The police investigation into Lee's death concluded that a tip of one of the cartridge's bullets broke off from the cartridge and lodged in the gun, then fired at Lee along with the blank.

Gun was "safe"...

Looks like their was some crazy drama with the production too.

Edited: 10/22/2021 at 10:14 PM by HAPDigital

Who aimed the gun and shot through one person and wounded another? If it was a western film a cowboy load (.45LC) is doubtful to penetrate that much!

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Doesn't matter. Not how it works on a large production. Prop experts are in charge of safety. Actors do one thing, act. Sure they can produce, direct and act but when it comes to weapons they always have and hire advisors. Lots of contracts release the actor from such liabilities as well.

As far as killing, doesn't seem you know the power of guns. Brandon Lee died to a blank round with a piced inside because it was not previously cleared properly.

I'm sure you will make conspiracy theories though. It's what you do.

It was a real gun, not a prop.

Since it was a real gun, it should have been handled like a real gun.

Baldwin learned the hard way what I was told and taught when I was 4 years old, "There is no such thing as an unloaded gun."

That is, treat the gun like it is loaded even if you know it isn't.

Anyone not doing this is a MORON!



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That's not how it works legally and contractually. It's considered a prop real or not. You know nothing about film production. Don't even try.

It's a FIREARM...BY LAW!

PERIOD!

YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT...AND DON'T CLAIM THAT YOU DO!

YOU ARENT A LAWYER AND YOU SURE AS FUCK ARENT A CALIFORNIA LAWYER....FUCKWAD!



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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:45 PM by Fish Killer

The accident happened in New Mexico.

LOL FK wrong as usual.

WELL THEN YOU ARENT A LAWYER AND YOU SURE AS FUCK ARENT A NEW MEXICO LAWYER....FUCKWAD!

AND HELL NO YOU AREN'T A NEW MEXICO PROCECUTOR WHO CAN INDICT A HAM SANDWICH!

FOOL!

THERE....FIXED IT FOR YOUR PROG COMMIE ASS!



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:44 PM by Fish Killer

LOL!
But let's not confuse the manic FK'er with the facts.



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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

Yeah and lets not confuse you and actual reading ability.

"WELL THEN YOU ARENT A LAWYER AND YOU SURE AS FUCK ARENT A NEW MEXICO LAWYER....FUCKWAD!
AND HELL NO YOU AREN'T A NEW MEXICO PROCECUTOR WHO CAN INDICT A HAM SANDWICH!
FOOL!
THERE....FIXED IT FOR YOUR PROG COMMIE ASS!"

^^^^^I bolded that last part for your prog commie ass as well.

LMAO



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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/26/2021 at 04:28 AM by Fish Killer

Still manic and butthurt, I see.


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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

Where Baldwin can get in trouble is on the producing end. He was one of the producers of the film. If he is linked to the cutting corners and the friction with the crews that are in charge of this, and hiring of the replacement crew which led up to this, he can very well be charged with something.

Yeah criminal and civil negligence isn't going to come from the firing of the gun but the process through which that faulty prop ended up on set.

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We have a winner.

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Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system.

In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer".

No, I've just worked in the film and video industry for over 25 years now. You have no idea what you are talking about.

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU DO...YOU SURE AS FUCK ARENT A LAWYER AND YOU SURE AS FUCK ARENT A CALIFORNIA LAWYER!

AND HELL NO YOU AREN'T A CALIFORNIA PROCECUTOR WHO CAN INDICT A HAM SANDWICH!

STFU!

(CRAPDigital: "I have made 3 video's and had two photo shoots in Florida but I KNOW CALIFORNIA LAW THE SAME AS ANY CALIFORNIA PROCECUTOR! I also stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!)

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU KNOW NOTHING POS!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:44 PM by Fish Killer

LOL I don't do photography. Oh, I stay at Marriot/Sheraton and Hilton hotels. LOL

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 04:41 PM by HAPDigital

Thats NOT what that piece of shit childish website of yours states.

LIAR!

...and I quote: "Aerial Photography"

Fool!

(...and looking at 'Little Italy" i would venture a guess that Motel 6 is more your style...moron.)

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 07:16 PM by Fish Killer

I still don't do photography. Never have, never will. I know what that site says. I know what services are offered. I also know what I personally do and what is source out. Lol moron. You are wrong again.

I guarantee my home is worth more than yours.


Edited: 10/25/2021 at 07:48 PM by HAPDigital

Which one...idiot?

And your still a liar as Ive seen your aerial photography....again on your childish website years ago.

Funny how you literally just went and changed 'aerial photography' to 'aerial videography' ....LMAO!

Do you ever stop lying?



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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:44 PM by Fish Killer

I know one thing, you are always wrong.

...says the known forum pathological liar.

I know one thing, you are always a liar.

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 07:17 PM by Fish Killer

You are wrong again. As usual...

Liar!

Better go change this as well:

"Studio and field still photography"

I took a screen shot first so your lying ass couldn't pull your hourly bullshit.

MORON!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:43 PM by Fish Killer

You're an idiot. I do not do photography. Are you that dumb?

Play all the wordsmithing games you want to Michael.

In a court of LAW they will ask you one question...did you get paid for the work preformed?

Who was the check written out to?

At that moment you will know that in fact you are a liar.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:43 PM by Fish Killer

I know what that site says. However, I do not do photography. Never have never will. It's called contracting out. Moron

Check was paid out to the photographer they sub. I don't deal with photography only add it as a side if requested. You know nothing about me or how I operate. You're such a dumb fuck.

"It's called contracting out."

Contracting out in no way means that they get their own photographer...you are sooooo fucking stupid.

"Aerial Photography" on one page and "Studio and field still photography" on another.

Thats THREE (3) different types of photography that YOU offer!

What a pathological liar you are!

How do you live with yourself?!?!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:43 PM by Fish Killer

Actually no checks were paid out. Never had a request for photos. Lol

Offer and do are two different things. You moron. I do not do photography, never have never will.

Play all the wordsmithing games you want to Michael.

In a court of LAW they will ask you one question...did you get paid for the work preformed?

Who was the check written out to?

At that moment you will know that in fact you are a liar.

"Aerial Photography" on one page and "Studio and field still photography" on another.

Thats THREE (3) different types of photography that YOU offer!

What a pathological liar you are!

How do you live with yourself?!?!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:43 PM by Fish Killer

You said I had two photo shoots. I never had a photo shoot. LOL

Yo...SHITFORBRAINS.....that was a hypothetical statement to drive home the FACT THAT YOU ARENT A FUCKING LAWYER!

WOW!

WHAR A FUCKING MORON YOU ACTUALLY ARE!

(CRAPDigital: "I have made 3 video's and had two photo shoots in Florida but I KNOW CALIFORNIA LAW THE SAME AS ANY CALIFORNIA PROCECUTOR! I also stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!)


YOU DIDN'T STAY IN A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS LAST NIGHT EITHER!

FOOL!

YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:42 PM by Fish Killer

What a liar you are. I don't do photography. You can swear up and down, read all kinds of websites etc but the fact is I do not do photography. So the fact is you are a liar.

More importantly. You are wrong. And all this derailing the thread bullshit to cover up your stupidity doesn't work. Everyone sees it for what it is, DUMB.

Yo...SHITFORBRAINS.....that was a hypothetical statement to drive home the FACT THAT YOU ARENT A FUCKING LAWYER!

WOW!

WHAT A FUCKING MORON YOU ACTUALLY ARE!

(CRAPDigital: "I have made 3 video's and had two photo shoots in Florida but I KNOW CALIFORNIA LAW THE SAME AS ANY CALIFORNIA PROCECUTOR! I also stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!)


YOU DIDN'T STAY IN A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS LAST NIGHT EITHER!

FOOL!

YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:42 PM by Fish Killer

I don't pay for hotels. The clients do. LOLOL moron.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

If you make a client pay for a hotel (separately) you wont be getting the job you STUPID FUCK!

How unprofessional can one get?!?!

A PROFESSIONAL company presents one CONTRACT for projected services (with itemization of individual services and costs).

A PROFESSIONAL company presents one bill for ALL SERVICES RENDERED (with a break-down if required)!

WHAT A FUCKING FREAK YOU ARE!

(One other thing...I clearly said that you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express....i most assuredly didn't say that the contract didn't cover the hotel bill. You are now sounding like COLESLAW! GO BACK TO FUCKING 3RD GRADE AND LEARN HOW TO READ!)

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:42 PM by Fish Killer

You moron, clients pay and reserve hotels for me all the time LOL. Like I said, you have no clue how my industry works.

I dont need to know anything about your business...not a tiny little bit.

Go take a course in writing a basic contract.

You are one of the most unprofessional people I have ever seen or heard of.

Your actions dont surprise me.

Thats why you dont have any jobs.

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:42 PM by Fish Killer

LOL even funnier. Some of my clients have travel departments and they book not only my hotel but flights, rental cars and everything. LOL

yeah...keep up the lies like you are some kind of big shot with all kinds of buisiness.

The facts are that ALL of your examples on your site are old and if you do one or two jobs a year that pay any money at all...that would be a lot.

Bet your wife pays most of your bills......because from looking at your website for the last decade...it hasn't changed much.

My bet is that you make as much with that rag tag patchwork POS business as Coleslaw makes selling people lures!

You think everyone is stupid Michael...they arent.

Neither am I.

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:41 PM by Fish Killer

LOL that site is abandoned. My work is not generated from a website. I don't bother with it. I'm agency driven and word of mouth. LOL Dude, keep trying to put me down all you want but you have no clue about anything. You're 100% wrong as usual.

Well you in fact are a known pathological liar......

That speaks volumes.

Obviously that site isn't abandoned as you claim because you sure changed that 'aerial photography' to 'aerial videography' awfully fucking fast!

You dont lie really well either Michael...you get caught all the time.

Thats because your an idiot.

I dont give a fuck how you get your business...all BIG companies (and really anyone today) want a prospective company (that they are considering hiring) to have an internet presence so that they can go out and look to see who you are and what you do...without having to picture your verbal bullshit in their minds.

Anyone claiming today that a videography business is successful without fresh examples of what they do readily available...is AGAIN...A FUCKING LIAR!

Oh wait...we all know that you are a professional liar...because you exhibit that ability of yours right on this forum every day!

You also do know that any potential clients can google your business name and your real name and ALL of your lies and bullshit ON THIS FORUM shows right up in their face...right?

I just did exactly that and holy crap your shit just shows right up!

What a serious fool you actually are...and make no mistake Michael...you really really are STUPID!





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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:41 PM by Fish Killer

Oh, and BTW, you are one dumb motherfucker. The dumbest I've seen in my life.

How can one change a website if they do not have ability to change it? I don't manage that site, it is defunct. You are the only one lying here.

Your nose is growing longer, Michael.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:41 PM by Fish Killer

LOL never had one single client say hey, what's up with 2ndlight? LOLOLOLOL Again, you do not know how and where I get work and what methods I use beyond an internet presence which I do not need at all. The internet does not drive my business no matter how much you think it does. I don't take random calls. All my work is sourced out via agencies. You also have no clue what kind of clients I deal with.

Do you think a potential client is actually going to ask you anything at all?

FUCK NO!

You just dont get the job!

MORON!

If I were thinking of hiring you and I found what is out there on you (and literally ANYONE can in less than 30 seconds)....you wouldn't hear shit from me.....I just wouldn't hire you and I would find someone else that doesn't have your 'baggage'.

I certainly wouldn't be hiring someone that has been caught is as many provable lies as you have just on this forum!

You do realize that you 'play' with the lies you get caught in...BUT in reality everyone knows your lies....because they see them...literally every day on here!

You think it's no big deal....LMAO!

A prospective client wants NOTHING TO DO WITH A FUCKING LIAR!

FACT!

IT SHOWS YOUR CHARACTER!

Wake up fool...the internet is the easiest way to find out anything you want to find out.....

And you are seriously busted by any prospective client....right here on old NSR.

You are a fool of the highest order!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:41 PM by Fish Killer

100% clueless and a liar. You know the wayback machine proves you wrong. LOL Such a moron.

You and Coleslaw have tried that lie 20 times each so far and all you have is total 100% failure.

Not one single time has any of your 'Wayback' crap produced even one item of the bullshit that you have claimed!

NOT ONCE!

So you go on with that lie...and believe your lie...because that what you do!

Once you admit that you have a serious problem with lying at least you know what the problem is.

Then the problem is 1/2 solved....but then comes the hard part...you have to change,

For you...thats not happening...ohhh...fuck no!

You lie just to lie...no rhyme or reason...you are a liars liar!

Thats a pathological liar.

You have a serious problem, Michael....and hell yes it directly affects your business.

And If you think everyone doesn't know how little business you actually have well then just ask them if they know how many hours you spend on this forum a day!

If you were an actual successful videography business you wouldn't have 5 seconds to rub together on this forum!

FACT!

I'm retired Michael...I have whatever time I like to do as I please...

You, on the other hand, claim to run a big successful videography business!

We all know thats grade 'A' bullshit!

People arent stupid Michael....you are!

Like I said before...your wife probably pays most of the bills.

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:40 PM by Fish Killer

"Prospective" LOL I do not take new clients unsolicited. I have agencies. Who do you think pays me? The clients? LOL

I work at a desk. Lol

The desk has a computer with internet. Lol I can multitask in a quick blip on a forum. Lolol

You keep telling yourself that lie, Michael.

If you tell that lie to yourself 5 times because of your problem (pathological lying) you actually believe your own bullshit.

You are on here all day...and most of the night.....

How do I know?

You know how I know!

You don't have shit for a business....and thats a fact!

Funny thing is everyone here knows it.

You are the only one living in your bullshit lie.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:40 PM by Fish Killer

I'm up working late tonight. Lol trying g expedite this project. Hahaha

You don't know shit about anything. This site is a giant archive of your conspiracy theories, lies, speculation and lunacy. You're a total nut job. Complete wacko. Everyone knows that.... guaranteed.

You keep telling yourself that lie, Michael.

You know it's a lie and I know it's a lie.

I've been on this planet 62 years and I've been retired since I was 50.

I have met and dealt with 100 liars just like yourself in my lifetime!

You aren't anything special...you are a run of the mill agenda driven pathological liar.

What trashes you EVERY time is the plain old simple truth.

Everyone pretty much knows what plain and simple truth is...except you!

Thats why you stand out...because you literally state shit like black is white...wrong is right...and the sun rises in the west.

Stuff that is so obviously BULLSHIT that there isn't ANYBODY that can't see it!

You are an epic fool Michael.

Maybe one of these days you will wake up...but hell no...I seriously doubt it!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:40 PM by Fish Killer

Thanks for confirming this site can hurt my business. It's what my lawyer was looking for on that defamation case. Have a great night..

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Bring it on BIG boy!

Keep posting on here...the only one hurting your business is you!

I made that absolutely perfectly clear above^^^^!

I told the truth!

There are probably 400 recent posts with a provable lie from you!

God only knows how many provable lies you have spouted on this forum since the day you arrived!

You are the only one lying your ass off on here (which is whats hurting your business) and you are actually here with the name you chose....of your own free will.

Nobody forced you to have your alias....

Nobody forces you to log on with your alias.

And nobody forces you to lie on this forum with your alias.

You are your own worst problem.

You are your own worst enemy.

There are 15 posts above PROVING IT^^^^^^.

LMAO

FOOL!

I am to assume NOW that your lawyer will be suing YOU for defamation of your own business!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Typical POS prog commie pathological liar...always trying to blame someone else for what they are totally and thoroughly responsible for. I'm literally laughing my ass off! Seriously!@)

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/26/2021 at 12:53 AM by Fish Killer

Well, this is a gift that keeps on giving.

Don Jr. ("sentient pond scum") is selling tee shirts to grift this tragedy

http://www.vanityfair.com/news...lec-baldwin-tee-shirt

Karma for Baldwin after he went on a tirade when he asked a Police officer how it "felt" to kill an innocent in an accidental shooting!

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I imagine a Trumper set him up for just that reason.



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I was right.

There is already evidence building up to that. Only sheep would think otherwise. Right?