Vaccines should not be mandated, but those who refuse vaccination have a responsibility to isolate themselves to protect others.

He's catching hell on the Twitter, but I think he's essentially correct in an anarchist sense. No one should be forced, however, it's completely appropriate for the community such as it is to require such a thing as a condition of participation in order to protect the collective population.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Back from a week of travel and I see we're still beating the same ol drum, huh Rusty?

So the vaccinated are also scared of negative tests and natural immunities?

Any requirements for number of booster shots, too?

And once again, please explain to me the logic of being vaccinated, but still scared of those that aren't.....

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 10:01 AM by OBX

Chomsky's comments were trending today, so...

If you've got a problem with it, you'll be in agreement with most of left wing twitter.

My position has been pretty consistent, I support the right to not get vaccinated, you just aren't welcome at my home or workplace. Proof of vaccination required.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Must have papers, huh Rusty?

Have you decided on a requirement for number of booster shots required, too?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

In order to get into the "Fox Patriot Awards" you need to show either a vaccine card or a negative test within the previous 72 hours at the mandatory check point. And that's in Floriduh even.

http://try.nation.foxnews.com/patriot-awards/

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Notice the allowance of a negative test? That's the big difference. Cool story, though.

Speaking of Floriduh, how are we currently staking up to the rest of the nation? Specifically the states/cities that are still masked up and somewhat locked down?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Glad you liked the story. A required negative 72 hr. test result isn't considered "papers"? Go figure.

As for Floriduh - Florida suffered the most deaths overall and per-capita during the summer surge. 738 here in Brevard. Probably helped clean out the shallow end of the gene pool, though.




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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 10/25/2021 at 12:29 PM by RustyTruck

People bucking the governor on safety protocols helped dampen the surge. Wonder how Thanksgiving - Christmas will work out? Masks are coming off again.

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still a few hold outs in NSRville

T'is nice being on the higher end of the gene pool. Said it from the get go that I had nothing to worry about. The shallow end was sure nervous, weren't they? Guess they had reason, huh?

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I :heart; Q

Agree fully with Chomsky's take - as usual.. Notice how little you see him ony any mainstream media.. 'Democracy Now' is one of the few that you see him on - and they are def not 'mainstream'...

When someones 'freedoms', and irresponsibility. infringe literally or threaten someones life, their 'right' to 'freedom' comes to an end.. That's why we have 'laws' against drunk or reckless driving etc etc etc.. It's called 'civilized society'..

Ever see Chomsky on CNN, MSNBC etc - once I think... ? faux, aon - Don't hold your breath..

Yep tpap, lot's in the shallow end of the pool paid the ultimate price with their stupidity not to get the jab,,

Choices choices - or maybe no more .............

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There are NO white people at all in the Bible... take all the time you need with that...
Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

Just a friendly reminder this disease has over a 98.5% survival rate, even more so if you're under 65. And....the beauty is....if you don't want to take that chance you can get vaccinated to protect yourself.

Which makes me pose the question....again.....why are you scared of the unvaxed if you are vaccinated yourself?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

I love how you dotards completely ignore the long term complications. You are a fucking moron...


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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Is Greensleeves your alternate handle? You both seem to espouse such intelligent, thought provoking responses. Either you're the same person, or live in the same bubble.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

I'm going to get a booster, just haven't decided if I should go with more Moderna, or mix it up with a shot of Pfizer.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

That stupid question, again... ?

Yep, the one that no one answers with any semblance of logic. Here, I'll lay it out for you again

I rather not take the 1.5% chance of death with Covid, so I will get vaccinated to protect myself

OK, fair enough.
Logic breaks down the second you start assuming, blaming, or being fearful for your own protection if other people are not vaccinated. Why? Because following the logic, that means you're afraid the vaccine doesn't work.

Which brings us full circle again of you snarking at people for not taking a vaccine that according to your logic, as evident by your fears, doesn't work anyways.


So again, tell me why if your are vaccinated, you are fearful of the ones that aren't? Using Florida as an example, where we were open and free, did the hospitals ever get fully overwhelmed? Did those ice trucks actually get filled with all these dead bodies from Covid? Did we run out of water like Scom was so fearful of? Or was that all media driven propaganda induced fear? Looking at our numbers now, it seems that its run its course and our numbers are now one of the best in the country. So again, where is all this fear, angst, and prejudice against the unvaccinated coming from? I know the answer.....but don't think you're willing to admit it....

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 10/26/2021 at 06:10 AM by OBX

The vaccine doesn't work for people with weak immune systems. Why are you happy to increase their risk so much? Like the FL surgeon general that refused to wear a mask in a meeting with a legislator being treated for cancer? Why do you think that is okay? Yes. Several did. Our local Parrish medical was on the radio almost every day for a month pleading with people to get vaccinated, wear masks, distance, etc... because they were full. People that needed medical care other than covid were getting triaged out. The hospital down here in Palm Bay had to set up tents outside. etc... Several facilities around central Florida did in fact run out of freezer space and had to store bodies in refrigerated trucks. That's a dumb strawman of the actual case. OUC uses liquid oxygen to purify drinking water and they were indeed short on supply so they had folks in their service area reduce use. I never once expressed any "fear" that we would "run out of water". It was a real case. Of course you think that it was all fake and OUC was faking the whole thing with its daily public service announcements about it across a bunch of different media platforms. If the media was faking the press releases from OUC, why did OUC not speak up about it? Was OUC in on the plot? How about the CEO of Parrish medical here in Brevard? Was he getting paid off to lie about conditions in his facilities?

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Edited: 10/27/2021 at 06:57 AM by scombrid

The media? They came directly from OUC.

The Orlando Utilities Commission is echoing a call they gave two weeks ago asking residents to conserve water due to a liquid oxygen shortage. On Aug., OUC said it was seeing a short supply of liquid oxygen coming in, used to treat the city's drinking water.Sep 3, 2021

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I was right.

I think everyone has decided they've spent enough time and effort trying to help you understand how this works. You don't seem to be capable of anything more complex than binary understanding.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Show me where this question has been answered, Rusty. Answered without holes in the logic being presented.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

'Hey guys, drunk driving only kills .0005% of people, why do we have DD laws?' Sincerely OBX and the rest of the fucking idiots in this country...

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Such a stupid, non-sequitur analogy. But, I'll play.

Top 3 causes of preventable deaths in the USA: 1. Tobacco 2. poor diet and inactivity 3. alchohol

If we're being "pure" with your analogy, and the government truly cares about your health and safety, do you support making alcohol or tobacco illegal? How about a "fat tax?"

Or....given there is also a small chance you'll die from a drunk driver, does that mean you don't drive at all? Do you also share such distain for those who don't wear seatbelts as you do for those who aren't vaxxed?

Or,.... are you admitting that the vaccine won't prevent you from getting injured/killed by COVID anymore than the seatbelts or laws will prevent you from getting injured/killed by a drunk driver?

I think its best you let the big boys debate, and save the childish attempt and insults for greenie and his squealing dolphins.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Those who choose to not get vaccinated are transmiting it easier than those with a vacc,

=> an increase in speading the cove

=> more chance that a more vacc resistaant variant will develop

Also seems to be a high overlap / co-relation with more deadly anti vacc types and anti-mask types.. All under the guise of their personal 'freedom'..

All the while ignoring the 'freedoms' of others to live healthy lives - including those that they do NOT directly interact with.. Is it always about 'you' only? Fuck everybody else?

Whats up with that?

Seems like we also have a 'no smoking' laws for enclosed public places. ? Good? Bad? thing?

Whats up with that? Hmmm

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There are NO white people at all in the Bible... take all the time you need with that...
Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

Edited: 10/28/2021 at 04:15 PM by surfsail

blah blah blah

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

It's a simple shot.

These are required for Florida schools, can you tell me what's in them?

Hepatitis B (Hep B)
2 months Diphtheria-Tetanus-acellular
Pertussis (DTaP), Hep B,

Haemophilus influenzae
type b (Hib), Polio (IPV),

Pneumococcal Conjugate

(PCV13), Rotavirus

4 months DTaP, Hib, IPV, PCV13, Rotavirus

6 months DTaP, Hep B, Hib, IPV,
PCV13, Rotavirus, Influenza

12-15 months Measles-Mumps-Rubella
(MMR), PCV13, Hib, Varicella

15-18 months DTaP
Hepatitis A (Hep A)
2 doses 6 months apart

4-6 years DTaP, IPV, MMR, Varicella, Flu
11-18 years Human Papillomavirus (HPV)

2 or 3-dose series; can be

given as early as 9 years of

age. Age 14 and under should

receive the 2-dose series

separated by 6 - 12 months.

Age 15 and over should

receive the 3-dose series. The

second and third doses should

be given two and six months

(respectively) after the first

dose. Meningococcal (MCV4)

with a booster dose at age 16.

Tetanus-diphtheria-acellular

pertussis (Tdap), Influenza


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I was right.

OBX by a furlong. Cole is still the dumbest guy on 2ndlight. Fish killer is not a real person. Play ball!

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Ring...BOOM...snow. -Hatrick Penry

Coleslaw is by far the dumbest person on 2nd light.

Correct observation.

Thats why he is also called IQ66.

CRAPDigital is running a close 2nd.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/26/2021 at 08:52 PM by Fish Killer

Fish Killer is the Grand Champion of Dumb, 15 years running strong. Also, nobody can come close to his 54K posts of physcopathic rage, babble and lies.

Also, type in Fish Killer in the topic section of the advanced search. You get 3 entire pages full of forum members complaining about him, calling for the mods to ban him etc etc. I've never seen anything like it on any site anywhere. That's an award right there too, for FK and the mods/site owner. They harbor the asshole. LOL

q]Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Coleslaw is by far the dumbest person on 2nd light.

Correct observation.

Thats why he is also called IQ66.

CRAPDigital is running a close 2nd.

What's in the vaccines?

If you are so smart, you'll have no problem telling me. lol

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I was right.