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RustyTruck

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Merriam-Webster's Word of the Year 2021!

Get those boosters boys, if you're smart.

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It makes no sense to get a vaccine anymore. It doesn't protect you from getting the disease and has some serious side effects. It can reduce the symtoms, but so do the antibody treatments, which don't have the side effects.

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Bullshit. IV infusion is way more expensive and risky than the vaccine.

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Originally posted by: scombrid Bullshit. IV infusion is way more expensive and risky than the vaccine.
Not more risky. Pure BS. So what if it is more expensive? I can afford it. They don't usually give it by IV infusion anymore. Four shots does the trick.

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 11/29/2021 03:01 PM
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Fine. Let people pay for it themselves and let insurance companies decide what they are willing to cover. And the antibody treatments are more risky than vaccines.

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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Fine. Let people pay for it themselves and let insurance companies decide what they are willing to cover. And the antibody treatments are more risky than vaccines.



All you do is lie.

Why?

Monoclonal antibody therapy can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.
In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.
For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

Monoclonal antibody treatments can be prescribed by health care providers to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 and are at high risk for severe illness and hospitalization.

However, to support Governor DeSantis' initiative, there is currently a standing order in Florida signed by the State Surgeon General that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by an eligible health care provider. Such referrals are not required at any of the State of Florida monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients.

The antibodies help the immune system recognize and respond effectively to the virus. According to the treatment guidelines, they should be administered as soon as possible after diagnosis. By providing access to these treatments at these new sites, Governor DeSantis is alleviating demand on hospital resources and further making sure that Floridians have access to all potential treatments that can help them recover from COVID-19.


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Originally posted by: scombrid

Bullshit. IV infusion is way more expensive and risky than the vaccine.


It's safe and very effective, both cost the pt nothing so who cares.

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The vaccine is safe and highly effective. Might even protect against omicron variant, we don't know yet. Buy the ticket, take the ride.


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 11/29/2021 04:13 PM
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Think Tpapschmears would have gotten the polio vaccine or call it a hoax?
 11/29/2021 05:23 PM
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The FK'er forgot an important aspect of this...They want to charge your insurance if you have insurance.

From the Florida webpage: https://floridahealthcovid19.g...onal-antibody-therapy/

"There is no cost for monoclonal antibody treatment. No one will be denied services due to inability to pay for administrative cost at State of Florida sites. However, insurance can be billed if available.

No cost to patients does not equal free.
Our Taxes and insurance are paying for this.
I know someone who did this at Kiwanis Island and they charged their insurance for at least some of the cost, they didn't realize their insurance would get a bill.

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Originally posted by: Bamboo

The FK'er forgot an important aspect of this...They want to charge your insurance if you have insurance.



From the Florida webpage: https://floridahealthcovid19.g...onal-antibody-therapy/



"There is no cost for monoclonal antibody treatment. No one will be denied services due to inability to pay for administrative cost at State of Florida sites. However, insurance can be billed if available.



No cost to patients does not equal free.

Our Taxes and insurance are paying for this.

I know someone who did this at Kiwanis Island and they charged their insurance for at least some of the cost, they didn't realize their insurance would get a bill.


Soooooooo....dipshit.

Who exactly is paying for all of these 'FREE' vaccines that you got jabbed into your arm?

DOH!

Shoot yourself in the foot much?

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 11/29/2021 05:35 PM
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One other thing.....the monoclonal treatment can save your like AFTER contracting covid......

Once you get covid the vaccines arent doing shit for you!

FACT!

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You are the jackass saying this stuff is free, i have never said or implied that.



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Originally posted by: Bamboo

You are the jackass saying this stuff is free, i have never said or implied that.


It was SARCASM...you stupid fuck!

You were trying to state that somebody had to pay for the monoclonal antibodies shots.....WELLLLL...fuckwad...those vaccines are paid for by us the taxpayer also!

NOTHING IS FOR FREE!

FOOL!

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Deny the FDA approved vaccine for the experimental antibody treatment.

Yep, that sound like a typical Republican response.

There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not.

Monoclonal antibodies are man-made proteins that act like human antibodies in the immune system. There are 4 different ways they can be made and are named based on what they are made of.

Murine: These are made from mouse proteins and the names of the treatments end in -omab.
Chimeric: These proteins are a combination of part mouse and part human and the names of the treatments end in -ximab.
Humanized: These are made from small parts of mouse proteins attached to human proteins and the names of the treatments end in -zumab
Human: These are fully human proteins and the names of the treatments end in -umab.



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Plus the cost is about $3-5k for the monoclonal antibody treatment, vs. <$20 for the vaccine.



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Originally posted by: Bamboo Plus the cost is about $3-5k for the monoclonal antibody treatment, vs. <$20 for the vaccine.
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Over 90% of new patients being admitted into hospital for covid are unvaccinated.


So, if you are a repub., Please don't get vaccinated.
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anti vaccinated sperm will be the new bitcoin LOL

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"Our taxes are paying for it", our govt just signed off on trillions, vax and mono treatments combined are a mere drop in the bucket as our govt seems to have an endless supply of money to spend.

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"Our taxes are paying for it", our govt just signed off on trillions, vax and mono treatments combined are a mere drop in the bucket as our govt seems to have an endless supply of money to spend.

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"Vaccine" : trigger warning for every Trumpster clown.
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All the silly chumpfscum agitprop nonsense against vaccines, still on the endless search for the "miracle cure" their fat orange carnival barker messiah swore was imminent.
The funniest part is that the same folks who developed the new crispr inspired mRNA vaccines (in fucking record time, folks) are now marketing pills.....yep, pills: that do the same thing duhsantis kerfuffle infusion does......

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Most guys piss in a urinal, some sit down on golden toilets to pee. To each his own.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Most guys piss in a urinal, some sit down on golden toilets to pee. To each his own.
I am a stander. But when I must sit, I prefer wood. Puts me in a forestry frame of mind.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo
I prefer wood.


Yes, we already know that.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Most guys piss in a urinal, some sit down on golden toilets to pee. To each his own.


I am a stander. But when I must sit, I prefer wood. Puts me in a forestry frame of mind.


Look at the little liar trying to act like a normal person. How sweet!



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Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: tpapablo



Originally posted by: RustyTruck



Most guys piss in a urinal, some sit down on golden toilets to pee. To each his own.




I am a stander. But when I must sit, I prefer wood. Puts me in a forestry frame of mind.




Look at the little liar trying to act like a normal person. How sweet!


Thats rich...coming from the forum KING of liars.



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Guy who talks to dead people says what? LOLZ!

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Originally posted by: Cole

Guy who talks to dead people says what? LOLZ!


LOLZ!!!!

SOOOOO....LET'S RE-CAP! :

1) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane.

2) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use a downrigger (ball).

3) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is.

4) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar.

5) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers)

6) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds.

7) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures.

8) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them).

9) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!

10) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!.


Well I'm sure thats not all of it but I will add more as my brain remembers it....


COLESLAW....THE FUCKING G-O-O-G-A-N POS KNOW-NOTHING WANNABE WEEKEND WARRIOR FISHERMAN!

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FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone. Even if he wasn't ranting, raving, and constantly vomiting up conspiracy and far right, extremist, propaganda THAT would be all you need to know about him. Straight up fucking nutjob, who is one loose screw away from committing a mass shooting.

Be warned, if you see an armed, obese pig of a man approaching your business or event on a hover around flying a Trump/DeSantis 2024 flag, make sure you slowly and calmly walk away in the opposite direction. You just need to keep pace with his lard wagon.
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.
Wait, what?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.


Wait, what?


Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Lying liars lie.





Did you or did you not say you talked with a dead man?





Nope!



I said I called.



I asked for Bart.



The phone was put down for a bit....then someone got on and asked me what I needed.



At that time I assumed it was Bart....because the guy never said any different.



I did tell him about you...and he did laugh his ass off!



Soooo...MORON....eat shit and die!



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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.


Wait, what?


Yup. He claimed to have spoken to a dead guy on the phone.
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Originally posted by: RiddleMe

Originally posted by: scombrid



Originally posted by: RiddleMe



FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.




Wait, what?




Yup. He claimed to have spoken to a dead guy on the phone.

Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.


Wait, what?


Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Lying liars lie.





Did you or did you not say you talked with a dead man?





Nope!



I said I called.



I asked for Bart.



The phone was put down for a bit....then someone got on and asked me what I needed.



At that time I assumed it was Bart....because the guy never said any different.



I did tell him about you...and he did laugh his ass off!



Soooo...MORON....eat shit and die!




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 12/02/2021 03:57 AM
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Yea but you gotta admit the fat fucking piece of shit traitor knows his BRIM

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Originally posted by: RiddleMe
FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone. Even if he wasn't ranting, raving, and constantly vomiting up conspiracy and far right, extremist, propaganda THAT would be all you need to know about him. Straight up fucking nutjob, who is one loose screw away from committing a mass shooting.

Be warned, if you see an armed, obese pig of a man approaching your business or event on a hover around flying a Trump/DeSantis 2024 flag, make sure you slowly and calmly walk away in the opposite direction. You just need to keep pace with his lard wagon.


I love when FK makes my point about him being fucking crazy for me. Keep cutting and pasting your frothing rant from an entirely different topic fakefisherman.


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Originally posted by: Cole

Guy who talks to dead people says what? LOLZ!


LOLZ!!!!

SOOOOO....LET'S RE-CAP! :

1) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane.

2) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use a downrigger (ball).

3) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is.

4) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar.

5) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers)

6) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds.

7) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures.

8) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them).

9) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!

10) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!.


Well I'm sure thats not all of it but I will add more as my brain remembers it....


COLESLAW....THE FUCKING G-O-O-G-A-N POS KNOW-NOTHING WANNABE WEEKEND WARRIOR FISHERMAN!

FACT!

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Not a "vaccine" by any standard or measure. COVID19 shot is a therapeutic.

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tRump was single-handedly the biggest Covid superspreader in the world. And he infected people on purpose. What a filthy, disgusting, evil , piece of shit.

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Originally posted by: jdbman

tRump was single-handedly the biggest Covid superspreader in the world. And he infected people on purpose. What a filthy, disgusting, evil , piece of shit.


Naaaaa....that is by FAR a Biden thing now!

Biden has a wide OPEN southern boarder and allows literally ANYONE in....just walk across anywhere you like!

ASSHOLE!

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Originally posted by: Cole

I've already shown a #32 goes deeper than 100 feet. Are you drinking again?


LIAR!

YOU SHOWED A FAKE POST FROM A COMPANY THAT HASN'T BEEN IN BUISINESS FOR OVER A DECADE!


THE REASON THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS IS BECAUSE THEY LIED! (JUST LIKE YOU DO!)
BACK A DECADE AGO WE HAD NO WAY OF PROVING HOW DEEP ANYTHING WOULD GO WHEN TROLLED SO THEY JUST MADE UP SHIT...TILL THEY GOT CAUGHT!
NOW EVERYONE KNOWS HOW DEEP DOWN-PLANERS ACTUALLY GO....FOOL!
REMEMBER, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I TOLD YOU I HAVE AND USE A 'FISH HAWK'...
BETTER GO AND FIND OUT WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS...YOU STUPID POS GOOGAN!



http://fishhawkelectronics.com...hawk-td/fish-hawk-td/



That #32 planer isn't going beyond 50 feet you fucking IDIOT!

THE PROFESSIONALS AT SALTWATER SPORTSMAN ALREADY FUCKED YOU ON THAT LIE!

THAT PROOF WAS ALREADY POSTED AS WELL AND IS POSTED AGAIN BELOW FOR THE PLEASURE OF THROWING IT IN YOUR FACE!

WOW...COLESLAW RE-HASHING HIS FAILURES ONE BY ONE!

GOT ANY MORE YOU WANT THROWN BACK IN YOUR FACE?!?!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

COLESLAW DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOT DOWN-PLANES AS FUCK NO...HE HAS NEVER USED ONE!

FACT!


"How to Fish Planers for Trolling
There are numerous ways to place a bait in the water column, such as wire line, trolling sinkers, downriggers and planers. Each offers advantages for particular species. Over the years, I've favored the high-speed planer as an effective and efficient tool for offshore trolling. It's simple to use, enables a bait to be placed between 20 and 50 feet down, and is light-tackle friendly. It works over a wide range of trolling speeds, from slow-trolling with natural baits to pulling artificials up to 15 mph."

Compared with a downrigger - where an accurate depth can be dialed in - one must estimate the depth of the bait with a fishing planer. Deployed, the planer line trolls at an approximate 45-degree angle. Now, here's the tricky math: For every 2 feet of planer line deployed, the planer goes down 1 foot. So, with 50 feet of line out, expect the planer to ride 25 feet down. However, much beyond that, this formula doesn't hold true and, in fact, can reverse itself. To position the planer 50 feet down, for example, might require 150 feet of line."

LINK HERE:
http://www.saltwatersportsman....aners-catch-more-fish/

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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I've already shown a #32 goes deeper than 100 feet.

ALREADY PROVED A LIE! ^^^ABOVE.

doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane. - countless times

LIAR! YOUR EXTREME LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND USE DIFINITIVELY PROVES THAT FUCK NO YOU HAVE NEVER DEPLOYED ONE!

doesn't use a downrigger (ball). - countless times

LIAR! YOUR EXTREME LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND USE DIFINITIVELY PROVES THAT FUCK NO YOU HAVE NEVER DEPLOYED ONE!

doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is. - it's an expensive planer

YOU PROVED THAT YOU LITERALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT A Z-WING AND HOW IT WORKS. YOU HAVE STATED THAT IT WORKS THE SAME AS A POS DOWN-PLANER WHEN IN FACT IT LITERALLY HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH ANY DOWN-PLANE AS IT LITERALLY PREFORMS ON COMPLETLY DIFFERENT PHYSICS PRINCIPLES.....THUS ABOSLUTLY PROVING THAT YOU LIED!

doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar. - I know enough to know that you aren't going to find shit with it in the open Atlantic, unless you've seen weeds or surface feeding fish. lol

YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF FURUNO'S DFF3D MULTI-BEAM SONAR UNTIL I LITERALLY TOLD YOU ABOUT IT! YOU POSTED A VIDEO THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD PROVE THAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF DOWN-PLANES WAS CORRECT WHEN IN FACT IT PROVED EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
YOUR VIDEO SHOWED THAT YOUR #6 DOWN-PLANE WAS GOOD TO 30 FUCKING FEET!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
THEN, TO TOP IT OFF, YOUR VIDEO ALSO PROVED THAT, YES, IN FACT YOU CAN GO OUT IN THE OPEN OCEAN AND TARGET A SPECIES OF FISH USING A SONAR....WITH NO STRUCTURE AT ALL....LITERALLY IN OPEN OCEAN! YOUR PAL IN YOUR VIDEO DID! WHAT A FUCKING MORON YOU ARE!
SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT LIKE THAT WAS FUCKING PRICELESS!


thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers) - Babble much?

YOU MADE A CLAIM THAT THE FURUNO DFF3D WAS SOOOO EXPENSIVE THAT NOBODY COULD AFFORD IT. - WRONG MUCH?

doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds. - Sea mounts. Oil rigs. Schools that have sounded after feeding on the surface. If you say you find them driving around in the summer heat you are a liar.

NOPE...NO LIAR HERE...I FIND PACKS OF TUNA ALL THE TIME DRIVING FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER...IN THE OPEN OCEAN...WITH NO STRUCTURE...FACT!
YOU ARENT CATCHING SHIT ON BAHAMA'S WALLS (IN THE SUMMER)...AREN'T FINDING SHIT UNLESS IT'S UNDER A PACK OF BIRDS!
THE ONLY 'SEA MOUNTS' ARE IN THE KEY'S AND THEY ARE FOR THE MOST PART ONLY FOR BLACKFIN TUNA, SKIPPIES AND MAHI...NOT YELLOWFIN! THEY DON'T CATCH YELLOWFIN THERE! BWAHAHAHAHAH!
YOU HAVE NEVER FISHED THE OIL RIGS AS YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.
IT'S WAY WAY OUT OF YOUR PRICE RANGE AS JUST THE GAS BILL WOULD KILL YOU!
WHAT A FUCKING FOOL YOU ARE COLESLAW!


only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures - Sea Witches. Ballyhoo. A few deep running plugs. The rest is money wasting noise.

THEN TELL US ALL EXACTLY WHY LITERALLY ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS USE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DONT USE?

dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them). - 100 feet means nothing.

OBVIOUSLTY IT DOES! FURUNO HAS SPENT MULTI-MILLIONS DEVELOPING IT...TELL US ALL EXACTLY WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT?!?!
FURTHERMORE LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SONAR MANUFACTURER HAS SPENT BILLIONS TO PERFECT SIDE-SCAN SONAR...FOR WHAT PURPOSE? (OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY COMPANY TO SUCEED SO FAR IS FURUNO)

"dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!" - I jigged, poppered and chunked many a tuna via the bottom machine, but that is coming to an end.

BWAHAHAHAH....UNTIL YOU USE WHAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY INVENTED TO ACTUALLY FIND TUNA....YOU WILL BE IGNORANT!
THATS RIGHT COLESLAW...BE IGNORANT...IT LOOKS GOOD ON YOU!


think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!. - Liars? No, but if they've never fished our tuna grounds, I most certainly know more than they do.

WHAT A STUPID MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE! THOSE ARTICLES WERE WRITTEN FROM PROFESSIONAL FISHERMEN THAT FISH RIGHT HERE ...ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BAHAMAS....EVERY SINGLE BIT OF WATER WE FISH!
EVER FISH THE 'CORNER'?....THOSE PEOPLE LIVE THERE! ONE OTHER THING...ARE YOU TRYING TO CLAIM THAT A DOWN-PLANE DOESN'T WORK EXACTLY THE SAME IN BAHAMIAN WATERS AS IT WOULD HERE OFF OF THE PORT OR SEBASTIAN INLET?
ARE YOU CLAIMING THAT A FURUNO DFF3D WONT WORK EXACTLY THE SAME HERE AS DOWN OFF THE MARATHON HUMP? WHAT A TRIPPLE FUCKING MORON YOU ARE...YOU FUCKING GOOGAN!

LIAR!

I am far better than you with less, how does that make you feel?

KEEP TELLING THAT TO YOURSELF THAT... OVER AND OVER ...TILL YOU BELIEVE YOUR OWN OBVIOUS BULLSHIT LIE.... YOU STUPID POS GOOGAN MATE!
WHEN YOU BUY A BOAT THAT CAN EVEN GO OFFSHORE..LET US ALL KNOW!
I ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUY ONE THAT WILL DO THE 'OTHERSIDE' (THATS WAY WAY WAY OUT OF YOUR WALLET). YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FOURTH CLASS MATE..AT BEST! WHATS FUNNY IS THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE A GOOD ONE...AS YOU AREN'T EVEN A COMPETENT ONE!

ONE OTHER THING...YOU AREN'T EVER DRIVING THE BOAT.

LMAO!


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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SOOOOO....LET'S RE-CAP! :

1) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane.

2) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use a downrigger (ball).

3) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is.

4) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar.

5) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers)

6) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds.

7) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures.

8) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them).

9) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!

10) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!.


Well I'm sure thats not all of it but I will add more as my brain remembers it....


COLESLAW....THE FUCKING G-O-O-G-A-N POS KNOW-NOTHING WANNABE WEEKEND WARRIOR FISHERMAN!

FACT!

-------------------------
The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 12/01/2021 10:19 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: RiddleMe

FK spoke to a dead guy on the phone.


Wait, what?


Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: Cole



Lying liars lie.





Did you or did you not say you talked with a dead man?





Nope!



I said I called.



I asked for Bart.



The phone was put down for a bit....then someone got on and asked me what I needed.



At that time I assumed it was Bart....because the guy never said any different.



I did tell him about you...and he did laugh his ass off!



Soooo...MORON....eat shit and die!


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Originally posted by: Cole

I've already shown a #32 goes deeper than 100 feet. Are you drinking again?


LIAR!

YOU SHOWED A FAKE POST FROM A COMPANY THAT HASN'T BEEN IN BUISINESS FOR OVER A DECADE!


THE REASON THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS IS BECAUSE THEY LIED! (JUST LIKE YOU DO!)
BACK A DECADE AGO WE HAD NO WAY OF PROVING HOW DEEP ANYTHING WOULD GO WHEN TROLLED SO THEY JUST MADE UP SHIT...TILL THEY GOT CAUGHT!
NOW EVERYONE KNOWS HOW DEEP DOWN-PLANERS ACTUALLY GO....FOOL!
REMEMBER, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I TOLD YOU I HAVE AND USE A 'FISH HAWK'...
BETTER GO AND FIND OUT WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS...YOU STUPID POS GOOGAN!



http://fishhawkelectronics.com...hawk-td/fish-hawk-td/



That #32 planer isn't going beyond 50 feet you fucking IDIOT!

THE PROFESSIONALS AT SALTWATER SPORTSMAN ALREADY FUCKED YOU ON THAT LIE!

THAT PROOF WAS ALREADY POSTED AS WELL AND IS POSTED AGAIN BELOW FOR THE PLEASURE OF THROWING IT IN YOUR FACE!

WOW...COLESLAW RE-HASHING HIS FAILURES ONE BY ONE!

GOT ANY MORE YOU WANT THROWN BACK IN YOUR FACE?!?!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

COLESLAW DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOT DOWN-PLANES AS FUCK NO...HE HAS NEVER USED ONE!

FACT!


"How to Fish Planers for Trolling
There are numerous ways to place a bait in the water column, such as wire line, trolling sinkers, downriggers and planers. Each offers advantages for particular species. Over the years, I've favored the high-speed planer as an effective and efficient tool for offshore trolling. It's simple to use, enables a bait to be placed between 20 and 50 feet down, and is light-tackle friendly. It works over a wide range of trolling speeds, from slow-trolling with natural baits to pulling artificials up to 15 mph."

Compared with a downrigger - where an accurate depth can be dialed in - one must estimate the depth of the bait with a fishing planer. Deployed, the planer line trolls at an approximate 45-degree angle. Now, here's the tricky math: For every 2 feet of planer line deployed, the planer goes down 1 foot. So, with 50 feet of line out, expect the planer to ride 25 feet down. However, much beyond that, this formula doesn't hold true and, in fact, can reverse itself. To position the planer 50 feet down, for example, might require 150 feet of line."

LINK HERE:
http://www.saltwatersportsman....aners-catch-more-fish/

-------------------------
The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 12/01/2021 10:21 AM
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Fish Killer

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I've already shown a #32 goes deeper than 100 feet.

ALREADY PROVED A LIE! ^^^ABOVE.

doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane. - countless times

LIAR! YOUR EXTREME LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND USE DIFINITIVELY PROVES THAT FUCK NO YOU HAVE NEVER DEPLOYED ONE!

doesn't use a downrigger (ball). - countless times

LIAR! YOUR EXTREME LACK OF KNOWLEDGE AND USE DIFINITIVELY PROVES THAT FUCK NO YOU HAVE NEVER DEPLOYED ONE!

doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is. - it's an expensive planer

YOU PROVED THAT YOU LITERALLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT A Z-WING AND HOW IT WORKS. YOU HAVE STATED THAT IT WORKS THE SAME AS A POS DOWN-PLANER WHEN IN FACT IT LITERALLY HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH ANY DOWN-PLANE AS IT LITERALLY PREFORMS ON COMPLETLY DIFFERENT PHYSICS PRINCIPLES.....THUS ABOSLUTLY PROVING THAT YOU LIED!

doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar. - I know enough to know that you aren't going to find shit with it in the open Atlantic, unless you've seen weeds or surface feeding fish. lol

YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF FURUNO'S DFF3D MULTI-BEAM SONAR UNTIL I LITERALLY TOLD YOU ABOUT IT! YOU POSTED A VIDEO THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD PROVE THAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF DOWN-PLANES WAS CORRECT WHEN IN FACT IT PROVED EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
YOUR VIDEO SHOWED THAT YOUR #6 DOWN-PLANE WAS GOOD TO 30 FUCKING FEET!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
THEN, TO TOP IT OFF, YOUR VIDEO ALSO PROVED THAT, YES, IN FACT YOU CAN GO OUT IN THE OPEN OCEAN AND TARGET A SPECIES OF FISH USING A SONAR....WITH NO STRUCTURE AT ALL....LITERALLY IN OPEN OCEAN! YOUR PAL IN YOUR VIDEO DID! WHAT A FUCKING MORON YOU ARE!
SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT LIKE THAT WAS FUCKING PRICELESS!


thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers) - Babble much?

YOU MADE A CLAIM THAT THE FURUNO DFF3D WAS SOOOO EXPENSIVE THAT NOBODY COULD AFFORD IT. - WRONG MUCH?

doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds. - Sea mounts. Oil rigs. Schools that have sounded after feeding on the surface. If you say you find them driving around in the summer heat you are a liar.

NOPE...NO LIAR HERE...I FIND PACKS OF TUNA ALL THE TIME DRIVING FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER...IN THE OPEN OCEAN...WITH NO STRUCTURE...FACT!
YOU ARENT CATCHING SHIT ON BAHAMA'S WALLS (IN THE SUMMER)...AREN'T FINDING SHIT UNLESS IT'S UNDER A PACK OF BIRDS!
THE ONLY 'SEA MOUNTS' ARE IN THE KEY'S AND THEY ARE FOR THE MOST PART ONLY FOR BLACKFIN TUNA, SKIPPIES AND MAHI...NOT YELLOWFIN! THEY DON'T CATCH YELLOWFIN THERE! BWAHAHAHAHAH!
YOU HAVE NEVER FISHED THE OIL RIGS AS YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.
IT'S WAY WAY OUT OF YOUR PRICE RANGE AS JUST THE GAS BILL WOULD KILL YOU!
WHAT A FUCKING FOOL YOU ARE COLESLAW!


only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures - Sea Witches. Ballyhoo. A few deep running plugs. The rest is money wasting noise.

THEN TELL US ALL EXACTLY WHY LITERALLY ALL OF THE PROFESSIONALS USE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DONT USE?

dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them). - 100 feet means nothing.

OBVIOUSLTY IT DOES! FURUNO HAS SPENT MULTI-MILLIONS DEVELOPING IT...TELL US ALL EXACTLY WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT?!?!
FURTHERMORE LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE SONAR MANUFACTURER HAS SPENT BILLIONS TO PERFECT SIDE-SCAN SONAR...FOR WHAT PURPOSE? (OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY COMPANY TO SUCEED SO FAR IS FURUNO)

"dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!" - I jigged, poppered and chunked many a tuna via the bottom machine, but that is coming to an end.

BWAHAHAHAH....UNTIL YOU USE WHAT HAS BEEN CURRENTLY INVENTED TO ACTUALLY FIND TUNA....YOU WILL BE IGNORANT!
THATS RIGHT COLESLAW...BE IGNORANT...IT LOOKS GOOD ON YOU!


think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!. - Liars? No, but if they've never fished our tuna grounds, I most certainly know more than they do.

WHAT A STUPID MOTHER FUCKER YOU ARE! THOSE ARTICLES WERE WRITTEN FROM PROFESSIONAL FISHERMEN THAT FISH RIGHT HERE ...ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BAHAMAS....EVERY SINGLE BIT OF WATER WE FISH!
EVER FISH THE 'CORNER'?....THOSE PEOPLE LIVE THERE! ONE OTHER THING...ARE YOU TRYING TO CLAIM THAT A DOWN-PLANE DOESN'T WORK EXACTLY THE SAME IN BAHAMIAN WATERS AS IT WOULD HERE OFF OF THE PORT OR SEBASTIAN INLET?
ARE YOU CLAIMING THAT A FURUNO DFF3D WONT WORK EXACTLY THE SAME HERE AS DOWN OFF THE MARATHON HUMP? WHAT A TRIPPLE FUCKING MORON YOU ARE...YOU FUCKING GOOGAN!

LIAR!

I am far better than you with less, how does that make you feel?

KEEP TELLING THAT TO YOURSELF THAT... OVER AND OVER ...TILL YOU BELIEVE YOUR OWN OBVIOUS BULLSHIT LIE.... YOU STUPID POS GOOGAN MATE!
WHEN YOU BUY A BOAT THAT CAN EVEN GO OFFSHORE..LET US ALL KNOW!
I ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUY ONE THAT WILL DO THE 'OTHERSIDE' (THATS WAY WAY WAY OUT OF YOUR WALLET). YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FOURTH CLASS MATE..AT BEST! WHATS FUNNY IS THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE A GOOD ONE...AS YOU AREN'T EVEN A COMPETENT ONE!

ONE OTHER THING...YOU AREN'T EVER DRIVING THE BOAT.

LMAO!


-------------------------
The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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SOOOOO....LET'S RE-CAP! :

1) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane.

2) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use a downrigger (ball).

3) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is.

4) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar.

5) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers)

6) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds.

7) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures.

8) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them).

9) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!

10) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!.


Well I'm sure thats not all of it but I will add more as my brain remembers it....


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FK going out of his way to tell us he is a fucking nutjob. Really putting some effort in today aren't you? Don't have a heart attack slamming your keyboard with those sausage fingers of yours.
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FK going out of his way to tell us he is a fucking nutjob. Really putting some effort in today aren't you? Don't have a heart attack slamming your keyboard with those sausage fingers of yours.


I think you made him snap! lol

The nutter is posting his kook fish bullshit on a vaccine thread??


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Rant and rave some more. Fucking lunatic.
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What does the FACT that you are a pretend fisherman that talks to dead people on the phone have to do with vaccines? Unhinged mofo.
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SOOOOO....LET'S RE-CAP! :

1) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use and has never deployed a down-plane.

2) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't use a downrigger (ball).

3) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know what the fuck a Z-Wing is.

4) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know ANYTHING about 3D Multibeam sonar.

5) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) thinks 3D multibeam sonar is not as affordable as literally ANY other Furuno Sounder setups (excluding 2k and 3k transducers)

6) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) doesn't know how to find tuna that aren't under a pack of birds.

7) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) only targets tuna that will hit his tiny limited 'one trick' box of crap homemade lures.

8) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont know how to get a bait down to 100 feet (so that deep hot water tuna AND wahoo can find them).

9) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) dont even turn on their sounder...AT ALL thus missing fully 90% of the fish they could be catching! Of that 10% that they CAN target they only maybe find .0001% to troll a SURFACE bait past!
I do know why: It's because they don't turn their sounder on....because the sounder they do have is a total POS!

10) Coleslaw the googan mate (and his 'two time winner' POS know nothing captain) think that the PROFESSIONALS at Saltwater Sportsman Magazine and Florida Sportsman Magazine are liars!.


Well I'm sure thats not all of it but I will add more as my brain remembers it....


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"There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. "
Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so

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Originally posted by: Lunchmeat "There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. " Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so
So why are the anti-vaccine folks so quick to jump on the monoclonal antibody wagon if vaccine safety is a concern for them?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Lunchmeat

"There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. "

Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so


So why are the anti-vaccine folks so quick to jump on the monoclonal antibody wagon if vaccine safety is a concern for them?


Why the fuck would you stick any of that shit into your body until you had no choice left.....

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: Lunchmeat "There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. " Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so
So why are the anti-vaccine folks so quick to jump on the monoclonal antibody wagon if vaccine safety is a concern for them?
I am not anti-vaccine. I don't want to take it, but am completely fine with everyone else taking it who wants to. I would take the monoclonal antibody if I got covid for health reasons. Same as I would take antibiotics for an infection from a cut, but wouldn't take antibiotics before I got an infection. Seems to make perfect sense to me. Progs cannot handle perfect sense. That is why you are puzzled.

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: Lunchmeat "There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. " Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so
So why are the anti-vaccine folks so quick to jump on the monoclonal antibody wagon if vaccine safety is a concern for them?
Jesus Scom, how many times does it have to be explained to you that most are not against the vaccine, they are against the mandate. Why do you continue on with this premise? Could it possibly be because that's the false-narrative that is continuously pushed?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Lunchmeat

"There are no long term studies on Regeneron so there is no way of know if there are long term effects or not. "

Can you please post a link to the long term studies that show the vaccine is safe and there are no long-term effects? I didn't think so


So why are the anti-vaccine folks so quick to jump on the monoclonal antibody wagon if vaccine safety is a concern for them?


Why do you care? Are you anti-therapeutic? We don't have a vaccine for HIV/AIDS. Do you advise people that have AIDS not to take the available therapeutics because they should wait for a vaccine that won't prevent them from getting it but will hopefully give them a milder case that they hopefully won't die from?

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The question is why the same people that say the vaccine is too risky and expirimental have trusted experimental (and very expensive) monoclonal antibody treatments right out of the box? Both are produced by publicly traded "big pharma" companies.

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Originally posted by: scombrid The question is why the same people that say the vaccine is too risky and expirimental have trusted experimental (and very expensive) monoclonal antibody treatments right out of the box? Both are produced by publicly traded "big pharma" companies.
I can only speak for myself. The vaccine carries with it risks, there is a greater than 98.5% survival rate (assuming you don't fall into a high risk category), natural immunities are not "allowed", and there is no objectionable data/proof to show a higher vaccinated population results in a decrease in spread. These are all facts, Scom, all can be backed up with facts/objectionable data. IT IS WRONG TO FORCE ANYONE TO INJECT ANYTHING INTO THEIR BODY AGAINST THEIR WILL, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH THEIR DECISION OR NOT. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS ZERO ACCOUNTABLITY IF SOMETHING DOES GO WRONG. So again, this is the real argument. You either support that notion or don't. The media has you thinking if you do support that notion, than you must be "anti-vax". Plus, if you understand the actual mechanism of this never before seen "vaccine," that alone would show you the difference between vaccine and monoclonal antibodies.

So again, staying in context with the argument against the mandate (not against the vaccine), where is the logic in forcing a vaccine that has proven to not be as effective as initially thought, for a virus with an over 98.5% survival rate, that also has proven treatments being developed?

Regarding the monoclonal antibody treatments, I don't know enough about them yet to do my own risk to benefit analysis on whether or not my personal situation would warrant taking it. Nor am I being forced to take it.

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Originally posted by: OBX The vaccine carries with it risks,
Deaths per millions doses?
there is a greater than 98.5% survival rate
So 1.5 deaths per 100 unvaccinated infections is how many per million.
(assuming you don't fall into a high risk category),
And a lot of the high risk categories are immunocompromised people that probably can't benefit from a vaccine since the vaccine requires a good immune system.
natural immunities are not "allowed",
There isn't a reliable "natural immunity test".
and there is no objectionable data/proof to show a higher vaccinated population results in a decrease in spread.
There is plenty of objective evidence that vaccinated populations had both lower case loads and muuuuuccccccchhhhhh lower case morbidity and mortality rates during the delta spread. Or were all of the hospitals faking the data and all of the county health departments lying?

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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX The vaccine carries with it risks,
Deaths per millions doses?
there is a greater than 98.5% survival rate
So 1.5 deaths per 100 unvaccinated infections is how many per million.
(assuming you don't fall into a high risk category),
And a lot of the high risk categories are immunocompromised people that probably can't benefit from a vaccine since the vaccine requires a good immune system.
natural immunities are not "allowed",
There isn't a reliable "natural immunity test".
and there is no objectionable data/proof to show a higher vaccinated population results in a decrease in spread.
There is plenty of objective evidence that vaccinated populations had both lower case loads and muuuuuccccccchhhhhh lower case morbidity and mortality rates during the delta spread. Or were all of the hospitals faking the data and all of the county health departments lying?
There isn't a test for immunity? Then how the hell do they know the vaccine works?
Love how you dance around the survival rate. Its really simple, if you don't want to risk it...then take the fucking vaccination. (and again the concept of choice is going above your head)

Scom, show me one State or Country where you see a decrease in infection rate and an increase of percent population of vaccination happening congruently. It doesn't take much time to look this information up. Percent population vaccinated, current infection rate. And again, I can show evidence that this correlation doesn't exist again if you'd like.

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There isn't a test for immunity? Then how the hell do they know the vaccine works?


You really have no clue as to how any of this works, do you? Geesh

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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX The vaccine carries with it risks,
Deaths per millions doses?
there is a greater than 98.5% survival rate
So 1.5 deaths per 100 unvaccinated infections is how many per million.
(assuming you don't fall into a high risk category),
And a lot of the high risk categories are immunocompromised people that probably can't benefit from a vaccine since the vaccine requires a good immune system.
natural immunities are not "allowed",
There isn't a reliable "natural immunity test".
and there is no objectionable data/proof to show a higher vaccinated population results in a decrease in spread.
There is plenty of objective evidence that vaccinated populations had both lower case loads and muuuuuccccccchhhhhh lower case morbidity and mortality rates during the delta spread. Or were all of the hospitals faking the data and all of the county health departments lying?
There isn't a test for immunity? Then how the hell do they know the vaccine works? Love how you dance around the survival rate. Its really simple, if you don't want to risk it...then take the fucking vaccination. (and again the concept of choice is going above your head) Scom, show me one State or Country where you see a decrease in infection rate and an increase of percent population of vaccination happening congruently. It doesn't take much time to look this information up. Percent population vaccinated, current infection rate. And again, I can show evidence that this correlation doesn't exist again if you'd like.
Dance around the survival rate? How many deaths per vaccine dose versus deaths per infection. No dancing. Direct comparison. Then there are plenty of direct comparisons between the two populations during the delta surge. How many preachers and AM radio talker need to die compared to the general population to drive the home?

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Fuck off shit for brains. It's obvious you didn't go to elementary school fat ass because you would have needed shit in you.
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Fuck off shit for brains. It's obvious you didn't go to elementary school fat ass because you would have needed shit in you.


http://www.wtxl.com/news/flori...a9bf-1f27f1ef78db.html

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Obie going with the old "I don't want to and you can't make me!" defense.


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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Obie going with the old "I don't want to and you can't make me!" defense.
I can see why your mind would simplify it to such a notion....whatever helps your conscious deal with the fact you are supporting tyranny.

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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Obie going with the old "I don't want to and you can't make me!" defense.


I can see why your mind would simplify it to such a notion....whatever helps your conscious deal with the fact you are supporting tyranny.


Just more of the same self-entitled selfishness.

Tyranny? Like its is cruel and oppressive to take measures to save people.



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Originally posted by: follydude
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: RustyTruck Obie going with the old "I don't want to and you can't make me!" defense.
I can see why your mind would simplify it to such a notion....whatever helps your conscious deal with the fact you are supporting tyranny.
Just more of the same self-entitled selfishness. Tyranny? Like its is cruel and oppressive to take measures to save people.
And once again.....if you can prove to me that vaccines are stopping the spread....if you can show me one example of a State/country with a population over 80% vaccinated has directly resulted in the decrease in the spread...than I will shut up. As of now, the only tangible evidence we have shows an opposite correlation. (that does not mean I am saying the vaccination is the cause)

Tyranny - cruel and oppressive government or rule. I can't think of a finer example then forcing someone to inject something into their body against their will or instituting repercussions if they don't.

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Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: follydude

Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Obie going with the old "I don't want to and you can't make me!" defense.


I can see why your mind would simplify it to such a notion....whatever helps your conscious deal with the fact you are supporting tyranny.


Just more of the same self-entitled selfishness.

Tyranny? Like its is cruel and oppressive to take measures to save people.


And once again.....if you can prove to me that vaccines are stopping the spread....if you can show me one example of a State/country with a population over 80% vaccinated has directly resulted in the decrease in the spread...than I will shut up. As of now, the only tangible evidence we have shows an opposite correlation. (that does not mean I am saying the vaccination is the cause)

Tyranny - cruel and oppressive government or rule. I can't think of a finer example then forcing someone to inject something into their body against their will or instituting repercussions if they don't.


It is neither cruel nor oppressive.


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It is wrong for blowBS to go in the public and endanger other Americans. What about the freedoms of those immunocompromised blowBS?
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But Qotard's feelings folly! It's just horrible and then their fake ass qotard friends get mad at them for getting vaxed! They can't win, the whole thing has to be fake or China's fault or some pile of shit!
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Opie doesn't get it that his rights are limited as soon as they infringe on other people's rights. He wants to not only take risks with his own health, he wants to expose others to that same risk.


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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Opie doesn't get it that his rights are limited as soon as they infringe on other people's rights. He wants to not only take risks with his own health, he wants to expose others to that same risk.
You are wrong about that. But, be that as it may, what right of others does being unvaccinated infringe upon?

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Opie doesn't get it that his rights are limited as soon as they infringe on other people's rights. He wants to not only take risks with his own health, he wants to expose others to that same risk.


You are wrong about that. But, be that as it may, what right of others does being unvaccinated infringe upon?


Well, only those in your household as long as you stay home.

But you don't get to claim a right that makes you a possible danger to others AND also claim you have a right of free movement which brings you in contact with those others.


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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: RustyTruck Opie doesn't get it that his rights are limited as soon as they infringe on other people's rights. He wants to not only take risks with his own health, he wants to expose others to that same risk.
You are wrong about that. But, be that as it may, what right of others does being unvaccinated infringe upon?
Well, only those in your household as long as you stay home. But you don't get to claim a right that makes you a possible danger to others AND also claim you have a right of free movement which brings you in contact with those others.
A "possible danger?" So if you are a "possible danger" to someone else, Gov't can do what it will with you? Rather broad, don't you think, seeing how everyone (and everything) presents a possible danger? Anyway, you didn't answer my question.

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Get injected and go play soccer, progs. Everything is fine.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Get injected and go play soccer, progs.

Everything is fine.


If you're excited about the cardiac risks associated with stimulating an immune response by vaccine, you'll just love what actually having COVID can do for you.

http://www.dicardiology.com/co...ation-college-athletes

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That abstract that he linked is by a guy that says that eating tomatoes will kill you. Reading the abstract he has 566 patients that he has been tracking for 8 years but there's no discussion about methodology or whether the markers he is following are true indicators of ACS risk. I guess we have to wait for the full paper to see his methods and controls. Gundry tests his patients every couple of months to find bad blood markers and then sells them supplements to fix the deficiency or excess. example.
Dr. Gundry sells supplements, including "Lectin Shield" for about $80 a month. According to his website, "This groundbreaking new formula was created to offset the discomforting effects of lectins (proteins commonly found in plants that make them harder to digest). Lectin Shield works to protect your body from a pile-up of lectins and to promote full-body comfort."
I am on his website now and his supplement line would embarrass Alex Jones and Mike Adams (natural news).

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Originally posted by: scombrid That abstract that he linked is by a guy that says that eating tomatoes will kill you. Reading the abstract he has 566 patients that he has been tracking for 8 years but there's no discussion about methodology or whether the markers he is following are true indicators of ACS risk. I guess we have to wait for the full paper to see his methods and controls. Gundry tests his patients every couple of months to find bad blood markers and then sells them supplements to fix the deficiency or excess. example.
Dr. Gundry sells supplements, including "Lectin Shield" for about $80 a month. According to his website, "This groundbreaking new formula was created to offset the discomforting effects of lectins (proteins commonly found in plants that make them harder to digest). Lectin Shield works to protect your body from a pile-up of lectins and to promote full-body comfort."
I am on his website now and his supplement line would embarrass Alex Jones and Mike Adams (natural news).
Eating tomatoes will kill you. I don't touch those nasty things. This guy knows his stuff.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: RustyTruck
Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: RustyTruck Opie doesn't get it that his rights are limited as soon as they infringe on other people's rights. He wants to not only take risks with his own health, he wants to expose others to that same risk.
You are wrong about that. But, be that as it may, what right of others does being unvaccinated infringe upon?
Well, only those in your household as long as you stay home. But you don't get to claim a right that makes you a possible danger to others AND also claim you have a right of free movement which brings you in contact with those others.
A "possible danger?" So if you are a "possible danger" to someone else, Gov't can do what it will with you? Rather broad, don't you think, seeing how everyone (and everything) presents a possible danger? Anyway, you didn't answer my question.
So all public health and safety rules are invalid?

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In November 2021, Gundry published a poster abstract in Circulation which claimed that mRNA vaccines against the COVID-19 virus "dramatically increase" inflammation and that this was associated with heart disease.[16] Commentators in British media cited the abstract as evidence of the mRNA vaccines being unsafe.[16] The abstract was not peer-reviewed before publication and the American Heart Association issued an "Expression of concern" warning that the abstract may not be reliable and that were "no statistical analyses for significance provided".[17] The Reuters Fact Check team concluded that it did "not provide reliable evidence that mRNA vaccines increase risk of heart disease".[16] Full Fact noted that the claims in the abstract relied on results from a test for which there was little evidence that it could accurately predict the risk of heart attacks.


And he definitely has it in for lectins.



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What is with these surgeons that retire from surgery (Dr. Oz for example) and turn crank/crackpot/snakeoil salesman?

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Originally posted by: scombrid

What is with these surgeons that retire from surgery (Dr. Oz for example) and turn crank/crackpot/snakeoil salesman?


... and *scary thought* a US Senator.
 12/03/2021 06:52 AM
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Make your own decision.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Make your own decision.


Why would I make a decision based on information from a hack site? lol

Brownstone Institute for Social and Economic Research is a nonprofit organization whose "vision is of a society that places the highest value on the voluntary interaction of individuals and groups while minimizing the use of violence and force even including that which is exercised by public authority. This vision is that of the Enlightenment that elevated learning, science, progress, and universal rights to the forefront of public life, and is newly threatened by ideologies and systems that would take the world back before the triumph of the ideal of freedom. The motive force of the Brownstone Institute is the global crisis created by policy responses to the Covid-19 pandemic of 2020. That trauma revealed a fundamental misunderstanding alive in all countries around the world today, a willingness on the part of the public and officials to forego freedom and fundamental human rights in the name of a public health crisis. The consequences were devastating and will live in infamy."



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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: tpapablo Make your own decision.
Why would I make a decision based on information from a hack site? lol Brownstone Institute for Social and Economic Research is a nonprofit organization whose "vision is of a society that places the highest value on the voluntary interaction of individuals and groups while minimizing the use of violence and force even including that which is exercised by public authority. This vision is that of the Enlightenment that elevated learning, science, progress, and universal rights to the forefront of public life, and is newly threatened by ideologies and systems that would take the world back before the triumph of the ideal of freedom. The motive force of the Brownstone Institute is the global crisis created by policy responses to the Covid-19 pandemic of 2020. That trauma revealed a fundamental misunderstanding alive in all countries around the world today, a willingness on the part of the public and officials to forego freedom and fundamental human rights in the name of a public health crisis. The consequences were devastating and will live in infamy."
Don't worry, Cole. Your reputation is intact. Doubt anyone here would expect you to make a rational, well thought out decision on anything. This post wasn't meant for you or your fellow progs. It was meant only for those with reasoning ability.

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Yes, making decisions based on what you want to hear and see is the smart thing to do. lol

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Originally posted by: Cole Yes, making decisions based on what you want to hear and see is the smart thing to do. lol
Still better than your method: "I have to do what? Ok then."

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I looked at the risk assessment for me and made my own decision. A free and safe vaccine or sickness and the possibility of a monster hospital bill? It was a very simple choice.

I thought I had it a couple of week ago and was headed for the gene therapy if I did. I still trust science and doctors. All genetically modified things aren't evil and I have no problem with embryo cells being used to find cures.

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Originally posted by: Cole

I looked at the risk assessment for me and made my own decision.


Yeah...that was BEFORE you were about to be MANDATED!

Then you would have been making NO CHOICE.

Take the JAB or lose your job!

MORON!

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 12/04/2021 06:02 AM
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I notice that none of you ever mention the, or a weekly Covid test.

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Originally posted by: Cole

I notice that none of you ever mention the, or a weekly Covid test.


All your weekly covid test will show is that someone got covid and spread it!

It's much MORE effective to treat only those that get covid after the fact...and cure them.

It isn't necessary to literally treat EVERYONE up front with something that will not work after ONE variant...then have to get a new different vaccine for every new variant!

Taking the JAB every other month is BULLSHIT!

Furthermore you wont ever reach 'herd immunity' as the variants will...and have...killed that notion!

On top of that you will always have a large percentage of a population that will FUCK NO...never take you piss ass jab!

MORON!

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Edited: 12/04/2021 at 07:06 AM by Fish Killer
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer It's much MORE effective to treat only those that get covid after the fact...and cure them.
Guess what a weekly test facilitates? Early detection and treatment. So the test makes the treatment start earlier and also alerts those that you may have exposed that they need to get tested and seek treatment if necessary before symptoms get bad. Since the incubation period is 3+ days a weekly test allows early detection for contact tracing so there is earlier isolation, less spread, and more effective treatment applied early in the infection cycle.

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: Fish Killer




It's much MORE effective to treat only those that get covid after the fact...and cure them.





Guess what a weekly test facilitates? Early detection and treatment. So the test makes the treatment start earlier and also alerts those that you may have exposed that they need to get tested and seek treatment if necessary before symptoms get bad. Since the incubation period is 3+ days a weekly test allows early detection for contact tracing so there is earlier isolation, less spread, and more effective treatment applied early in the infection cycle.


What percentage of those tests are incorrect?

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Surgeons often tend to be out there to begin with.


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