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Topic Title: Supreme Court Uproots the Administrative State Topic Summary: Video that explains what this really means for how the EPA lost all power to make new rules Created On: 07/04/2022 02:09 PM |
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- Cole | - 07/05/2022 05:19 AM |
- Cole | - 07/05/2022 05:20 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 07/05/2022 05:34 AM |
- surfrc | - 07/05/2022 05:40 AM |
- surfrc | - 07/05/2022 05:21 AM |
- Cole | - 07/05/2022 05:41 AM |
- surfrc | - 07/05/2022 05:52 AM |
- surfsail | - 07/05/2022 06:24 AM |
- surfrc | - 07/05/2022 06:28 AM |
- RustyTruck | - 07/05/2022 06:36 AM |
- tom | - 07/05/2022 06:44 AM |
- 3rdworldlover | - 07/06/2022 10:58 AM |
- nukeh2o | - 07/06/2022 11:43 AM |
- tpapablo | - 07/05/2022 07:14 AM |
- RustyTruck | - 07/05/2022 07:27 AM |
- tpapablo | - 07/05/2022 07:39 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 07/05/2022 08:20 AM |
- Cole | - 07/05/2022 12:42 PM |
- Fish Killer | - 07/06/2022 05:59 AM |
- Cole | - 07/06/2022 06:07 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 07/06/2022 06:14 AM |
- Fish Killer | - 07/05/2022 07:11 AM |
- RustyTruck | - 07/05/2022 08:00 AM |
- tpapablo | - 07/05/2022 08:05 AM |
- RustyTruck | - 07/05/2022 08:29 AM |
- tpapablo | - 07/05/2022 08:51 AM |
- RustyTruck | - 07/05/2022 09:25 AM |
- surfsail | - 07/05/2022 06:22 PM |
- surfrc | - 07/05/2022 06:42 PM |
- surfsail | - 07/06/2022 05:15 AM |
- Cole | - 07/06/2022 05:50 AM |
- Pagerow | - 07/05/2022 11:40 AM |
- dingpatch | - 07/05/2022 12:13 PM |
- tpapablo | - 07/05/2022 12:50 PM |
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07/04/2022 02:09 PM
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07/05/2022 04:38 AM
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The Supremes have, to a point, been the "easy way out" for a lot of issues.
If Everybody has "rights" that are not clearly defined in the Constitution of the United States, then it is up to the Legislature to do their fooking jobs and pass appropriate laws to "codify" everybody's petty wants-and-needs. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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07/05/2022 05:17 AM
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Yup, and also make many existing rules that did not go through the proper process such as the Obama clean power initiative illegitimate. Our founding fathers intended new laws/rules to go through congress and the president before becoming law, and now they do.
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07/05/2022 05:19 AM
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Splaining away extreme Right bullshit is more fitting.
Take a step back and look at your sources for once. You rant and rave about the media, then base you life on sites like epoch times. Soory dude, but that's fucking hilarious!! ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/05/2022 05:20 AM
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What about these?
http://www.federalregister.gov...ders/donald-trump/2020 ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/05/2022 05:34 AM
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What about these? http://www.federalregister.gov...ders/donald-trump/2020 What about these? http://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021 ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 07/05/2022 at 05:36 AM by Fish Killer |
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07/05/2022 05:40 AM
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I'm not sure if this will affect executive orders. This is to stop federal agencies such as the EPA from creating new rules.
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07/05/2022 05:21 AM
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Splaining away extreme Right bullshit is more fitting. Take a step back and look at your sources for once. You rant and rave about the media, then base you life on sites like epoch times. Soory dude, but that's fucking hilarious!! Prove that this is not true. |
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07/05/2022 05:41 AM
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1) Carbon can't be eradicated from pollution by 2050 because humans are made of carbon.
That's ridiculous. lol 2) Biden hasn't put anything into law. The Clean Power rule was proposed in 2014, and was never made law. The SCOTUS five decision wasn't against Biden. 3) The SCOTUS 5 reversed the 2007 SCOTUS decision to give the EPA the power to control coal plant emissions. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/10-174.ZS.html ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/05/2022 05:52 AM
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1) Carbon can't be eradicated from pollution by 2050 because humans are made of carbon. That's ridiculous. lol He does have a point depending how you define zero carbon, we all breath out and fart greenhouse gas. lol 2) Biden hasn't put anything into law. The Clean Power rule was proposed in 2014, and was never made law. The SCOTUS five decision wasn't against Biden. No argument here. SCOTUS decision does stop this proposed rule from hanging over the heads of the power companies. 3) The SCOTUS 5 reversed the 2007 SCOTUS decision to give the EPA the power to control coal plant emissions. YUP http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/10-174.ZS.html |
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07/05/2022 06:24 AM
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The existence and importance having a science based 'administrative state', separate from the politically motivated 'legislative state' is very important,,
Nothing is worse than having, bought & paid for, politicians make our 'laws', that are typically not in any way representative of the overall public's values - but getting them into regulations based on fact based science and 'statistics' are total BS.. rc, thought that especially you would be aware of the of consequences of unbridled air pollution.. Wouldn't want these fuckers getting into the technical details of building codes etc.. Zoning etc is one thing, but... We gotta get the 'privatize the profits and socialize the costs' concept of capitalism away from our 'bought & paid for' politicians.. High time to outlaw lobbyists, and permanently ban politicians from politics who are caught fraternizing with them.. Tuesday's here.. gotta get back to the grind..
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07/05/2022 06:28 AM
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The clean air act and the clean air act amendments were handled properly and are very stringent on criteria and HAP pollutants. CO2 is not defined as a pollutant, methane is.
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07/05/2022 06:36 AM
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I don't think christians, such as those who have taken control of the court and run the GOP, take stewardship of the environment seriously because they believe in magic; They think their imaginary friend can reset the whole thing whenever.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/05/2022 06:44 AM
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this is also why, like Fox News, NSR is entertainment only...
------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway |
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07/06/2022 10:58 AM
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this is also why, like Fox News, NSR is entertainment only... Fact worth remembering |
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07/06/2022 11:43 AM
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"I am a regular Oinkzilla."
a glimmer of self recognition in lord napoleon of mims? .....naahhhhh and yes: you're dogs ARE very nice....they keep trying to follow us home. They will fetch a good price at the haitian market ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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07/05/2022 07:14 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/05/2022 07:27 AM
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I don't think christians, such as those who have taken control of the court and run the GOP, take stewardship of the environment seriously because they believe in magic; They think their imaginary friend can reset the whole thing whenever. Exactly. And he can. Just ask the dinosaurs and Noah. I am expecting another reset anytime now. He intends to smite all progs and other weirdos. The world will be better overnight. Or the world may just become an uninhabitable hell scape where people will long for the sweet release of death. Humans are the virus, and the Earth is starting to run a fever. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/05/2022 07:39 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q Edited: 07/05/2022 at 08:02 AM by tpapablo |
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07/05/2022 08:20 AM
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Or the world may just become an uninhabitable hell scape where people will long for the sweet release of death. Humans are the virus, and the Earth is starting to run a fever. Genesis 1:28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth." ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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07/05/2022 12:42 PM
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Or the world may just become an uninhabitable hell scape where people will long for the sweet release of death. Humans are the virus, and the Earth is starting to run a fever. Genesis 1:28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth." Do you want me to find some more OT quotes? ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/06/2022 05:59 AM
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Or the world may just become an uninhabitable hell scape where people will long for the sweet release of death. Humans are the virus, and the Earth is starting to run a fever. Genesis 1:28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth." Do you want me to find some more OT quotes? What a total freak stupid idiot you are. Christ Came to Fulfill the Law 17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. http://www.olivetree.com/blog/...ament_law_still_apply/ ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 07/06/2022 at 06:12 AM by Fish Killer |
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07/06/2022 06:07 AM
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Bang your dad to get pregnant?
Talking snakes Pillars of salt It a laughable 6,000 year old fairy tail. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/06/2022 06:14 AM
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Bang your dad to get pregnant? Talking snakes Pillars of salt It a laughable 6,000 year old fairy tail. Idiot: http://www.olivetree.com/blog/...ment_law_still_apply/ ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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07/05/2022 07:11 AM
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What about these? http://www.federalregister.gov...ders/donald-trump/2020 What about these? http://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/joe-biden/2021 ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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07/05/2022 08:00 AM
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Pabs, by ignoring the human impact on the environment, we are collectively committing suicide.
True you may live out your days as a yeoman farmer in Mims, but you are making the decision on behalf of your descendants to make their lives very unpleasant. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/05/2022 08:05 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/05/2022 08:29 AM
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Pabs, by ignoring the human impact on the environment, we are collectively committing suicide. True you may live out your days as a yeoman farmer in Mims, but you are making the decision on behalf of your descendants to make their lives very unpleasant. Perfect. I am working to save humanity by destroying it. I might just have to commission a statute of myself on my farm so that roaches and whatever else survives will be able to assemble there to thank me. As progs and the Taliban will be vanquished, there will be no one around to tear it down. Whatever survives will curse you and everyone else who chose degenerate consumption over conservation of a livable planet. The Taliban won't care because they have the same invisible friend as the GOP and fake court. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". Edited: 07/05/2022 at 08:29 AM by RustyTruck |
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07/05/2022 08:51 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/05/2022 09:25 AM
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My dogs won't. They are a pretty loyal bunch. Likely correct. Even your boy had Blondie. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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07/05/2022 06:22 PM
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Scientific Fact CO2 is in reality a 'pollutant', 'defined'. or not, & esp if not done by 'true scientists' not bought & paid for by the fossil fuel industry.. , and by politicians - & esp when interpreted by scrotus type ilk..
Know it was your business specialty monitoring this type of stuff, but just saying... Know that regulating it is a mess, and not perfect by any means, but 'until better can be done, worse will prevail'.. Way Better than 'nothing', or 'free for all'..... I'm inept - Can't do the link thing properly.. kinds works.. way way too many similar links to put...
">Texthttps://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/may/12/suburban-virginia-republican-coalition/yes-carbon-dioxide-pollutant/
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07/05/2022 06:42 PM
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Does EPA consider CO2 a pollutant?
In one of the most important decisions in environmental law, the US Supreme Court has ruled that carbon dioxide (CO2) is a pollutant and that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has the right to regulate CO2 emissions from new cars. Apr 3, 2007 Guess I was wrong, things change. US Supreme Court decides CO2 is a pollutant Edited: 07/05/2022 at 07:09 PM by surfrc |
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07/06/2022 05:15 AM
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Like I said the 'definition' of CO2 as a 'pollutant', and it's legal treatment is a matter of political definition, but that does not change the true science or reality of it's global effects on our climate, and related geopolitical 'side effects'..
Yep, we exhale CO2 with every breath, but overall it accounts for 80% of total greenhouse gas emissions; 20% = methane etc etc.. and it's not coming from living things exhaling.. Power plants, cars etc are the true culprits. 'Defining' something is just a play of words and does not change it's effects - BUT the choice no regulate, or not, does.. Just like the effects of tobacco use were denied by big tobacco forever - until.. The culprits have known about the side effects of CO2 emissions for more than decades but it is not in their financial to fess up - until.... This is old news; big oil, gas & it's puppets, minions, including political bodies like scrotus et al, has been twisting the truth to their benefit, contrary to true science The list of links below do not contain any liberal left wing sites; to the contrary... ***Environmental Protection Agency is a 2007 United States Supreme Court ruling that found that carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases are air pollutants under the Clean Air Act and can be regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). https://www.nrdc.org/media/2007/070402 ***How Carbon Dioxide Became a 'Pollutant' - WSJ https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124001537515830975 ***The Worst Climate Pollution Is Carbon; Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-worst-climate-pollution-is-carbon-dioxide/ ***Overview of Greenhouse Gases | US EPA https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases ***The 5 greatest challenges to fighting climate change | MIT Sloan https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/5-greatest-challenges-to-fighting-climate-change
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07/06/2022 05:50 AM
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Does EPA consider CO2 a pollutant? In one of the most important decisions in environmental law, the US Supreme Court has ruled that carbon dioxide (CO2) is a pollutant and that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has the right to regulate CO2 emissions from new cars. Apr 3, 2007 Guess I was wrong, things change. US Supreme Court decides CO2 is a pollutant The SCOTUS also ruled that the EPA had the power to regulate coal CO2 emissions. The SCOTUS 5 reversed that decision. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/05/2022 11:40 AM
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Perfect. I am working to save humanity by destroying it. I might just have to commission a statute of myself on my farm so that roaches and whatever else survives will be able to assemble there to thank me. The only thing you're destroying is the English language... ------------------------- GOP: Gaslight Obstruct Project |
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07/05/2022 12:13 PM
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Remember to cover your eyes and turn your back to the expected detonation site. Might help.
But, if you are too close, the shock wave and sound will turn your insides to pudding. Oh, did you know that mice and rats can't burp or vomit. You can DYI a 50/50 mix of baking soda and a Jiffy corn bread mix that has honey in it, all dry. The mice and/or rats eat it and they more-or-less blow their insides up. ------------------------- Dora Hates You Edited: 07/05/2022 at 12:20 PM by dingpatch |
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07/05/2022 12:50 PM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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