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Topic Title: How it all began Topic Summary: Created On: 12/08/2024 11:07 AM |
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You wanna hear a little story of how it all began? Once upon a time, there was a man named Ronald Reagan. He was known as the "Great Communicator" because he was good at spinning words.
"He was a failing actor who decided to run for president. His campaign slogan in 1980 was "Let's Make America Great Again" and he won. Yeah, it was Reagan first. Before Reagan was elected, the very wealthy paid 70% in taxes. He was so good at spinning words that he convinced the poor people of America that the rich needed to pay less in taxes. So he lowered it to 28%. He said this would create more jobs and opportunities for the poor - "Trickle Down." Upon seeing his blunder in loss of tax revenues, in 1984, he decided to tax social security to make up some of the lost tax revenue. He wanted to end welfare and Medicare, saying, "Let's send those bums back to work (meaning blacks)." Americans (many) were like, hell yeah, I'm cool with that!!! But, "Reaganomics" never worked. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work today. Oh, I forgot to mention how much he hated Unions and dismantled many of them. His biggest achievement was separating the races and convincing poor people that the rich needed more. End of story?" ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. Edited: 12/09/2024 at 02:43 AM by jdbman |
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He cut, then raised more taxes than all before him.
Remember when he tossed the mentally ill into the streets? ------------------------- I was right. |
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Everybody should pay the same tax rate with no 'deductions', other than for children. Period.
Perhaps just a simple 'head tax'? Ya, ya, I know and I get it but, the current IRS setup is smeared thick with Bull Shit. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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Ronny Raised taxes 26 times. I do think The Rapist party has finally slipped away from the magical unicorn memories they have of Reagan. They now have their false prophet and savior in the Orange Lard.
Reagan sold the country Cadillacs, this Carny is selling Yugo's and the Rapist party is lapping up like Bobbert on date to children theater. ------------------------- It was fun while it lasted. |
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Why should income from actual work be taxed higher than passive income gained from investments?
The end point in all this is a neo-feudal society, which should set the stage for the inevitable revolutionary phase to follow. Or the robots will kill us all. One or the other I expect. ------------------------- "Are you a Communist?" "No I am an anti-fascist." "For a long time?" "Since I have understood fascism." -Protagonist Robert Jordan, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" (Hemmingway) |
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Why should income from actual work be taxed higher than passive income gained from investments?
Exactly. Not to mention poll taxes never work. The bum in the street pays the same as the man with the gold toilet. Historically speaking, the people don't really care for that too much. ------------------------- I was right. |
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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Carter was pretty good. Yes, he had issues with what the Republicans left him, but the rest was pretty sound. And let's not forget that Reagan handed Bush I a recession.
------------------------- I was right. |
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The Carter years were good for Union workers. Had they known what would come of it, they would have burned Reagan in effigy.
------------------------- "Are you a Communist?" "No I am an anti-fascist." "For a long time?" "Since I have understood fascism." -Protagonist Robert Jordan, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" (Hemmingway) |
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I repeat, progs love failure. What stronger proof do you need beyond the previous two posts. Next thing you know they will be claiming that Dementia Joe should be on Mt. Rushmore.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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A forty year decline in the middle class can be traced right to Reagan's presidency. There's no greater failure in the history of the United States, and it will ultimately be it's undoing.
------------------------- "Are you a Communist?" "No I am an anti-fascist." "For a long time?" "Since I have understood fascism." -Protagonist Robert Jordan, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" (Hemmingway) |
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And still, they worship at the alter of trickle dumb economics.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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Before Reagan was elected, the very wealthy paid 70% in taxes. I don't see how any government can justify a tax rate that high. |
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Before Reagan was elected, the very wealthy paid 70% in taxes. I don't see how any government can justify a tax rate that high. It's a marginal rate. ------------------------- "Are you a Communist?" "No I am an anti-fascist." "For a long time?" "Since I have understood fascism." -Protagonist Robert Jordan, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" (Hemmingway) |
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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"In 1980 Ronald Reagan was elected and promised to cut the top marginal tax rate. This he did, and the top marginal tax rate was lowered over his 8 years in office from 73% to 28% on incomes over just $29,750 - the lowest this rate had been since 1925."
Revision by MAGA will not stand. ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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The delusions of progs will stand though.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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Before Reagan was elected, the very wealthy paid 70% in taxes. I don't see how any government can justify a tax rate that high. What's the tax rate in the happiest countries in the world? ------------------------- I was right. |
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You just can't convince Americans that a $2000 increase in taxes for a national health system is better than $5000 spent on private insurance that is designed to prevent them from using it.
------------------------- "Are you a Communist?" "No I am an anti-fascist." "For a long time?" "Since I have understood fascism." -Protagonist Robert Jordan, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" (Hemmingway) |
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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You just can't convince Americans that a $2000 increase in taxes for a national health system is better than $5000 spent on private insurance that is designed to prevent them from using it. No you can't. We all remember the Clown Care promises, none of which turned out to be true. Well, you could convince progs but I don't consider them Americans. I have it and it works well. Under Trump the price went through the roof and they did nothing to fix it, even though they had total control. Biden dropped the cost $8,000 a year. That will end under Trump. Concepts of a plan don't work. There will be no replacement. ------------------------- I was right. |
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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You just can't convince Americans that a $2000 increase in taxes for a national health system is better than $5000 spent on private insurance that is designed to prevent them from using it. No you can't. We all remember the Clown Care promises, none of which turned out to be true. Well, you could convince progs but I don't consider them Americans. I have it and it works well. Under Trump the price went through the roof and they did nothing to fix it, even though they had total control. Biden dropped the cost $8,000 a year. That will end under Trump. Concepts of a plan don't work. There will be no replacement. You are in for a hard 4 years, Hoaxmeister. You are going to go broke in the coming depression. You are going to lose your health care. Certainly you will have your reproductive rights taken away (get that vasectomy yet?). You are going to die from pollution (and having no health care). If somehow you survive the pollution, the nuclear war will get you. And Hitler will be running the show. Best to reconcile yourself to that. Maybe you can take solace in the fact that the rest of us will be living it up. Food will still be expensive. Home insurance costs will continue to rise. The roads will become more snarled with traffic. The environment will suffer. Health insurance costs will explode. Wars will continue to happen. Ukraine will fall to Russia. The cost of goods will rise. Money to red states will vanish when Trump repeals the Inflation Reduction Act. And all I will say is, "Thank you maga." ------------------------- I was right. |
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Tpap is not here to accept facts provided with numbers and dates. He's here to broadcast early and often. Invoking the specter of the old gipper himself, even with the facts is still too much for Tpap to accept so he just lies his way past it. Nothing personal, its just that he has to promote this agenda, beat the same drum about progs, the stupid refrains of proslaves, hoaxes and various other excretions. Its something to do for him.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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MAGA don't math. Numbers don't resonate. ------------------------- So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off. |
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Progs do hoax. This is obviously one of them.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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You have always imagined that you are not in the same petri dish, Tpap. You might escape some of the shit storm, but you will never outrun it all.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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